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Science psycho
2017-10-19 01:58:47 UTC
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Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
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Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients

Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman

" In a story akin to "the mouse that roared," a major report from the
Swiss government has determined that the very small doses commonly
used in homeopathic medicine are both effective and cost-effective. "

"Ultimately, the Swiss government's report was the most comprehensive
review to date of any governmental body on the scientific evidence on
homeopathic medicine."

"he Swiss report found that total practice costs for physicians who
specialized in homeopathic medicine had an overall 15.4 percent
reduction in overall health care costs associated with their practice,
as compared with physicians who practiced conventional medicine as
well as those physicians who practice other "complementary and
alternative medicine" treatments (but not homeopathic medicine). (2)"


"The Swiss government's report on homeopathy also referenced numerous
studies that evaluated the cost-effectiveness of homeopathic vs.
conventional medical care for people suffering from specific health
problems, including female fertility, rheumatoid arthritis, otitis
media, respiratory allergies and dyspepsia. Of special significance
was the truly substantial difference between the costs of homeopathic
treatment of women experiencing fertility problems as compared with
women seeking conventional medical care.

A study of children with upper respiratory tract infections found that
children who received homeopathic treatment had fewer recurrences and
lower antibiotic consumption than children using conventional
treatment. Further, an economic assessment of 569 patients with
rheumatic disorders found that 29 percent could stop taking their
conventional medications, 33 percent could reduce their dependence on
drugs, and only 6 percent chose to increase their medication once
homeopathic treatment began."


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Oncologists routinely tell two lies:
1. "You'll be dead in x months if you don't take chemotherapy"
2. "Chemotherapy is the only option" - when there are a dozen options,
the worst of which is chemotherapy.

How scientific are orthodox cancer treatments?
http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/the-science-of-the-orthodox-cancer-treatments

Western medicine is Rockefeller medicine - all the way.
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Bob Officer
2017-10-19 02:38:03 UTC
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Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
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Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:

Science psycho
2017-10-22 20:16:58 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.



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Science psycho
Debunking the Placebo Effect
http://www.chiro.org/nutrition/FULL/Debunking_the_Placebo.shtml

Chemotherapy - none-evidence-based experimental drug
http://www.cancervictors.net/resources/news-archive?start=30

www.chemokills.info
Oncologists routinely tell two lies:
1. "You'll be dead in x months if you don't take chemotherapy"
2. "Chemotherapy is the only option" - when there are a dozen options,
the worst of which is chemotherapy.

How scientific are orthodox cancer treatments?
http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/the-science-of-the-orthodox-cancer-treatments

Western medicine is Rockefeller medicine - all the way.
http://tinyurl.com/p26c3wy

Most Scientific Research of Western Medicine Untrustable & Fraudulent,
Say Insiders and Experts
http://tinyurl.com/qf24w6s

Academic oligarchy: Majority of science publishing is controlled by
just six companies
http://tinyurl.com/owpz75z

Gotzsche wrote a book published back in 2013 entitled Deadly Medicine
and Organised Crime: How Big Pharma Has Corrupted Healthcare that
exposes the drug industry for engaging in massive fraud and deception
to push deadly drugs like psych meds on the public. The system has
been so corrupted by this influence that millions of people are now
taking drugs that don't work and are extremely deadly.
http://tinyurl.com/p66yu3q

How Bogus Scientific Studies Are Created
http://www.cancertutor.com/Other/BogusScience.html
"How Bogus Scientific Studies Are Created
The pharmaceutical industry, with their total control over the
National Institutes of Health (NIH), National Cancer Institute (NCI),
Food and Drug Administration (FDA), etc. have also funded many, many
millions of dollars of bogus scientific studies. In fact, their budget
is in the billions of dollars every year!! Couple this with their
control of the media and you have the situation we are in today.
It is the Prime Directive of medical research to do two things: First,
make it appear there is "scientific evidence" for orthodox cancer
treatments, orthodox heart disease prevention treatments, etc., and
Second, make it appear there is "no scientific evidence" for
alternative cancer treatments, alternative heart disease prevention
treatments, and so on."

The Massive Flaw with the Scientific Hierarchy of Evidence
http://tinyurl.com/lmcwlvb

Calling the FDA, AMA and Big Pharma: What the Term “Medical Mafia”
Means
http://naturalsociety.com/what-the-term-medical-mafia-means/

The History of the Pharma-Cartel
http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/history_of_the_pharma_cartel.html





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Bob Officer
2017-10-23 19:15:43 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community.
It isn't held in high regard by knowledgeable people. It is based upon a
simple " it is true because Hahnemann said it was true". This is called a
post hoc fallacy. There never was and never has been one iota of evidence
to support Hahnemann's falsified assumptions.
Post by Science psycho
This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it.
"Science doesn't support it" ? Science is simply a tool used to test for
truth. It uses evidence and data. There is zero supporting data and zero
supporting evidence for homeopathy.
Post by Science psycho
Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
Sorry Carole has never taken a class in biology, chemistry, or physics.
Those classes are taught by the experimental method where the actions and
conclusions build the basis of understanding. Each chemical reaction
teaches a lesson when the lessons are group together you end up with a set
of knowledge to build deeper understanding of nature. Each of those
understanding are not carved in stone but subject to constant challenge. If
you want to change understanding of nature, one needs to have evidence or
data, not wild hand waving or idiotic assumptions.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Lu
2017-11-04 13:05:37 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and ethics,
comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
Bob Officer
2017-11-08 03:11:56 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and ethics,
comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.

There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Lu
2017-11-08 04:12:13 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and ethics,
comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Bob Officer
2017-11-09 06:52:07 UTC
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Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and ethics,
comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Carole seems to live in a time vacuum not recent or new matters to her. If
the anchor the claim is made, she seems to thoughtlessly agree with it,
while ignoring then fallacy of appeal to antiquity.

Sadly she is the last holdout of the woo peddlers which filled this news
group at one time. Most of them left when faced with the evidence of their
lies and false claims.

Why Carole has stayed as the last true believer/scammer I don't know.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Philip Kaczynski
2017-11-13 22:38:18 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and ethics,
comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Lu
2017-11-21 02:49:15 UTC
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Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the
study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and ethics,
comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternativ
e-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
I do not believe she has persuaded even one person in all the years I have
been following this newsgroup. Her persistence hasn’t changed one mind or
cleared up her athlete’s foot problem.
Philip Kaczynski
2017-11-22 04:49:27 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the
study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and ethics,
comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternativ
e-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
I do not believe she has persuaded even one person in all the years I have
been following this newsgroup. Her persistence hasn’t changed one mind or
cleared up her athlete’s foot problem.
So then one must wonder why she is so stuborn.
What's in it for her?
Lu
2017-11-26 04:18:46 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND
WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the
study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on
the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics,
comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternat
iv
e-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
I do not believe she has persuaded even one person in all the years I have
been following this newsgroup. Her persistence hasn’t changed one mind or
cleared up her athlete’s foot problem.
So then one must wonder why she is so stuborn.
What's in it for her?
Been trying to figure that out for years.
Science psycho
2017-12-07 07:41:11 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and ethics,
comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public. they lie, spin information and deceive
the public about everything including the usefulness of mainstream
medicine.

Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
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Debunking the Placebo Effect
http://www.chiro.org/nutrition/FULL/Debunking_the_Placebo.shtml

Chemotherapy - none-evidence-based experimental drug
http://www.cancervictors.net/resources/news-archive?start=30

www.chemokills.info
Oncologists routinely tell two lies:
1. "You'll be dead in x months if you don't take chemotherapy"
2. "Chemotherapy is the only option" - when there are a dozen options,
the worst of which is chemotherapy.

