Discussion:
Hunter-gatherer Clue to Obesity
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-07-26 22:33:29 UTC
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18985141
By Helen Briggs BBC News
The idea that exercise is more important than diet in the fight
against obesity has been contradicted by new research. A study of the
Hadza tribe, who still exist as hunter gatherers, suggests the amount
of calories we need is a fixed human characteristic. This suggests
Westerners are growing obese through over-eating rather than having
inactive lifestyles, say scientists. One in 10 people will be obese by
2015. And, nearly one in three of the worldwide population is expected
to be overweight, according to figures from the World Health
Organization. The Western lifestyle is thought to be largely to blame
for the obesity "epidemic".
Various factors are involved, including processed foods high in sugar
and fat, large portion sizes, and a sedentary lifestyle where cars and
machines do most of the daily physical work. The relative balance of
overeating to lack of exercise is a matter of debate, however. Some
experts have proposed that our need for calories has dropped
drastically since the industrial revolution, and this is a bigger risk
factor for obesity than changes in diet. A study published in the PLoS
ONE journal tested the theory, by looking at energy expenditure in the
Hadza tribe of Tanzania. The Hadza people, who still live as hunter
gatherers, were used as a model of the ancient human lifestyle.
Members of the 1,000-strong population hunt animals and forage for
berries, roots and fruit on foot, using bows, small axes, and digging
sticks. They don't use modern tools or guns.
A team of scientists from the US, Tanzania and the UK, measured energy
expenditure in 30 Hadza men and women aged between 18 and 75. They
found physical activity levels were much higher in the Hadza men and
women, but when corrected for size and weight, their metabolic rate
was no different to that of Westerners.
Dr Herman Pontzer of the department of anthropology at Hunter College,
New York, said everyone had assumed that hunter gatherers would burn
hundreds more calories a day than adults in the US and Europe. The
data came as a surprise, he said, highlighting the complexity of
energy expenditure. But he stressed that physical exercise is
nonetheless important for maintaining good health. "This to me says
that the big reason that Westerners are getting fat is because we eat
too much - it's not because we exercise too little," said Dr Pontzer.
"Being active is really important to your health but it won't keep you
thin - we need to eat less to do that. Daily energy expenditure might
be an evolved trait that has been shaped by evolution and is common
among all people and not some simple reflection of our diverse
lifestyles."
Original paper at
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0040503
Abstract
Western lifestyles differ markedly from those of our hunter-gatherer
ancestors, and these differences in diet and activity level are often
implicated in the global obesity pandemic. However, few physiological
data for hunter-gatherer populations are available to test these
models of obesity. In this study, we used the doubly-labeled water
method to measure total daily energy expenditure (kCal/day) in Hadza
hunter-gatherers to test whether foragers expend more energy each day
than their Western counterparts. As expected, physical activity level,
PAL, was greater among Hadza foragers than among Westerners.
Nonetheless, average daily energy expenditure of traditional Hadza
foragers was no different than that of Westerners after controlling
for body size. The metabolic cost of walking (kcal kg-1 m-1) and
resting (kcal kg-1 s-1) were also similar among Hadza and Western
groups. The similarity in metabolic rates across a broad range of
cultures challenges current models of obesity suggesting that Western
lifestyles lead to decreased energy expenditure. We hypothesize that
human daily energy expenditure may be an evolved physiological trait
largely independent of cultural differences.
Yes, everyone needs to stop overeating.

The absolutely only **healthy** way to stop the overeating without
harmful undernourishment is to http://WDJW.net/Guard (Proverbs 4:23)
the heart (Jeremiah 17:9) by holding to the right amount, which is 32
oz of daily food.

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?

Don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/91c1431a6b413912?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0e719da5c2d970ca?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-09-06 02:10:51 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0e719da5c2d970ca?

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-09-21 01:31:08 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0e719da5c2d970ca?

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Jimmy Alpha GeD
2012-09-29 03:44:52 UTC
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"I'm starving!"
Everyone knows the feeling of starving, it's ok to feel you're starving,
but now we must find the "why" for that feeling.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
Julie, let Jimmy give insight on why you girls feel you are always
*starving*.
No you are not.
You see Dr sightwalker is right, you're not really starving for food,
but *starving* for sex, making baby. Mother nature/evolution over aeons
programed you to know fat was the healthy way to have children. Hence
this is one of the reasons on average the fat women can enjoy sex more
than her skinny counter part. Fat gives you the feeling of security,
skinny and you'll be more suicidal. Why do you think men take ladies out
to eat? It's to ready them for sex! That's why a medium pizza and a
little sex work so well together. Beer gives a filling feeling too and a
little buzz, hence beer is great for sexual simulations. Remember your
over eating is basically a substitute for your lack of sex. Hence more
food equals a need for more sex, not a diet.

