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Dodgy is as dodgy does
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" The pharmaceutical industry makes over one trillion dollars from
selling drugs for ongoing diseases.


These drugs may relieve symptoms, but they do not cure. We have to
realize that the mission of this industry is to make money from
ongoing diseases. The cure or eradication of a disease leads to the
collapse of a multi-billion dollar market of pharmaceuticals.

I encourage you to read the key points about the nature of the
pharmaceutical business and to think about each of them.



Now you will understand why we are bombarded with advertising
campaigns by pharmaceutical companies wanting to make us believe that
they are,

“Searching for Cures”

“Striving for the Eradication of Diseases”

“Increasing Life Expectancy”,

...and other false promises.



With these deceptive statements, the pharmaceutical industry has for
decades been able to disguise the true nature of its business -
maximum profit from ongoing diseases.


The Pharmaceutical "Business with Disease" Causes More Deaths Than All
Wars of Mankind Combined

As a direct consequence of the pharmaceutical business, more people
have died from preventable disease than in all wars of mankind
combined. "


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The Globalization of Poverty and the New World Order
by Michel Chossudovsky
http://tinyurl.com/as5ynd3

U.S. Wealth-Concentration: Wealthiest Tenth (10%) of Americans Own 75%
of America
http://tinyurl.com/nzr4mw3

Modern schooling and the war against competition
http://tinyurl.com/o4bv7e6
"In many respects we don’t have a free market economy. We have
cartels, which are the escape from free market, not the natural
progression of free market. They wage war against competition, not by
the traditional means of attracting consumer confidence, but by taking
the reigns of power in government itself and wielding it against its
adversaries. The Rockefeller dynasty represents the epitome of
cartels. Rockefeller’s partnership with Germany’s pharmaceutical giant
I. G. Farben in 1929 formed the most powerful cartel in history."



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2017-08-06 19:38:06 UTC
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" The pharmaceutical industry makes over one trillion dollars from
selling drugs for ongoing diseases.
That's a fact but the below is called an baseless opinion not based in
evidence or in false citations.

Pity after all these years you can't tell the difference between the three
categories.

Fact supported by evidence.
Opinions of what facts means weighted by experience and strength of
evidence.
Opinions based on unsupported evidence, with little or no experience in the
field, or baseless or idle speculations.
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
These drugs may relieve symptoms, but they do not cure.
That is not based on evidence at all.


Still,working on the foot fungus that you can't seem to cure?
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John Cleese on Stupidity

Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:

Lu
2017-08-07 02:03:25 UTC
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https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industrybigpharma06.htm
" The pharmaceutical industry makes over one trillion dollars from
selling drugs for ongoing diseases.
That's a fact but the below is called an baseless opinion not based in
evidence or in false citations.
Pity after all these years you can't tell the difference between the three
categories.
Fact supported by evidence.
Opinions of what facts means weighted by experience and strength of
evidence.
Opinions based on unsupported evidence, with little or no experience in the
field, or baseless or idle speculations.
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
These drugs may relieve symptoms, but they do not cure.
That is not based on evidence at all.
Still,working on the foot fungus that you can't seem to cure?
Gee, I heard that the drug companiesmake a cure for foot fungus?
Bob Officer
2017-08-07 19:02:38 UTC
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https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industrybigpharma06.htm
" The pharmaceutical industry makes over one trillion dollars from
selling drugs for ongoing diseases.
That's a fact but the below is called an baseless opinion not based in
evidence or in false citations.
Pity after all these years you can't tell the difference between the three
categories.
Fact supported by evidence.
Opinions of what facts means weighted by experience and strength of
evidence.
Opinions based on unsupported evidence, with little or no experience in the
field, or baseless or idle speculations.
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
These drugs may relieve symptoms, but they do not cure.
That is not based on evidence at all.
Still,working on the foot fungus that you can't seem to cure?
Gee, I heard that the drug companiesmake a cure for foot fungus?
Several it appears, since there are several different types of fungus,
there are several different treatments.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Dodgy is as dodgy does
2017-08-08 08:16:19 UTC
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Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industrybigpharma06.htm
" The pharmaceutical industry makes over one trillion dollars from
selling drugs for ongoing diseases.
That's a fact but the below is called an baseless opinion not based in
evidence or in false citations.
Pity after all these years you can't tell the difference between the three
categories.
Fact supported by evidence.
Opinions of what facts means weighted by experience and strength of
evidence.
Opinions based on unsupported evidence, with little or no experience in the
field, or baseless or idle speculations.
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
These drugs may relieve symptoms, but they do not cure.
That is not based on evidence at all.
Still,working on the foot fungus that you can't seem to cure?
Gee, I heard that the drug companiesmake a cure for foot fungus?
Several it appears, since there are several different types of fungus,
there are several different treatments.
Suppressed symptoms is not a cure.
Pharmaceutical drugs drive the disease further into the body but will
appear in another form in due course.


