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this is what carole says never happens.
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Bob Officer
2017-05-11 03:42:52 UTC
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This is a case report from a well know medical doctor. Worth the few
minutes it will,take to read. It isn't overly technical, but this is
something which often happens. Doctors take people off of medications, and
substitute so called "meditative techniques" rather than drugs.

https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.org/2016/04/diving-cold-swimming-pool-thunderclap-headache-diagnostic-conundrum/?utm_campaign=qd+tweets&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum&dynid=twitter-_-qd+tweets-_-social-_-social-_-160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum

Or

https://goo.gl/N6A6Pf

It is an interesting read.
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Lu
2017-05-12 02:53:58 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
This is a case report from a well know medical doctor. Worth the few
minutes it will,take to read. It isn't overly technical, but this is
something which often happens. Doctors take people off of medications, and
substitute so called "meditative techniques" rather than drugs.
https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.org/2016/04/diving-cold-swimming-pool-thunde
rclap-headache-diagnostic-conundrum/?utm_campaign=qd+tweets&utm_medium=social&
utm_source=twitter&utm_content=160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundru
m&dynid=twitter-_-qd+tweets-_-social-_-social-_-160428+thunderclap+headache+di
agnostic+conundrum
Or
https://goo.gl/N6A6Pf
It is an interesting read.
I found this interesting too.
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/family/2014/01/growing_up_unvaccinated_a_he
althy_lifestyle_couldn_t_prevent_many_childhood.html
Mo Onions
2017-05-12 12:59:17 UTC
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Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
This is a case report from a well know medical doctor. Worth the few
minutes it will,take to read. It isn't overly technical, but this is
something which often happens. Doctors take people off of medications, and
substitute so called "meditative techniques" rather than drugs.
https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.org/2016/04/diving-cold-swimming-pool-thunde
rclap-headache-diagnostic-conundrum/?utm_campaign=qd+tweets&utm_medium=social&
utm_source=twitter&utm_content=160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundru
m&dynid=twitter-_-qd+tweets-_-social-_-social-_-160428+thunderclap+headache+di
agnostic+conundrum
Or
https://goo.gl/N6A6Pf
It is an interesting read.
I found this interesting too.
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/family/2014/01/growing_up_unvaccinated_a_he
althy_lifestyle_couldn_t_prevent_many_childhood.html
better links:

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/family/2014/01/growing_up_unvaccinated_a_healthy_lifestyle_couldn_t_prevent_many_childhood.html

or

https://tinyurl.com/n3g9xt4
For obvious reasons
2017-05-17 16:26:30 UTC
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On Thu, 11 May 2017 03:42:52 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
This is a case report from a well know medical doctor. Worth the few
minutes it will,take to read. It isn't overly technical, but this is
something which often happens. Doctors take people off of medications, and
substitute so called "meditative techniques" rather than drugs.
https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.org/2016/04/diving-cold-swimming-pool-thunderclap-headache-diagnostic-conundrum/?utm_campaign=qd+tweets&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum&dynid=twitter-_-qd+tweets-_-social-_-social-_-160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum
Or
https://goo.gl/N6A6Pf
It is an interesting read.
They took her off her mainstream drugs and substituted holistic
remedies.

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For obvious reasons

Why modern healthcare is in such a shambles
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/the-ph-miracle-for-cancer.html

1953 Fitzgerald Report - Suppressed Cancer Treatments
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2007/04/03/1953_fitzgerald_report_suppressed_cancer_treatments.htm

A conspiracy to destroy natural medicine and profit from sickness and
disease
The history of medical suppression in America can be traced back to
the Rockefeller Foundation and the rise of the American Medical
Association, led by a sociopathic, arrogant huckster named Dr.
Fishbein. Working in conspiracy to destroy natural medicine and
chiropractic medicine, these criminal institutions gave rise to
allopathic medicine which is currently responsible for the mass
killing of at least one million people per year.
http://www.naturalnews.com/052981_medical_monopoly_government_censorship_marijuana.html


Can My Doctor Get Into Big Legal Trouble by Offering Natural Health
Treatments?
http://www.anh-usa.org/readers-corner-can-doctor-get-into-trouble-offering-natural-treatments/

How Pharmaceuticals Came To Be The 4th Leading Cause Of Death In
America
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/11/20/how-pharmaceuticals-came-to-be-the-4th-leading-cause-of-death-in-america/