This is from Jimmy not some text book but true none the less, I say have
a BLT and beer then go bang them calories off doing your part to make
someone else happy as you help find yourself.

I hope this helps you understand your *starving* is coming from your
loin's, telling you to have beer and get wild! If you *starve* a lot,
drink lite beer and enjoy having the extra pounds pounded off.

The tripe about omars or omers or whatever from sightwalker makes for
wonderful humor, but from a dreadfully sick chap who may only want to
sell you his little diet book and not care about your well being? One
has perhaps died from under eating who may have been under the two pound
diet, we don't want you to be number two.

Do for free as Jimmy tells ya, and make the world a better place.
Jimmy "vote King Obama out" Alpha GeD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-10-21 03:56:08 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Uergil
2012-10-21 06:38:48 UTC
Permalink
In article
So don't be an evil Chung!
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children in classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
Rev. Fairchild
2012-11-04 00:37:31 UTC
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Everything Andrew B. Chung writes regarding the Markea Berry case 'can
and will be held against him' by the prosecution.
______________________________________________________________________________________________
Markea's ghost will shut that accursed soul up along
with shutting up all the other accursed souls as she destroys their
families one by one per command. Vengeance is Mine. I shall
avenge. -- Dr. Crackpot posing as God.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fbc3a51527114d2

More stuff for people to forward as they see fit to:

Sheriff Neil Warren, Cobb County Sheriff's Office neil.warren @
cobbcounty.org

And to Jaye Watson, from 11 Alive News, jwatson @ 11alive.com.

Cobb County, GA District Attorney
http://www.cobbda.com/

FBI - Atlanta
http://www.fbi.gov/atlanta/

Alabama Board of Medical Examiners and Medical Licensure Commission of
Alabama.
http://www.albme.org/complaint.html

Central State Hospital - Georgia's hospital for the mentally ill.
http://www.centralstatehospital.org/

--
"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

"Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-11-04 00:26:41 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-11-18 04:50:05 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Vurgil
2012-11-18 05:22:20 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
]v[etaphoid³
2012-11-19 07:41:45 UTC
Permalink
A Google search for the word "hunger" in conjunction with the word
"starvation" produced these synonymous results:

"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"

"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by
hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve

"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm

"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/

"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48

"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

Also discovered was:

"OVERWEIGHT DIABETES PATIENTS LIVE LONGER":
http://www.redorbit.com/news/video/health_2/1112679920/overweight-diabetes-patients-live-longer/

"Overweight, obese people living longer even with diabetes":
http://preview.tinyurl.com/9tpfk43

"Study: Overweight People Live Longer":
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer

"Excess Pounds, but Not Too Many, May Lead to Longer Life":
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/26/health/26weight.html

"Portland researchers find slightly overweight people live longer than
normal-weight people":
http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2009/06/portland_researchers_find_slig.html

"A Little Extra Weight Protects People From Early Death":
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090623133523.htm
Hhnger is starvation
2012-11-19 07:43:18 UTC
Permalink
This gentile [self proclaimed false] Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
of foods yesterday
Meanwhile Markea Blakely-Berry is dead at the age of 16, according to
media reports her death is; "linked to '“Hunger Cult” Doc" "Dr. Andrew
Chung" who "is friends with Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/89b9c70569d587b1

Furthermore, Dr. Andrew B. Chung made the following outrageous and
outlandish statement:

"Markea's ghost will shut that accursed soul up along
with shutting up all the other accursed souls as she destroys their
families one by one per command. Vengeance is Mine. I shall
avenge."
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fbc3a51527114d2

--

"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)"
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172

"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's ..."
http://www.atoast2wealth.com/2012/06/27/update-dr-andrew-chung-admits-he-spoke-with-starved-teens-mom-ebony-berry/

"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ..."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23

"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

--
Hunger is starvation.