How scientific are orthodox cancer treatments?
http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/the-science-of-the-orthodox-cancer-treatments

Western medicine is Rockefeller medicine - all the way.
http://tinyurl.com/p26c3wy

Most Scientific Research of Western Medicine Untrustable & Fraudulent,
Say Insiders and Experts
http://tinyurl.com/qf24w6s

Academic oligarchy: Majority of science publishing is controlled by
just six companies
http://tinyurl.com/owpz75z

Gotzsche wrote a book published back in 2013 entitled Deadly Medicine
and Organised Crime: How Big Pharma Has Corrupted Healthcare that
exposes the drug industry for engaging in massive fraud and deception
to push deadly drugs like psych meds on the public. The system has
been so corrupted by this influence that millions of people are now
taking drugs that don't work and are extremely deadly.
http://tinyurl.com/p66yu3q

How Bogus Scientific Studies Are Created
http://www.cancertutor.com/Other/BogusScience.html
"How Bogus Scientific Studies Are Created
The pharmaceutical industry, with their total control over the
National Institutes of Health (NIH), National Cancer Institute (NCI),
Food and Drug Administration (FDA), etc. have also funded many, many
millions of dollars of bogus scientific studies. In fact, their budget
is in the billions of dollars every year!! Couple this with their
control of the media and you have the situation we are in today.
It is the Prime Directive of medical research to do two things: First,
make it appear there is "scientific evidence" for orthodox cancer
treatments, orthodox heart disease prevention treatments, etc., and
Second, make it appear there is "no scientific evidence" for
alternative cancer treatments, alternative heart disease prevention
treatments, and so on."

The Massive Flaw with the Scientific Hierarchy of Evidence
http://tinyurl.com/lmcwlvb

Calling the FDA, AMA and Big Pharma: What the Term “Medical Mafia”
Means
http://naturalsociety.com/what-the-term-medical-mafia-means/

The History of the Pharma-Cartel
http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/history_of_the_pharma_cartel.html
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Operation Mockingbird.
An operation of the CIA, in the early 1950s, that ATTEMPTED to use the
Media to influence people and their actions. FAILED miserably.
Lu
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Post by Science psycho
Operation Mockingbird.
An operation of the CIA, in the early 1950s, that ATTEMPTED to use the
Media to influence people and their actions. FAILED miserably.
Was that when they tried sub-liminal messaging?
Philip
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and ethics,
comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Science psycho
2018-01-04 16:22:02 UTC
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Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and ethics,
comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Post by Philip
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Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?

And why would any person or group seek that?
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?

Examples of such occurrences?
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?

If so, is mankind doomed?
A little knowledge
2018-01-10 10:28:39 UTC
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Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time. They enjoy
string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it for who
knows how long.

There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby. They all get together and manipulate the
masses. eg they like to keep the people ignorant and dependent on
anything that can make them money - such as fossil fuels rather than
free energy devices that produce lots of energy once a person has the
original piece of machinery. I have heard stories of cars that can run
on water, but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with. Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run
on water as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't work
or other such stories.

The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.

I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.

Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.

Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.


--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing


"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."


Circular reasoning, also known as 'Begging the question'
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
eg of Begging the Question
Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God [and god never lies]"


Is Big Pharma Addicted To Fraud?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/


Patents Over Patients
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/opinion/01moss.html
"We could make faster progress against cancer by changing the way
drugs are developed. In the current system, if a promising compound
can’t be patented, it is highly unlikely ever to make it to market"



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Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time. They enjoy
string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it for who
knows how long.
There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby. They all get together and manipulate the
masses. eg they like to keep the people ignorant and dependent on
anything that can make them money - such as fossil fuels rather than
free energy devices that produce lots of energy once a person has the
original piece of machinery. I have heard stories of cars that can run
on water, but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with. Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run
on water as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't work
or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
A letter by 100 French women writers, performers and academics,
published in France's Le Monde newspaper on Tuesday, stated as
follows:

"Rape is a crime, but trying to seduce someone, even persistently or
clumsily, is not - and nor is men being gentlemanly a chauvinist
attack."

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jan/09/catherine-deneuve-men-should-be-free-hit-on-women-harvey-weinstein-scandal?CMP=share_btn_tw

http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2018/01/10/la-tribune-de-deneuve-fait-reagir-au-dela-des-frontieres_5240067_3224.html#

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/why-did-catherine-deneuve-and-other-prominent-frenchwomen-denounce-metoo

Do you agree with their view?
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
So the public is at the mercy of those who operate medical schools
"with motives other than curing disease" plus their ensuing
"manipulation and control" of the same?
A little knowledge
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Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
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Post by Lu
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time. They enjoy
string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it for who
knows how long.
There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby. They all get together and manipulate the
masses. eg they like to keep the people ignorant and dependent on
anything that can make them money - such as fossil fuels rather than
free energy devices that produce lots of energy once a person has the
original piece of machinery. I have heard stories of cars that can run
on water, but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with. Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run
on water as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't work
or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
A letter by 100 French women writers, performers and academics,
published in France's Le Monde newspaper on Tuesday, stated as
"Rape is a crime, but trying to seduce someone, even persistently or
clumsily, is not - and nor is men being gentlemanly a chauvinist
attack."
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jan/09/catherine-deneuve-men-should-be-free-hit-on-women-harvey-weinstein-scandal?CMP=share_btn_tw
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2018/01/10/la-tribune-de-deneuve-fait-reagir-au-dela-des-frontieres_5240067_3224.html#
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/why-did-catherine-deneuve-and-other-prominent-frenchwomen-denounce-metoo
Do you agree with their view?
I agree with their view.
Note this is France, not US or Australia - and its good that you've
done so much research. I actually heard this on the news somewhere
that a group of women in France including the famour Catherine
Denievre, were speaking out on the matter.

Things are becoming ridiculous where every man that has ever looked at
women the wrong way is being targeted as inappropriate sexual
advances. Who cares, and as if there aren't more important things
going on in the world, such as homelessness and poverty.
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
So the public is at the mercy of those who operate medical schools
"with motives other than curing disease" plus their ensuing
"manipulation and control" of the same?
I don't think those who attend medical schools are in on it -- just
those who create policy. Somehow they are influencing society's
perceptions and creating a system where money rules rather than
healing.

Normal doctors just go along with what they think is the only system
that works. they are victims same as people who go along to see them.
The medical system has all sorts of standards for treating this and
that, what it considers normal and abnormal, that aren't necessarily
correct.

A person can't trust mainstream to treat anything correctly and people
need to do their own research.

And this is one reason I don't blame the unemployed or the uneducated
for their situation. The system is not working to help people and if
somebody has to spend their whole lives working out their health, or
some other issue they have, because mainstream isn't helpful, then I
don't hold it against them. The amount of time and money that goes
into "educating" doctors you'd think they would be able to diagnose
correctly, anticipate and correct disease conditions before they
became an issue. Because they are so inefficient and incompetent and
unable to get to the root cause of people's ailments, they are people
to be wary of rather than trust.


--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing


"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."