--
Dodgy Dealings

10 Counterinsurgency And 'Psy-Ops' Tactics Companies Use Against
Protesters
http://tinyurl.com/gskmtgx

This US Government Is The Most Corrupt In History
http://www.globalresearch.ca/this-us-government-is-the-most-corrupt-in-history/5525810

CDC EXPOSED
https://anticorruptionsociety.com/center-for-disease-control-exposed/

Big Pharma: social impact index reveals a lack of transparency
http://tinyurl.com/qe6r4aa


Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2282014

"Global pharmaceutical companies paid tax of just $85 million in
Australia on revenues of more than $8 billion.
http://tinyurl.com/qj8lmmb


The Globalization of Poverty and the New World Order
by Michel Chossudovsky
http://tinyurl.com/as5ynd3

U.S. Wealth-Concentration: Wealthiest Tenth (10%) of Americans Own 75%
of America
http://tinyurl.com/nzr4mw3

Modern schooling and the war against competition
http://tinyurl.com/o4bv7e6
"In many respects we don’t have a free market economy. We have
cartels, which are the escape from free market, not the natural
progression of free market. They wage war against competition, not by
the traditional means of attracting consumer confidence, but by taking
the reigns of power in government itself and wielding it against its
adversaries. The Rockefeller dynasty represents the epitome of
cartels. Rockefeller’s partnership with Germany’s pharmaceutical giant
I. G. Farben in 1929 formed the most powerful cartel in history."






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Its all happening
2017-08-08 08:21:49 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industrybigpharma06.htm
" The pharmaceutical industry makes over one trillion dollars from
selling drugs for ongoing diseases.
That's a fact but the below is called an baseless opinion not based in
evidence or in false citations.
Pity after all these years you can't tell the difference between the three
categories.
Fact supported by evidence.
Opinions of what facts means weighted by experience and strength of
evidence.
Opinions based on unsupported evidence, with little or no experience in the
field, or baseless or idle speculations.
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
These drugs may relieve symptoms, but they do not cure.
That is not based on evidence at all.
Still,working on the foot fungus that you can't seem to cure?
Gee, I heard that the drug companiesmake a cure for foot fungus?
Several it appears, since there are several different types of fungus,
there are several different treatments.
I agree with Dodgy.

Killing the fungus isn't a real cure.
Symptoms are nature's warning signs that something is wrong - the
fungus is a symptom. Merely killing "the messenger" does not create
true health.

I would use pharmaceutical drugs for a life-saving situation - this is
not to say there are no alternative cures, which there may be -
however, for life-saving situations whatever works is the main
priority.
However, foot fungus is not a life or death situation and therefore I
would look for alternatives.

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Its all happening - right here, right now !!

Most Medical Information on Wikipedia is False
http://www.omsj.org/category/issues/wikipedia
http://tinyurl.com/n9rrj3l


"The Council of Foreign Relations Mistakenly Proves the Largest
Outbreaks of Infectious Diseases Are Within the Most Highly Vaccinated
Populations." http://tinyurl.com/kcu5e5g


Newer and more pharmaceutical drugs at higher prices (of course!!)
brought to you by big pharma

More and more spin, hype, lies and propaganda to get wars going and
clamp down on people's freedoms


A "barrier of entry" protects the racket. In the unholy union between
the FDA and the drug companies, today it takes hundreds of millions of
dollars of "testing" to approve any substance for medical use. As the
long arm of the FDA seeks to regulate herbs and vitamins (and who
knows what else is on their wish list?) the issue of health is
increasingly one that only large corporations can play. The way the
FDA paved that road was a reinterpretation of its mission in the
1960s. Originally, they were charged with food and drug safety. Then
they appended the word "effective" to their charge, which the drug
companies initially fought, but subsequently perverted into a great
way of protecting the racket. All those alternative cancer treatments
are "safe" because they are harmless, unlike the mainstream
treatments, which are anything but "safe."
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#system



The final blow to homeopathy, however, was dealt by diversifying
robber barons, John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie in particular.
Rockefeller and Carnegie amassed enormous fortunes during the Gilded
Age, through ingenuity and ruthlessness. As they came to dominate
their respective industries, they branched out and became
“philanthropists.” Their “philanthropy” was more directed toward
social engineering than humanitarian activity. Rockefeller and
Carnegie exercised “institutional control” over American medicine.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#developing