What is the Leading Cause of Death in U.S. ?
http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/what-is-the-leading-cause-of-death-in-u-s/

"The Science of Getting It Wrong: How to Deal with False Research
Findings
Ioannidis says that researchers have become increasingly sophisticated
at acquiring large amounts of data from genomics and other studies,
and at spinning it in different ways—much like TV weathercasters
proclaiming every day a record-setting meteorological event of some
sort. As a result, he says, it is easy to come up with findings that
are "significant" in the statistical sense, yet not scientifically
valid."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-of-getting-it/




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The Newest Other Guy
2017-05-17 19:49:44 UTC
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On Thu, 18 May 2017 02:26:30 +1000, For obvious reasons
Post by For obvious reasons
On Thu, 11 May 2017 03:42:52 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
This is a case report from a well know medical doctor. Worth the few
minutes it will,take to read. It isn't overly technical, but this is
something which often happens. Doctors take people off of medications, and
substitute so called "meditative techniques" rather than drugs.
https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.org/2016/04/diving-cold-swimming-pool-thunderclap-headache-diagnostic-conundrum/?utm_campaign=qd+tweets&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum&dynid=twitter-_-qd+tweets-_-social-_-social-_-160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum
Or
https://goo.gl/N6A6Pf
It is an interesting read.
They took her off her mainstream drugs and substituted holistic
remedies.
BULLSHIT, that is NOT what the story says!!


DAMN, you're fucking STUPID!!
Bob Officer
2017-05-18 02:47:37 UTC
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Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Thu, 18 May 2017 02:26:30 +1000, For obvious reasons
Post by For obvious reasons
On Thu, 11 May 2017 03:42:52 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
This is a case report from a well know medical doctor. Worth the few
minutes it will,take to read. It isn't overly technical, but this is
something which often happens. Doctors take people off of medications, and
substitute so called "meditative techniques" rather than drugs.
https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.org/2016/04/diving-cold-swimming-pool-thunderclap-headache-diagnostic-conundrum/?utm_campaign=qd+tweets&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum&dynid=twitter-_-qd+tweets-_-social-_-social-_-160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum
Or
https://goo.gl/N6A6Pf
It is an interesting read.
They took her off her mainstream drugs and substituted holistic
remedies.
BULLSHIT, that is NOT what the story says!!
DAMN, you're fucking STUPID!!
Sad isn't it.
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John Cleese on Stupidity
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Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Bob Officer
2017-05-18 02:47:37 UTC
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Post by For obvious reasons
On Thu, 11 May 2017 03:42:52 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
This is a case report from a well know medical doctor. Worth the few
minutes it will,take to read. It isn't overly technical, but this is
something which often happens. Doctors take people off of medications, and
substitute so called "meditative techniques" rather than drugs.
https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.org/2016/04/diving-cold-swimming-pool-thunderclap-headache-diagnostic-conundrum/?utm_campaign=qd+tweets&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum&dynid=twitter-_-qd+tweets-_-social-_-social-_-160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum
Or
https://goo.gl/N6A6Pf
It is an interesting read.
They took her off her mainstream drugs and substituted holistic
remedies.
The put her on medicines which worked for the actual problem, and took her
off of SSRI. Substituting a combination of other medications as needed to
control the issue plus mediation.

This a case report dealing with mistaken diagnosis and dealing with the
case.
Post by For obvious reasons
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For obvious reasons
Why modern healthcare is in such a shambles
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/the-ph-miracle-for-cancer.html
1953 Fitzgerald Report - Suppressed Cancer Treatments
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2007/04/03/1953_fitzgerald_report_suppressed_cancer_treatments.htm
A conspiracy to destroy natural medicine and profit from sickness and
disease
The history of medical suppression in America can be traced back to
the Rockefeller Foundation and the rise of the American Medical
Association, led by a sociopathic, arrogant huckster named Dr.
Fishbein. Working in conspiracy to destroy natural medicine and
chiropractic medicine, these criminal institutions gave rise to
allopathic medicine which is currently responsible for the mass
killing of at least one million people per year.
http://www.naturalnews.com/052981_medical_monopoly_government_censorship_marijuana.html
Can My Doctor Get Into Big Legal Trouble by Offering Natural Health
Treatments?
http://www.anh-usa.org/readers-corner-can-doctor-get-into-trouble-offering-natural-treatments/
How Pharmaceuticals Came To Be The 4th Leading Cause Of Death In
America
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/11/20/how-pharmaceuticals-came-to-be-the-4th-leading-cause-of-death-in-america/
What is the Leading Cause of Death in U.S. ?
http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/what-is-the-leading-cause-of-death-in-u-s/
"The Science of Getting It Wrong: How to Deal with False Research
Findings
Ioannidis says that researchers have become increasingly sophisticated
at acquiring large amounts of data from genomics and other studies,
and at spinning it in different ways—much like TV weathercasters
proclaiming every day a record-setting meteorological event of some
sort. As a result, he says, it is easy to come up with findings that
are "significant" in the statistical sense, yet not scientifically
valid."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-of-getting-it/
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John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:

For obvious reasons
2017-05-23 02:18:15 UTC
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On Thu, 18 May 2017 02:47:37 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by For obvious reasons
On Thu, 11 May 2017 03:42:52 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
This is a case report from a well know medical doctor. Worth the few
minutes it will,take to read. It isn't overly technical, but this is
something which often happens. Doctors take people off of medications, and
substitute so called "meditative techniques" rather than drugs.
https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.org/2016/04/diving-cold-swimming-pool-thunderclap-headache-diagnostic-conundrum/?utm_campaign=qd+tweets&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum&dynid=twitter-_-qd+tweets-_-social-_-social-_-160428+thunderclap+headache+diagnostic+conundrum
Or
https://goo.gl/N6A6Pf
It is an interesting read.
They took her off her mainstream drugs and substituted holistic
remedies.
The put her on medicines which worked for the actual problem, and took her
off of SSRI. Substituting a combination of other medications as needed to
control the issue plus mediation.
Was that meant to be "mediation" ?
Maybe you meant medication.
Mediation is more for when there is some sort of dispute.
Post by Bob Officer
This a case report dealing with mistaken diagnosis and dealing with the
case.
What happened here is that occasionally mainstream likes to throw in a
bit of what you'd call alternative therapies -- just to say they use
them when required -- although such cases are few and far between,
that generally every disease needs to have "safe and efficacious"
pharmaceutical drugs.

( Bob just doesn't get it -- IMO a bit of a lost cause really )




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For obvious reasons

Why modern healthcare is in such a shambles
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/the-ph-miracle-for-cancer.html

1953 Fitzgerald Report - Suppressed Cancer Treatments
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2007/04/03/1953_fitzgerald_report_suppressed_cancer_treatments.htm

A conspiracy to destroy natural medicine and profit from sickness and
disease
The history of medical suppression in America can be traced back to
the Rockefeller Foundation and the rise of the American Medical
Association, led by a sociopathic, arrogant huckster named Dr.
Fishbein. Working in conspiracy to destroy natural medicine and
chiropractic medicine, these criminal institutions gave rise to
allopathic medicine which is currently responsible for the mass
killing of at least one million people per year.
http://www.naturalnews.com/052981_medical_monopoly_government_censorship_marijuana.html


Can My Doctor Get Into Big Legal Trouble by Offering Natural Health
Treatments?
http://www.anh-usa.org/readers-corner-can-doctor-get-into-trouble-offering-natural-treatments/

How Pharmaceuticals Came To Be The 4th Leading Cause Of Death In
America
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/11/20/how-pharmaceuticals-came-to-be-the-4th-leading-cause-of-death-in-america/

What is the Leading Cause of Death in U.S. ?
http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/what-is-the-leading-cause-of-death-in-u-s/

"The Science of Getting It Wrong: How to Deal with False Research
Findings
Ioannidis says that researchers have become increasingly sophisticated
at acquiring large amounts of data from genomics and other studies,
and at spinning it in different ways—much like TV weathercasters
proclaiming every day a record-setting meteorological event of some
sort. As a result, he says, it is easy to come up with findings that
are "significant" in the statistical sense, yet not scientifically
valid."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-of-getting-it/



"An Epidemic of False Claims
Much research is conducted for reasons other than the pursuit of
truth. Conflicts of interest abound, and they influence outcomes. In
health care, research is often performed at the behest of companies
that have a large financial stake in the results. Even for academics,
success often hinges on publishing positive findings. The oligopoly of
high-impact journals also has a distorting effect on funding, academic
careers and market shares. Industry tailors research agendas to suit
its needs, which also shapes academic priorities, journal revenue and
even public funding."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/an-epidemic-of-false-claims/





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