Circular reasoning, also known as 'Begging the question'
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
eg of Begging the Question
Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God [and god never lies]"


Is Big Pharma Addicted To Fraud?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/


Patents Over Patients
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/opinion/01moss.html
"We could make faster progress against cancer by changing the way
drugs are developed. In the current system, if a promising compound
can’t be patented, it is highly unlikely ever to make it to market"




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On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 21:28:39 +1100, A little knowledge
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time. They enjoy
string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it for who
knows how long.
There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby. They all get together and manipulate the
masses. eg they like to keep the people ignorant and dependent on
anything that can make them money - such as fossil fuels rather than
free energy devices that produce lots of energy once a person has the
original piece of machinery. I have heard stories of cars that can run
on water, but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with. Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run
on water as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't work
or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
A letter by 100 French women writers, performers and academics,
published in France's Le Monde newspaper on Tuesday, stated as
"Rape is a crime, but trying to seduce someone, even persistently or
clumsily, is not - and nor is men being gentlemanly a chauvinist
attack."
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jan/09/catherine-deneuve-men-should-be-free-hit-on-women-harvey-weinstein-scandal?CMP=share_btn_tw
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2018/01/10/la-tribune-de-deneuve-fait-reagir-au-dela-des-frontieres_5240067_3224.html#
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/why-did-catherine-deneuve-and-other-prominent-frenchwomen-denounce-metoo
Do you agree with their view?
I agree with their view.
Note this is France, not US or Australia - and its good that you've
done so much research. I actually heard this on the news somewhere
that a group of women in France including the famour Catherine
Denievre, were speaking out on the matter.
Things are becoming ridiculous where every man that has ever looked at
women the wrong way is being targeted as inappropriate sexual
advances. Who cares, and as if there aren't more important things
going on in the world, such as homelessness and poverty.
Homelessness and poverty are certianly important problems, as is the
the possibility of war with North Korea, among others.

The women within the "MeToo" movement suggest that there is wdespread
prevalence of sexual assault and harrassment, and many of them have
cited their own personal experiences.

When a sizable number of women, who having worked in the film
industry, come forward with accusations against Harvey Weinstein,
the American film producer, challenging the collective credibility of
the allegations becomes problematic.

It should be remembered that historically, in English common law,
under the doctrine of coverture, a woman was legally considered the
chattel of her husband, his possession, and married women technically
had almost no legal identity.

Although an unmarried woman had a right to own property and make
contracts in her own name, much of coveture's influence affected them
adversely as well.

That begin to change in the 19th and 20th centuries, as economic and
socio-political conditions required greater flexibility for women.

Nevertheless, women continue to be hindered by coverture's legacy up
to the modern day in matters of employment.

Interesting side note: a queen of England, whether she was queen
consort or queen regnant, was generally exempted from the legal
requirements of coverture, as understood by Blackstone, the English
jurist who wrote "Commentaries on the Laws of England."
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
So the public is at the mercy of those who operate medical schools
"with motives other than curing disease" plus their ensuing
"manipulation and control" of the same?
I don't think those who attend medical schools are in on it -- just
those who create policy. Somehow they are influencing society's
perceptions and creating a system where money rules rather than
healing.
Normal doctors just go along with what they think is the only system
that works. they are victims same as people who go along to see them.
The medical system has all sorts of standards for treating this and
that, what it considers normal and abnormal, that aren't necessarily
correct.
A person can't trust mainstream to treat anything correctly and people
need to do their own research.
And this is one reason I don't blame the unemployed or the uneducated
for their situation. The system is not working to help people and if
somebody has to spend their whole lives working out their health, or
some other issue they have, because mainstream isn't helpful, then I
don't hold it against them. The amount of time and money that goes
into "educating" doctors you'd think they would be able to diagnose
correctly, anticipate and correct disease conditions before they
became an issue. Because they are so inefficient and incompetent and
unable to get to the root cause of people's ailments, they are people
to be wary of rather than trust.
A little knowledge
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 05:04:04 +1100, A little knowledge
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 21:28:39 +1100, A little knowledge
Post by A little knowledge
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Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time. They enjoy
string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it for who
knows how long.
There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby. They all get together and manipulate the
masses. eg they like to keep the people ignorant and dependent on
anything that can make them money - such as fossil fuels rather than
free energy devices that produce lots of energy once a person has the
original piece of machinery. I have heard stories of cars that can run
on water, but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with. Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run
on water as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't work
or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
A letter by 100 French women writers, performers and academics,
published in France's Le Monde newspaper on Tuesday, stated as
"Rape is a crime, but trying to seduce someone, even persistently or
clumsily, is not - and nor is men being gentlemanly a chauvinist
attack."
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jan/09/catherine-deneuve-men-should-be-free-hit-on-women-harvey-weinstein-scandal?CMP=share_btn_tw
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2018/01/10/la-tribune-de-deneuve-fait-reagir-au-dela-des-frontieres_5240067_3224.html#
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/why-did-catherine-deneuve-and-other-prominent-frenchwomen-denounce-metoo
Do you agree with their view?
I agree with their view.
Note this is France, not US or Australia - and its good that you've
done so much research. I actually heard this on the news somewhere
that a group of women in France including the famour Catherine
Denievre, were speaking out on the matter.
Things are becoming ridiculous where every man that has ever looked at
women the wrong way is being targeted as inappropriate sexual
advances. Who cares, and as if there aren't more important things
going on in the world, such as homelessness and poverty.
Homelessness and poverty are certianly important problems, as is the
the possibility of war with North Korea, among others.
The women within the "MeToo" movement suggest that there is wdespread
prevalence of sexual assault and harrassment, and many of them have
cited their own personal experiences.
When a sizable number of women, who having worked in the film
industry, come forward with accusations against Harvey Weinstein,
the American film producer, challenging the collective credibility of
the allegations becomes problematic.
It should be remembered that historically, in English common law,
under the doctrine of coverture, a woman was legally considered the
chattel of her husband, his possession, and married women technically
had almost no legal identity.
Although an unmarried woman had a right to own property and make
contracts in her own name, much of coveture's influence affected them
adversely as well.
That begin to change in the 19th and 20th centuries, as economic and
socio-political conditions required greater flexibility for women.
Nevertheless, women continue to be hindered by coverture's legacy up
to the modern day in matters of employment.
Interesting side note: a queen of England, whether she was queen
consort or queen regnant, was generally exempted from the legal
requirements of coverture, as understood by Blackstone, the English
jurist who wrote "Commentaries on the Laws of England."
Interesting. I hadn't heard about coverture.
There's no doubt women have had certain rights denied to them that men
have not. However, OTOH men generally don't live as long as women and
women are protected to a certain extent. Men generally do the hard and
dirty work until mechanisation and technology began to take over. This
is when women have decided that they are as good as equal.

Women are also being taken into the armed forces to do the work that
men do, although I don't think they'd go as well as men in arm-to-arm
combat. As long as its weapons and button pushing they're ok though.

Men have some physical and psychological advantages over women, and
vice versa. The sexes aren't exactly the same.
On the one hand you have guys that take advantage of women, but on the
other hand you have women who take advantage of men. Some women use
men and this in a way is as bad as men taking advantage of women.

So if the tables were turned and men could begin to sue women for
taking advantage of them, and the cases could be equally valid.

Yes, its good that women can buy a house in their own name, or work
after marriage etc but feminism can go a bit too far at times.


--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing


"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."


Circular reasoning, also known as 'Begging the question'
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
eg of Begging the Question
Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God [and god never lies]"


Is Big Pharma Addicted To Fraud?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/


Patents Over Patients
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/opinion/01moss.html
"We could make faster progress against cancer by changing the way
drugs are developed. In the current system, if a promising compound
can’t be patented, it is highly unlikely ever to make it to market"



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Post by A little knowledge
Interesting. I hadn't heard about coverture.
A DOZEN large libraries could be filled with what YOU haven't heard
of, THEN you'd still have a BUNCH of info left over.
Post by A little knowledge
There's no doubt women have had certain rights denied to them that men
have not.
Not AT ALL true. Some societies restricted men from things,
others restricted women.