The AMA worked hand-in-hand with Flexner, and government was soon a
player. State boards refused to license doctors that did not come
from AMA-approved schools. That interlocking institutional control
spelled the death knell for homeopathy. In 1900, there were 22
homeopathic colleges. In 1918, there were only seven. Homeopathic
colleges were not the only casualties of the institutional control
that Rockefeller, Carnegie, the AMA, licensing boards, and drug
companies would exercise over medicine. That process also closed most
medical schools for women and blacks. The AMA successfully kept
blacks out of medicine until the 1960s, with an effort led by Morris
Fishbein.[133] The alleged strategy was bringing science and
education to medicine, but it was also obviously a power play to
consolidate wealth and power. Ironically, Rockefeller would not take
the drugs that his empire promoted. His personal physician was a
homeopath, and John D. lived to be nearly 100 years old.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#developing

















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2017-08-09 23:30:35 UTC
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https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industrybigpharma06.htm
" The pharmaceutical industry makes over one trillion dollars from
selling drugs for ongoing diseases.
That's a fact but the below is called an baseless opinion not based in
evidence or in false citations.
Pity after all these years you can't tell the difference between the three
categories.
Fact supported by evidence.
Opinions of what facts means weighted by experience and strength of
evidence.
Opinions based on unsupported evidence, with little or no experience in the
field, or baseless or idle speculations.
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
These drugs may relieve symptoms, but they do not cure.
That is not based on evidence at all.
Still,working on the foot fungus that you can't seem to cure?
Gee, I heard that the drug companiesmake a cure for foot fungus?
Several it appears, since there are several different types of fungus,
there are several different treatments.
Gee, I heard drugs only relieve symptoms but they do not cure. Too bad that
person making that statement hasn’t tried some real medicine.

Dodgy is as dodgy does
2017-08-08 08:14:05 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industrybigpharma06.htm
" The pharmaceutical industry makes over one trillion dollars from
selling drugs for ongoing diseases.
That's a fact but the below is called an baseless opinion not based in
evidence or in false citations.
Pity after all these years you can't tell the difference between the three
categories.
Fact supported by evidence.
Vaccines aren't supported by evidence - there are no long-term studies
comparing health of vaccinated against un-vaccinated.
Post by Bob Officer
Opinions of what facts means weighted by experience and strength of
evidence.
There is no evidence. Its all smoke and mirrors.
Post by Bob Officer
Opinions based on unsupported evidence, with little or no experience in the
field, or baseless or idle speculations.
That's pharmaceutical drugs - where marketing is more important than
research.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
These drugs may relieve symptoms, but they do not cure.
That is not based on evidence at all.
Big pharma is all about making money.
They're not interested in cures.
Post by Bob Officer
Still,working on the foot fungus that you can't seem to cure?
Its under control - thanks for caring.

Remember Hering's Law of cure
Cures are effected from the top down, from the inside out and from the
newest to the oldest symptoms, meaning -

1. The head is the first symptom to be cured and the feet last.
2. The organs are cured before the skin parts.
3. The body cures in reverse order of appearance, meaning that newest
symptoms are cured before older symptoms.

see Hering's Law of Cure http://whale.to/v/hering.html

Get over it and get a life.
Big pharma is all about profits - not cures.
A cured patient is a lost source of revenue.


--
Dodgy Dealings

10 Counterinsurgency And 'Psy-Ops' Tactics Companies Use Against
Protesters
http://tinyurl.com/gskmtgx

This US Government Is The Most Corrupt In History
http://www.globalresearch.ca/this-us-government-is-the-most-corrupt-in-history/5525810

CDC EXPOSED
https://anticorruptionsociety.com/center-for-disease-control-exposed/

Big Pharma: social impact index reveals a lack of transparency
http://tinyurl.com/qe6r4aa


Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2282014

"Global pharmaceutical companies paid tax of just $85 million in
Australia on revenues of more than $8 billion.
http://tinyurl.com/qj8lmmb


The Globalization of Poverty and the New World Order
by Michel Chossudovsky
http://tinyurl.com/as5ynd3

U.S. Wealth-Concentration: Wealthiest Tenth (10%) of Americans Own 75%
of America
http://tinyurl.com/nzr4mw3

Modern schooling and the war against competition
http://tinyurl.com/o4bv7e6
"In many respects we don’t have a free market economy. We have
cartels, which are the escape from free market, not the natural
progression of free market. They wage war against competition, not by
the traditional means of attracting consumer confidence, but by taking
the reigns of power in government itself and wielding it against its
adversaries. The Rockefeller dynasty represents the epitome of
cartels. Rockefeller’s partnership with Germany’s pharmaceutical giant
I. G. Farben in 1929 formed the most powerful cartel in history."












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