"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"

"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by
hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve

"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm

"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/

"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48

"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer
Hunger is starvation
2012-11-20 11:40:49 UTC
Permalink
A Google search for the word "hunger" in conjunction with the word
"starvation" produced these synonymous results:

"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the single
gravest threat to the world"

"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve

"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm

"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/

"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48

"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

Also discovered was:

"OVERWEIGHT DIABETES PATIENTS LIVE LONGER":
http://www.redorbit.com/news/video/health_2/1112679920/overweight-diabetes-patients-live-longer/

"Overweight, obese people living longer even with diabetes":
http://preview.tinyurl.com/9tpfk43

"Study: Overweight People Live Longer":
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer

"Excess Pounds, but Not Too Many, May Lead to Longer Life":
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/26/health/26weight.html

"Portland researchers find slightly overweight people live longer than
normal-weight people":
http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2009/06/portland_researchers_find_slig.html

"A Little Extra Weight Protects People From Early Death":
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090623133523.htm


*
Hunger is starvation
2012-11-22 02:28:42 UTC
Permalink
A Google search of "Andrew Chung and Markea Blakely-Berry" produced
the following results:

"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)"
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172

"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's ..."
http://www.atoast2wealth.com/2012/06/27/update-dr-andrew-chung-admits-he-spoke-with-starved-teens-mom-ebony-berry/

"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ..."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23

"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

--
Hunger is starvation.

"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"

"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by
hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve

"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm

"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/

"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48

"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer
Hunger is starvation
2012-11-22 05:27:13 UTC
Permalink
This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
of foods yesterday
Meanwhile according to these headlines, Markea Blakely-Berry is dead
probably because of the crackpot hunger cult. Hope the crackpot is
enjoying himself.

--
"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)"
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172

"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's ..."
http://www.atoast2wealth.com/2012/06/27/update-dr-andrew-chung-admits-he-spoke-with-starved-teens-mom-ebony-berry/

"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ..."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23

"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

--
Hunger is starvation.

"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"
Hunger is starvation
2012-11-23 09:41:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Uergil
And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time
and out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
Students no longer hungry are no longer healthy
They are healthier as students, than those distracted by hunger.
And that Chung cannot learn this marks him as invincibly ignorant.
"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48

..............
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-11-19 05:15:10 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2012-11-19 22:41:06 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
Hunger is starvation
2012-11-20 02:23:47 UTC
Permalink
Everything Andrew B. Chung writes regarding the Markea Berry case 'can
and will be held against him' - Miranda warning.
______________________________________________________________________________________________

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" seeming to have gone even more insane
Markea's ghost will shut that accursed soul up along
with shutting up all the other accursed souls as she destroys their
families one by one per command. Vengeance is Mine. I shall
avenge. -- Dr. Crackpot posing as God.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fbc3a51527114d2

Sadly, more stuff for people to forward as they see fit to:

Sheriff Neil Warren, Cobb County Sheriff's Office neil.warren @
cobbcounty.org

And to Jaye Watson, from 11 Alive News, jwatson @ 11alive.com.

Cobb County, GA District Attorney
http://www.cobbda.com/

FBI - Atlanta
http://www.fbi.gov/atlanta/

Alabama Board of Medical Examiners and Medical Licensure Commission of
Alabama.
http://www.albme.org/complaint.html

Central State Hospital - Georgia's hospital for the mentally ill.
http://www.centralstatehospital.org/