The English severely restricted the rights of Catholic male children
to inherit their family real property, in an effort to force them to
convert to Protestantism. That was just ONE thing the English tried.
Philip
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Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time.
How did you come to the conclusion that they are sociopaths?
Post by A little knowledge
They enjoy string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it
for who knows how long.
How do you know that?
Post by A little knowledge
There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby.
Then what hope do the remnant, other than the "sociopaths" and
"psychpaths" who are lodged "at the top," have for a better life?
Post by A little knowledge
They all get together and manipulate the masses. eg they like to keep
the people ignorant and dependent on anything that can make them
money - such as fossil fuels rather than free energy devices that
produce lots of energy once a person has the original piece of
machinery.
There are "free energy devices?"
What are they, and where can they be had?
Post by A little knowledge
I have heard stories of cars that can run on water,
Well, how credible are those stories?
Post by A little knowledge
but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with.
Who are those inventors?
Have you tried contacting one of them?
Post by A little knowledge
Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run on water
as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't
work or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
How did you come to know the true story about those things?
Post by A little knowledge
The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
But you don't seem manipulated or dumbed down.
How did you avoid that fate?
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
How do you avoid fluoride in Oz, when it's in the munipcipal water
systems? Don't you cook and wash with it?
Philip
2018-01-11 12:31:17 UTC
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 21:28:39 +1100, A little knowledge
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time.
How did you come to the conclusion that they are sociopaths?
Post by A little knowledge
They enjoy string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it
for who knows how long.
How do you know that?
Post by A little knowledge
There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby.
Then what hope do the remnant, other than the "sociopaths" and
"psychpaths" who are lodged "at the top," have for a better life?
Post by A little knowledge
They all get together and manipulate the masses. eg they like to keep
the people ignorant and dependent on anything that can make them
money - such as fossil fuels rather than free energy devices that
produce lots of energy once a person has the original piece of
machinery.
There are "free energy devices?"
What are they, and where can they be had?
Post by A little knowledge
I have heard stories of cars that can run on water,
Well, how credible are those stories?
Post by A little knowledge
but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with.
Who are those inventors?
Have you tried contacting one of them?
Post by A little knowledge
Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run on water
as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't
work or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
How did you come to know the true story about those things?
Post by A little knowledge
The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
But you don't seem manipulated or dumbed down.
How did you avoid that fate?
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
How do you avoid fluoride in Oz, when it's in the munipcipal water
systems? Don't you cook and wash with it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_in_Australia
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Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
I LOVED the reply some years go about World COntrol, by a high-ranking
Mason.

He said "We can't agree on what to order for lunch, HOW can we
consider controlling the world??"
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
They all get together and manipulate the masses. eg they like to keep
the people ignorant and dependent on anything that can make them
money - such as fossil fuels rather than free energy devices that
produce lots of energy once a person has the original piece of
machinery.
There are "free energy devices?"
What are they, and where can they be had?
You HAVE to understand that conspiracy nuts DON'T think such devices
don't exist, but that they DO EXIST but only for those special
insiders who get the best stuff.

Their TOTAL lack of ability to understand science (as WELL as their
lack of desire to understand it) means that science seems like magic
to them.
Philip
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Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
I LOVED the reply some years go about World COntrol, by a high-ranking
Mason.
He said "We can't agree on what to order for lunch, HOW can we
consider controlling the world??"
+1
Post by m***@privacy.net
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
They all get together and manipulate the masses. eg they like to keep
the people ignorant and dependent on anything that can make them
money - such as fossil fuels rather than free energy devices that
produce lots of energy once a person has the original piece of
machinery.
There are "free energy devices?"
What are they, and where can they be had?
You HAVE to understand that conspiracy nuts DON'T think such devices
don't exist, but that they DO EXIST but only for those special
insiders who get the best stuff.
Their TOTAL lack of ability to understand science (as WELL as their
lack of desire to understand it) means that science seems like magic
to them.
A little knowledge
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Post by Philip
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 21:28:39 +1100, A little knowledge
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time.
How did you come to the conclusion that they are sociopaths?
What do you think they are?
Post by Philip
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
They enjoy string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it
for who knows how long.
How do you know that?
Manipulation and control through propaganda - manipulation of the
masses through religion or whatever.
Post by Philip
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby.
Then what hope do the remnant, other than the "sociopaths" and
"psychpaths" who are lodged "at the top," have for a better life?
Good question.
Post by Philip
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
They all get together and manipulate the masses. eg they like to keep
the people ignorant and dependent on anything that can make them
money - such as fossil fuels rather than free energy devices that
produce lots of energy once a person has the original piece of
machinery.
There are "free energy devices?"
What are they, and where can they be had?
You only have to search the internet.
Post by Philip
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
I have heard stories of cars that can run on water,
Well, how credible are those stories?
As credible as the stories that say its can't be done.
Post by Philip
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with.
Who are those inventors?
Have you tried contacting one of them?
I believe it.
Once there is a commodity that can be made money from, all
alternatives are sidelines and put out of action.
Post by Philip
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run on water
as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't
work or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
How did you come to know the true story about those things?
Post by A little knowledge
The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
But you don't seem manipulated or dumbed down.
How did you avoid that fate?
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Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
How do you avoid fluoride in Oz, when it's in the munipcipal water
systems? Don't you cook and wash with it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_in_Australia
You can't avoid fluoride - so in that regard since it is forced on the
Australian public, I don't hold anything resulting from fluoride
poisoning against them. It is those who have decided policy who are
the culprits.
People have a fulltime job trying to work out all this stuff. How does
a person get ahead in life when they have so many things working
against them?

I think calcium is an antidote myself - but this may or may not be
true or may not be the full solution - more research required.



--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing


"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."


Circular reasoning, also known as 'Begging the question'
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
eg of Begging the Question
Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God [and god never lies]"


Is Big Pharma Addicted To Fraud?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/


Patents Over Patients
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/opinion/01moss.html
"We could make faster progress against cancer by changing the way
drugs are developed. In the current system, if a promising compound
can’t be patented, it is highly unlikely ever to make it to market"



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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
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Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time.
How did you come to the conclusion that they are sociopaths?
What do you think they are?
I don't care to stereotype an entire group of people.

Men and women who are in positions of setitng policy or operating
influential organizations are individuals. I prefer to judge them
on a case by case basis, by reviewing what they've done.

In layman's terms, a sociopath and psychopath are closely related,
each viewed as an unstable and aggressive person.

In each case, there are behaviors that prompt those labels, most
notably violent anti-social behavior.

I've never met or known an influencial "person at the top" who
displayed that type ofl behavior and continued to remain employed at
that position. Those types of individuals rarely work in isolation.
There are always people around who observe or report what they do.

That's why I asked you about how you arrived at your characterizaton
of "sociopaths at the top."
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Post by Philip
Post by Philip
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They enjoy string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it
for who knows how long.
How do you know that?
Manipulation and control through propaganda - manipulation of the
masses through religion or whatever.
I don't know anyone who is manipulated and controlled.

The people I've met seem in command of what they choose to do, sorting
through what they read or hear, and making decisions in their best
interest. That includes people I know who practice mainstream
religion.

Do you know people who have been manipulated?
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby.
Then what hope do the remnant, other than the "sociopaths" and
"psychpaths" who are lodged "at the top," have for a better life?
Good question.
I am interested in reading your answer.
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
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They all get together and manipulate the masses. eg they like to keep
the people ignorant and dependent on anything that can make them
money - such as fossil fuels rather than free energy devices that
produce lots of energy once a person has the original piece of
machinery.
There are "free energy devices?"
What are they, and where can they be had?
You only have to search the internet.
Google is my friend, but the results have produced little that's
credible as a "free energy device."

Perhaps you can cite one of those devices that are worthy
of a second look?
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Post by Philip
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Post by A little knowledge
I have heard stories of cars that can run on water,
Well, how credible are those stories?
As credible as the stories that say its can't be done.
Please enlighten me with a credible story about a car that runs on
water. My friend Google has disappointed me again.
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Post by Philip
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but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with.
Who are those inventors?
Have you tried contacting one of them?
I believe it.
Once there is a commodity that can be made money from, all
alternatives are sidelines and put out of action.
Who is one such inventor?
Will he/she confirm the threat?
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run on water
as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't
work or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
How did you come to know the true story about those things?
Post by A little knowledge
The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
But you don't seem manipulated or dumbed down.
How did you avoid that fate?
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
How do you avoid fluoride in Oz, when it's in the munipcipal water
systems? Don't you cook and wash with it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_in_Australia
You can't avoid fluoride - so in that regard since it is forced on the
Australian public, I don't hold anything resulting from fluoride
poisoning against them. It is those who have decided policy who are
the culprits.
Who are those culpirts (by name)?

Have you considered writing a complaint to your lcoal newspaper?
Post by A little knowledge
People have a fulltime job trying to work out all this stuff. How does
a person get ahead in life when they have so many things working
against them?
They certainly cannot get ahead, when fluoride is so harmful to them.
Post by A little knowledge
I think calcium is an antidote myself - but this may or may not be
true or may not be the full solution - more research required.
I know people who ran into health problems taking calcium supplements.
One developed kidney stones, and the other got heart palpitations.

Their physicians suggested quitting the supplements, but instead
increasing intake of fat-free organic yogurt, spinach, kale, citrus
fruit, and salmon, among other foods.

Their dentists suggested more frequent brushing, particularly after
meals, using toothpastes containing dental-grade baking soda and
peroxide.
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 05:21:15 +1100, A little knowledge
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 21:28:39 +1100, A little knowledge
Post by A little knowledge
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:38:18 -0500, Philip Kaczynski
Post by Philip Kaczynski
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Science psycho
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:38:03 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Science psycho
Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time.
How did you come to the conclusion that they are sociopaths?
What do you think they are?
I don't care to stereotype an entire group of people.
fair enough
Post by Philip
Men and women who are in positions of setitng policy or operating
influential organizations are individuals. I prefer to judge them
on a case by case basis, by reviewing what they've done.
In layman's terms, a sociopath and psychopath are closely related,
each viewed as an unstable and aggressive person.
In each case, there are behaviors that prompt those labels, most
notably violent anti-social behavior.
How do you classify the people who climb over others to get to the
top?
Post by Philip
I've never met or known an influencial "person at the top" who
displayed that type ofl behavior and continued to remain employed at
that position. Those types of individuals rarely work in isolation.
There are always people around who observe or report what they do.
There are people who know how to put on a good front, and how to look
like they are fair and reasonable but underneath it all and in subtle
ways, and for all the "right reasons" play people off against each
other.
There are some people who have no actual scruples of their own. They
just put on a front and appear to have scruples but know how to
manipulate situations.
Post by Philip
That's why I asked you about how you arrived at your characterizaton
of "sociopaths at the top."
This is classic conspiracy theory where it is claimed that the world
is ruled by the hidden hand. Nobody knows exactly who the puppet
masters are but people live in fear of some influence that remains
behind the scenes.
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They enjoy string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it
for who knows how long.
How do you know that?
Manipulation and control through propaganda - manipulation of the
masses through religion or whatever.
I don't know anyone who is manipulated and controlled.
Social engineering is done by think tanks and agents of influence.
It is subtle so that people don't realise that its happening. It all
seems fair and reasonable.
Post by Philip
The people I've met seem in command of what they choose to do, sorting
through what they read or hear, and making decisions in their best
interest. That includes people I know who practice mainstream
religion.
IMO anybody who practices mainstream religion has been conned.
All religions are manmade and designed to keep people under control.
Post by Philip
Do you know people who have been manipulated?
Everybody is manipulated.
It all depends on whether the manipulation or engineering is for good
or ultimately works against a healthy society.
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Post by Philip
Post by Philip
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There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby.
Then what hope do the remnant, other than the "sociopaths" and
"psychpaths" who are lodged "at the top," have for a better life?
Good question.
I am interested in reading your answer.
I don't know people at the very top, or even who they are.
Some say that manipulation of money is a way to control society.
Those who have the gold make the rules.
There are big corporations that ride roughshod over all, can afford
gangs of lawyers, and manipulate policy by changing laws.
And it has also become clear that the world's weath is increasingly
going to fewer and fewer people. The gap between the haves and
have-nots is widening. More poor people, few but exceedingly wealthy
at the top. And the people at the top often use any means to achieve
their wealth, heavy handed tactics to eliminate competition.

The top corporations in the world it has been shown, have interlocking
directorates, where the same people are appearing on different
corporate boards.
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They all get together and manipulate the masses. eg they like to keep
the people ignorant and dependent on anything that can make them
money - such as fossil fuels rather than free energy devices that
produce lots of energy once a person has the original piece of
machinery.
There are "free energy devices?"
What are they, and where can they be had?
You only have to search the internet.
Google is my friend, but the results have produced little that's
credible as a "free energy device."
Mostly it is suppressed information.
Inventors are threatened. Same as with cures for diseases, the cures
are talked down, ridiculed and made illegal.
Post by Philip
Perhaps you can cite one of those devices that are worthy
of a second look?
Only if they can make money for somebody.
If a device can give free energy it is suppressed by some means or
other - maybe "national security" although corporations are running
the planet more than any nations.
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Post by Philip
Post by Philip
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I have heard stories of cars that can run on water,
Well, how credible are those stories?
As credible as the stories that say its can't be done.
Please enlighten me with a credible story about a car that runs on
water. My friend Google has disappointed me again.
Water is split into hydrogen and oxygen which is called brown's gas.
http://www.hho4free.com/browns_gas.htm