--
"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

"Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-11-22 00:46:38 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2012-11-22 03:03:20 UTC
Permalink
In article
Those who are like Ayoob do good.
while those who are like Chung do evil.
so for heaven's sake BE AN AYOOB
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-11-24 05:55:31 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2012-11-24 06:42:20 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-12-11 00:07:37 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2012-12-11 02:17:09 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn, nor allow others in those
classes to do so.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-12-13 07:19:08 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2012-12-13 08:46:43 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn, nor allow others in those
classes to do so.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-12-14 10:06:19 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2012-12-14 22:52:18 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn, nor allow others in those
classes to do so.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-12-16 01:19:08 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
%
2012-12-15 01:35:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
"I'm starving!"
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.
If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives.
Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?
So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Andrew <><
Virgil
2012-12-16 03:59:40 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn, nor allow others in those
classes to do so.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-12-16 07:06:23 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2012-12-16 07:42:04 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn, nor allow others in those
classes to do so.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-12-18 08:57:43 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2012-12-18 09:14:11 UTC
Permalink
In article
So don't be an Ayoob>
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn, nor allow others in those
classes to do so.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-12-19 10:10:57 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2012-12-19 21:08:43 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn, nor allow others in those
classes to do so.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-12-21 01:55:01 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2012-12-21 04:15:18 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn, nor allow others in those
classes to do so.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-12-23 08:29:34 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2012-12-23 08:53:07 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn, nor allow others in those
classes to do so.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-12-24 08:20:20 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-12-28 00:22:43 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-16 02:47:23 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2013-01-16 03:15:41 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
unless you want to do good rather than support Chung's evil.
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn much, nor allow others in those
classes to do so. They create disturbances.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school, so they can get the most out of school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes or being truant than breakfasted and in class
and good students in class.
--
Happy Oyster
2013-01-15 16:40:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Uergil
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
unless you want to do good rather than support Chung's evil.
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.
Hungry children in classes don't learn much, nor allow others in those
classes to do so. They create disturbances.
Hungry children hunger. Their brain dies, cell for cell.
Post by Uergil
So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school, so they can get the most out of school.
"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/
And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes or being truant than breakfasted and in class
and good students in class.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-16 08:02:43 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2013-01-17 00:27:03 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
unless you want to do good rather than support Chung's evil.
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn much, nor allow others in those
classes to do so. They create disturbances.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school, so they can get the most out of school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes or being truant than breakfasted and in class
and good students in class.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-17 08:11:00 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2013-01-17 09:09:20 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
unless you want to do good rather than support Chung's evil.
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn much, nor allow others in those
classes to do so. They create disturbances.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school, so they can get the most out of school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes or being truant than breakfasted and in class
and good students in class.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-18 06:28:55 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2013-01-18 07:52:43 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
unless you want to do good rather than support Chung's evil.
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn much, nor allow others in those
classes to do so. They create disturbances.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school, so they can get the most out of school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes or being truant than breakfasted and in class
and good students in class.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-19 11:14:16 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-20 08:48:51 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2013-01-20 20:55:06 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
unless you want to do good rather than support Chung's evil.
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn much, nor allow others in those
classes to do so. They create disturbances.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school, so they can get the most out of school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes or being truant than breakfasted and in class
and good students in class.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-21 08:16:47 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2013-01-21 22:11:28 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
unless you want to do good rather than support Chung's evil.
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn much, nor allow others in those
classes to do so. They create disturbances.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school, so they can get the most out of school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes or being truant than breakfasted and in class
and good students in class.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-22 13:06:29 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2013-01-22 22:19:44 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
unless you want to do good rather than support Chung's evil.
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn much, nor allow others in those
classes to do so. They create disturbances.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school, so they can get the most out of school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes or being truant than breakfasted and in class
and good students in class.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-23 09:58:19 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2013-01-23 20:43:02 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
unless you want to do good rather than support Chung's evil.
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn much, nor allow others in those
classes to do so. They create disturbances.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school, so they can get the most out of school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes or being truant than breakfasted and in class
and good students in class.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-24 09:15:17 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-26 00:34:07 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Ken
2013-01-26 00:56:42 UTC
Permalink
FOAD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-26 08:36:56 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2013-01-26 22:48:56 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
unless you want to do good rather than support Chung's evil.
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn much, nor allow others in those
classes to do so. They create disturbances.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school, so they can get the most out of school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes or being truant than breakfasted and in class
and good students in class.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-27 11:42:46 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Virgil
2013-01-27 22:30:10 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
So don't be an Ayoob
unless you want to do good rather than support Chung's evil.
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn much, nor allow others in those
classes to do so. They create disturbances.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school, so they can get the most out of school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes or being truant than breakfasted and in class
and good students in class.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-28 13:11:40 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-29 12:55:12 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-30 11:04:14 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-01-31 13:11:08 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-02-01 12:45:00 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Jimmy Alpha
2013-02-01 19:06:29 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
For sex, that is what poor Julie really craves. A yearning for a good
old fashioned lay is often hoped to be suppressed by a fork and spoon,
but that feeling of starving lingers.
Jimmy "starving too" Alpha
Ken
2013-02-01 19:10:02 UTC
Permalink
Chung da Chink
%
2013-02-01 19:28:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ken
Chung da Chink
you fall for chung's troll bait
Jimmy Alpha
2013-02-02 00:06:21 UTC
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Post by %
Post by Ken
Chung da Chink
you fall for chung's troll bait
Yes, isn't it wonderful!
Jimmy Alpha
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-02-02 12:35:33 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-02-04 13:15:36 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Ken
2013-02-04 15:13:17 UTC
Permalink
Chung da Chink
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-02-05 12:25:13 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#04037)
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-02-06 13:10:24 UTC
Permalink
"I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
insulin tomorrow. But...
I am starving!
No you are not.
Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#04037)
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
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