You should ask the question why Tesla who invented electricity as we
know it plus a whole heap of things that are the basics of our modern
civilisation, why he doesn't get much mention. After Tesla died a lot
of his manuscripts were spirited away, no doubt because they were not
to be in the public's hands. There are those vested interests who have
too much to lose.
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but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with.
Who are those inventors?
Have you tried contacting one of them?
I believe it.
Once there is a commodity that can be made money from, all
alternatives are sidelines and put out of action.
Who is one such inventor?
Will he/she confirm the threat?
Tesla was going to give free energy to the world and was working on it
when he died. These days energy costs a fortune and it is big money
for oil, electricity and gas. These people don't want the public to
have free energy.
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Philip
Post by A little knowledge
Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run on water
as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't
work or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
How did you come to know the true story about those things?
Post by A little knowledge
The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
But you don't seem manipulated or dumbed down.
How did you avoid that fate?
Post by A little knowledge
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Post by Philip
Post by Science psycho
Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
How do you avoid fluoride in Oz, when it's in the munipcipal water
systems? Don't you cook and wash with it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_in_Australia
You can't avoid fluoride - so in that regard since it is forced on the
Australian public, I don't hold anything resulting from fluoride
poisoning against them. It is those who have decided policy who are
the culprits.
Who are those culpirts (by name)?
Those who wish to keep the people dumbed down.
Fluoride and mercury help to keep people a bit stupid and docile.
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Have you considered writing a complaint to your lcoal newspaper?
Newspapers aren't independent and only write that which is approved by
those who pull the strings. Certain topics are avoided.
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People have a fulltime job trying to work out all this stuff. How does
a person get ahead in life when they have so many things working
against them?
They certainly cannot get ahead, when fluoride is so harmful to them.
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I think calcium is an antidote myself - but this may or may not be
true or may not be the full solution - more research required.
I know people who ran into health problems taking calcium supplements.
One developed kidney stones, and the other got heart palpitations.
Calcium can cause problems - it can make a person constipated or can
give them the runs.
Calcium has to be kept in balance with other minerals such as sodium
and potassium and others. Once it gets out of balance the problems
begin - too much calcium, sodium or potassium can cause problems.
Post by Philip
Their physicians suggested quitting the supplements, but instead
increasing intake of fat-free organic yogurt, spinach, kale, citrus
fruit, and salmon, among other foods.
Their dentists suggested more frequent brushing, particularly after
meals, using toothpastes containing dental-grade baking soda and
peroxide.
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is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."


Circular reasoning, also known as 'Begging the question'
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
eg of Begging the Question
Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God [and god never lies]"


Is Big Pharma Addicted To Fraud?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/


Patents Over Patients
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/opinion/01moss.html
"We could make faster progress against cancer by changing the way
drugs are developed. In the current system, if a promising compound
can’t be patented, it is highly unlikely ever to make it to market"
Philip
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Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time.
How did you come to the conclusion that they are sociopaths?
What do you think they are?
I don't care to stereotype an entire group of people.
fair enough
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Men and women who are in positions of setitng policy or operating
influential organizations are individuals. I prefer to judge them
on a case by case basis, by reviewing what they've done.
In layman's terms, a sociopath and psychopath are closely related,
each viewed as an unstable and aggressive person.
In each case, there are behaviors that prompt those labels, most
notably violent anti-social behavior.
How do you classify the people who climb over others to get to the
top?
That's difficult to answer without knowing the facts and circumstances
for each instance of "people who climb over others to get to the top."

In general, people rise in organizations through organizational job
applicariion protocols and human resource management systems.

Was the process fair and equitable?

By and large, employer-employee relations are governed by the standard
of "employment at will." An employer may hire, promote, or terminate
any person of its choosing, for any reason, or no reason at all,
within limits. Most often those limits are set by laws against
discrimination based on race, color, national origin, gender, age,
religion, familial status (pregnancy), disability.

For the aggrieved employee or job applicant, seeking legal redress
under those protected classes involves showing a valid case and
proving the discrimination.
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I've never met or known an influencial "person at the top" who
displayed that type ofl behavior and continued to remain employed at
that position. Those types of individuals rarely work in isolation.
There are always people around who observe or report what they do.
There are people who know how to put on a good front, and how to look
like they are fair and reasonable but underneath it all and in subtle
ways, and for all the "right reasons" play people off against each
other.
There are some people who have no actual scruples of their own. They
just put on a front and appear to have scruples but know how to
manipulate situations.
It's never easy.

On the other hand, people are often promoted by way of who they know,
assuming a minimum level of required competence.

"Networking" is still considered the best way to find or advance in
employment.
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That's why I asked you about how you arrived at your characterizaton
of "sociopaths at the top."
This is classic conspiracy theory where it is claimed that the world
is ruled by the hidden hand. Nobody knows exactly who the puppet
masters are but people live in fear of some influence that remains
behind the scenes.
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They enjoy string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it
for who knows how long.
How do you know that?
Manipulation and control through propaganda - manipulation of the
masses through religion or whatever.
I don't know anyone who is manipulated and controlled.
Social engineering is done by think tanks and agents of influence.
It is subtle so that people don't realise that its happening. It all
seems fair and reasonable.
What would you propose that the average person do to deal wtih it?
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The people I've met seem in command of what they choose to do, sorting
through what they read or hear, and making decisions in their best
interest. That includes people I know who practice mainstream
religion.
IMO anybody who practices mainstream religion has been conned.
All religions are manmade and designed to keep people under control.
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Do you know people who have been manipulated?
Everybody is manipulated.
It all depends on whether the manipulation or engineering is for good
or ultimately works against a healthy society.
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There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby.
Then what hope do the remnant, other than the "sociopaths" and
"psychpaths" who are lodged "at the top," have for a better life?
Good question.
I am interested in reading your answer.
I don't know people at the very top, or even who they are.
Some say that manipulation of money is a way to control society.
Those who have the gold make the rules.
There are big corporations that ride roughshod over all, can afford
gangs of lawyers, and manipulate policy by changing laws.
And it has also become clear that the world's weath is increasingly
going to fewer and fewer people. The gap between the haves and
have-nots is widening. More poor people, few but exceedingly wealthy
at the top. And the people at the top often use any means to achieve
their wealth, heavy handed tactics to eliminate competition.
The top corporations in the world it has been shown, have interlocking
directorates, where the same people are appearing on different
corporate boards.
Well, that certainly provides an explanation.
But I wonder whether those people at the top are really happy?
Having wealth may help, but by itself, it doesn't guarantee happiness.

No one can make a person unhappy, if a person is secure within himself
and the universe around him, or has found a meaning to his life.
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They all get together and manipulate the masses. eg they like to keep
the people ignorant and dependent on anything that can make them
money - such as fossil fuels rather than free energy devices that
produce lots of energy once a person has the original piece of
machinery.
There are "free energy devices?"
What are they, and where can they be had?
You only have to search the internet.
Google is my friend, but the results have produced little that's
credible as a "free energy device."
Mostly it is suppressed information.
Inventors are threatened. Same as with cures for diseases, the cures
are talked down, ridiculed and made illegal.
What can the average person do about the suppressoin of information?
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Perhaps you can cite one of those devices that are worthy
of a second look?
Only if they can make money for somebody.
If a device can give free energy it is suppressed by some means or
other - maybe "national security" although corporations are running
the planet more than any nations.
Sounds like the entrepreneurial spirit.
Has mankind ever not been that way?
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I have heard stories of cars that can run on water,
Well, how credible are those stories?
As credible as the stories that say its can't be done.
Please enlighten me with a credible story about a car that runs on
water. My friend Google has disappointed me again.
Water is split into hydrogen and oxygen which is called brown's gas.
http://www.hho4free.com/browns_gas.htm
You should ask the question why Tesla who invented electricity as we
know it plus a whole heap of things that are the basics of our modern
civilisation, why he doesn't get much mention. After Tesla died a lot
of his manuscripts were spirited away, no doubt because they were not
to be in the public's hands. There are those vested interests who have
too much to lose.
Not to discount your thought, but I don't believe it.
It's not consistent with my life experience.

If something is free, then it gets out there and anyone can get it.
If something is useful, then someone finds a way to bring it to market
at an affordable price so people can buy it.

Vested interests can't keep free things hidden.
Someone always lets the cat out of the bag.

Vested interests don't hide something that has profit potential.
They develop it so money can be made.

There's an earlybird "free happy hour" at the local bar-n-grill this
afternoon. If I get there after 4 pm, I can get two free 12 ounce
Bud Lights until 5 pm. After 5 pm, if I buy a fried fish dinner,
I can get two more Bud Lgihts for half price each. The price of the
fish dinner is not inflated from it's normal price.

The bar owner makes up for the free beer he gives away because
many people show up and buy his fish dinner plus the discounted beer.
Many stay a little longer and buy beer at the usual price. He makes
a profit, and the bar patrons are happy.

That's the kind of free that I may enounter.
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but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with.
Who are those inventors?
Have you tried contacting one of them?
I believe it.
Once there is a commodity that can be made money from, all
alternatives are sidelines and put out of action.
Who is one such inventor?
Will he/she confirm the threat?
Tesla was going to give free energy to the world and was working on it
when he died. These days energy costs a fortune and it is big money
for oil, electricity and gas. These people don't want the public to
have free energy.
Poor Tesla got schnookered.
He died poor and ill with no family or friends around him.

But I just can't believe he had "free energy."
And if he did, I don't believe it's been hidden away so no one else
can use it.

Call me brain-washed or dumbed down.
But it's not the way I know life works.
And I'm happy with that.
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Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run on water
as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't
work or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
How did you come to know the true story about those things?
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The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
But you don't seem manipulated or dumbed down.
How did you avoid that fate?
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they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
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Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
How do you avoid fluoride in Oz, when it's in the munipcipal water
systems? Don't you cook and wash with it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_in_Australia
You can't avoid fluoride - so in that regard since it is forced on the
Australian public, I don't hold anything resulting from fluoride
poisoning against them. It is those who have decided policy who are
the culprits.
Who are those culpirts (by name)?
Those who wish to keep the people dumbed down.
Fluoride and mercury help to keep people a bit stupid and docile.
I am okay with fluoride in my water and toothpaste.
Doesn't affect me at all.

I avoid mercury if I know it's there.
I avoid breaking some newer light bulbs because they may have some
mercury.

I limit how often I have a tuna sandwich for lunch.

Vaccines used to have mercury in them but now they don't.

I noticed no ill effects from the vaccines I got that had a tiny
amount of mercuy as preservative.

I'm happy I've been getting the flu vaccine every season.

Twenty one people have died this season from the flu in my county.
None of the were vaccinated for the flu.

I'm relieved no one from my family or circle of friends got the flu.
I made sure all got vaccinated last fall.

If that makes me dumbed down, then so be it.
Life is good.
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Have you considered writing a complaint to your lcoal newspaper?
Newspapers aren't independent and only write that which is approved by
those who pull the strings. Certain topics are avoided.
Good thing your posts here and on your blogs are not censored.

Good thing you're not about to be sent to some gulag for your
expressed views.

It's good that you post in this ng, Carole.

Stay young and be healthy.
You have much to contribute.
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People have a fulltime job trying to work out all this stuff. How does
a person get ahead in life when they have so many things working
against them?
They certainly cannot get ahead, when fluoride is so harmful to them.
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I think calcium is an antidote myself - but this may or may not be
true or may not be the full solution - more research required.
I know people who ran into health problems taking calcium supplements.
One developed kidney stones, and the other got heart palpitations.
Calcium can cause problems - it can make a person constipated or can
give them the runs.
Calcium has to be kept in balance with other minerals such as sodium
and potassium and others. Once it gets out of balance the problems
begin - too much calcium, sodium or potassium can cause problems.
Post by Philip
Their physicians suggested quitting the supplements, but instead
increasing intake of fat-free organic yogurt, spinach, kale, citrus
fruit, and salmon, among other foods.
Their dentists suggested more frequent brushing, particularly after
meals, using toothpastes containing dental-grade baking soda and
peroxide.
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Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary
community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don’t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time.
How did you come to the conclusion that they are sociopaths?
What do you think they are?
I don't care to stereotype an entire group of people.
fair enough
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Men and women who are in positions of setitng policy or operating
influential organizations are individuals. I prefer to judge them
on a case by case basis, by reviewing what they've done.
In layman's terms, a sociopath and psychopath are closely related,
each viewed as an unstable and aggressive person.
In each case, there are behaviors that prompt those labels, most
notably violent anti-social behavior.
How do you classify the people who climb over others to get to the
top?
That's difficult to answer without knowing the facts and circumstances
for each instance of "people who climb over others to get to the top."
In general, people rise in organizations through organizational job
applicariion protocols and human resource management systems.
Was the process fair and equitable?
By and large, employer-employee relations are governed by the standard
of "employment at will." An employer may hire, promote, or terminate
any person of its choosing, for any reason, or no reason at all,
within limits. Most often those limits are set by laws against
discrimination based on race, color, national origin, gender, age,
religion, familial status (pregnancy), disability.
For the aggrieved employee or job applicant, seeking legal redress
under those protected classes involves showing a valid case and
proving the discrimination.
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I've never met or known an influencial "person at the top" who
displayed that type ofl behavior and continued to remain employed at
that position. Those types of individuals rarely work in isolation.
There are always people around who observe or report what they do.
There are people who know how to put on a good front, and how to look
like they are fair and reasonable but underneath it all and in subtle
ways, and for all the "right reasons" play people off against each
other.
There are some people who have no actual scruples of their own. They
just put on a front and appear to have scruples but know how to
manipulate situations.
It's never easy.
On the other hand, people are often promoted by way of who they know,
assuming a minimum level of required competence.
"Networking" is still considered the best way to find or advance in
employment.
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That's why I asked you about how you arrived at your characterizaton
of "sociopaths at the top."
This is classic conspiracy theory where it is claimed that the world
is ruled by the hidden hand. Nobody knows exactly who the puppet
masters are but people live in fear of some influence that remains
behind the scenes.
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They enjoy string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it
for who knows how long.
How do you know that?
Manipulation and control through propaganda - manipulation of the
masses through religion or whatever.
I don't know anyone who is manipulated and controlled.
Social engineering is done by think tanks and agents of influence.
It is subtle so that people don't realise that its happening. It all
seems fair and reasonable.
What would you propose that the average person do to deal wtih it?
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The people I've met seem in command of what they choose to do, sorting
through what they read or hear, and making decisions in their best
interest. That includes people I know who practice mainstream
religion.
IMO anybody who practices mainstream religion has been conned.
All religions are manmade and designed to keep people under control.
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Do you know people who have been manipulated?
Everybody is manipulated.
It all depends on whether the manipulation or engineering is for good
or ultimately works against a healthy society.
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There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby.
Then what hope do the remnant, other than the "sociopaths" and
"psychpaths" who are lodged "at the top," have for a better life?
Good question.
I am interested in reading your answer.
I don't know people at the very top, or even who they are.
Some say that manipulation of money is a way to control society.
Those who have the gold make the rules.
There are big corporations that ride roughshod over all, can afford
gangs of lawyers, and manipulate policy by changing laws.
And it has also become clear that the world's weath is increasingly
going to fewer and fewer people. The gap between the haves and
have-nots is widening. More poor people, few but exceedingly wealthy
at the top. And the people at the top often use any means to achieve
their wealth, heavy handed tactics to eliminate competition.
The top corporations in the world it has been shown, have interlocking
directorates, where the same people are appearing on different
corporate boards.
Well, that certainly provides an explanation.
But I wonder whether those people at the top are really happy?
Having wealth may help, but by itself, it doesn't guarantee happiness.
No one can make a person unhappy, if a person is secure within himself
and the universe around him, or has found a meaning to his life.
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They all get together and manipulate the masses. eg they like to keep
the people ignorant and dependent on anything that can make them
money - such as fossil fuels rather than free energy devices that
produce lots of energy once a person has the original piece of
machinery.
There are "free energy devices?"
What are they, and where can they be had?
You only have to search the internet.
Google is my friend, but the results have produced little that's
credible as a "free energy device."
Mostly it is suppressed information.
Inventors are threatened. Same as with cures for diseases, the cures
are talked down, ridiculed and made illegal.
What can the average person do about the suppressoin of information?
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Perhaps you can cite one of those devices that are worthy
of a second look?
Only if they can make money for somebody.
If a device can give free energy it is suppressed by some means or
other - maybe "national security" although corporations are running
the planet more than any nations.
Sounds like the entrepreneurial spirit.
Has mankind ever not been that way?
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I have heard stories of cars that can run on water,
Well, how credible are those stories?
As credible as the stories that say its can't be done.
Please enlighten me with a credible story about a car that runs on
water. My friend Google has disappointed me again.
Water is split into hydrogen and oxygen which is called brown's gas.
http://www.hho4free.com/browns_gas.htm
You should ask the question why Tesla who invented electricity as we
know it plus a whole heap of things that are the basics of our modern
civilisation, why he doesn't get much mention. After Tesla died a lot
of his manuscripts were spirited away, no doubt because they were not
to be in the public's hands. There are those vested interests who have
too much to lose.
Not to discount your thought, but I don't believe it.
It's not consistent with my life experience.
If something is free, then it gets out there and anyone can get it.
If something is useful, then someone finds a way to bring it to market
at an affordable price so people can buy it.
Vested interests can't keep free things hidden.
Someone always lets the cat out of the bag.
Vested interests don't hide something that has profit potential.
They develop it so money can be made.
There's an earlybird "free happy hour" at the local bar-n-grill this
afternoon. If I get there after 4 pm, I can get two free 12 ounce
Bud Lights until 5 pm. After 5 pm, if I buy a fried fish dinner,
I can get two more Bud Lgihts for half price each. The price of the
fish dinner is not inflated from it's normal price.
The bar owner makes up for the free beer he gives away because
many people show up and buy his fish dinner plus the discounted beer.
Many stay a little longer and buy beer at the usual price. He makes
a profit, and the bar patrons are happy.
That's the kind of free that I may enounter.
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but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with.
Who are those inventors?
Have you tried contacting one of them?
I believe it.
Once there is a commodity that can be made money from, all
alternatives are sidelines and put out of action.
Who is one such inventor?
Will he/she confirm the threat?
Tesla was going to give free energy to the world and was working on it
when he died. These days energy costs a fortune and it is big money
for oil, electricity and gas. These people don't want the public to
have free energy.
Poor Tesla got schnookered.
He died poor and ill with no family or friends around him.
But I just can't believe he had "free energy."
And if he did, I don't believe it's been hidden away so no one else
can use it.
Call me brain-washed or dumbed down.
But it's not the way I know life works.
And I'm happy with that.
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Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run on water
as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't
work or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
How did you come to know the true story about those things?
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The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
But you don't seem manipulated or dumbed down.
How did you avoid that fate?
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they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
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Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
How do you avoid fluoride in Oz, when it's in the munipcipal water
systems? Don't you cook and wash with it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_in_Australia
You can't avoid fluoride - so in that regard since it is forced on the
Australian public, I don't hold anything resulting from fluoride
poisoning against them. It is those who have decided policy who are
the culprits.
Who are those culpirts (by name)?
Those who wish to keep the people dumbed down.
Fluoride and mercury help to keep people a bit stupid and docile.
I am okay with fluoride in my water and toothpaste.
Doesn't affect me at all.
I avoid mercury if I know it's there.
I avoid breaking some newer light bulbs because they may have some
mercury.
I limit how often I have a tuna sandwich for lunch.
Vaccines used to have mercury in them but now they don't.
I noticed no ill effects from the vaccines I got that had a tiny
amount of mercuy as preservative.
I'm happy I've been getting the flu vaccine every season.
Twenty one people have died this season from the flu in my county.
None of the were vaccinated for the flu.
I'm relieved no one from my family or circle of friends got the flu.
I made sure all got vaccinated last fall.
If that makes me dumbed down, then so be it.
Life is good.
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Have you considered writing a complaint to your lcoal newspaper?
Newspapers aren't independent and only write that which is approved by
those who pull the strings. Certain topics are avoided.
Good thing your posts here and on your blogs are not censored.
Good thing you're not about to be sent to some gulag for your
expressed views.
It's good that you post in this ng, Carole.
Stay young and be healthy.
You have much to contribute.
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People have a fulltime job trying to work out all this stuff. How does
a person get ahead in life when they have so many things working
against them?
They certainly cannot get ahead, when fluoride is so harmful to them.
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I think calcium is an antidote myself - but this may or may not be
true or may not be the full solution - more research required.
I know people who ran into health problems taking calcium supplements.
One developed kidney stones, and the other got heart palpitations.
Calcium can cause problems - it can make a person constipated or can
give them the runs.
Calcium has to be kept in balance with other minerals such as sodium
and potassium and others. Once it gets out of balance the problems
begin - too much calcium, sodium or potassium can cause problems.
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Their physicians suggested quitting the supplements, but instead
increasing intake of fat-free organic yogurt, spinach, kale, citrus
fruit, and salmon, among other foods.
Their dentists suggested more frequent brushing, particularly after
meals, using toothpastes containing dental-grade baking soda and
peroxide.
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Philip you do realize Carole a bit on the mentally disturbed side. She will
lead off a topic and quick as you debunk one claim she will jump to another
by asking "what about the shiny distracting subject here". She may even do
it several times with over a thread without ever admitting to herself you
debunked her initial premise.

Carole also,uses many socks in an attempt that there is a group of people
which support alternative medicine. There is only,one person her and that
is Carole which supports quackery in general.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Philip
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Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on the
use of complementary and alternative medicine focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary
community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don?t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time.
How did you come to the conclusion that they are sociopaths?
What do you think they are?
I don't care to stereotype an entire group of people.
fair enough
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Men and women who are in positions of setitng policy or operating
influential organizations are individuals. I prefer to judge them
on a case by case basis, by reviewing what they've done.
In layman's terms, a sociopath and psychopath are closely related,
each viewed as an unstable and aggressive person.
In each case, there are behaviors that prompt those labels, most
notably violent anti-social behavior.
How do you classify the people who climb over others to get to the
top?
That's difficult to answer without knowing the facts and circumstances
for each instance of "people who climb over others to get to the top."
In general, people rise in organizations through organizational job
applicariion protocols and human resource management systems.
Was the process fair and equitable?
By and large, employer-employee relations are governed by the standard
of "employment at will." An employer may hire, promote, or terminate
any person of its choosing, for any reason, or no reason at all,
within limits. Most often those limits are set by laws against
discrimination based on race, color, national origin, gender, age,
religion, familial status (pregnancy), disability.
For the aggrieved employee or job applicant, seeking legal redress
under those protected classes involves showing a valid case and
proving the discrimination.
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I've never met or known an influencial "person at the top" who
displayed that type ofl behavior and continued to remain employed at
that position. Those types of individuals rarely work in isolation.
There are always people around who observe or report what they do.
There are people who know how to put on a good front, and how to look
like they are fair and reasonable but underneath it all and in subtle
ways, and for all the "right reasons" play people off against each
other.
There are some people who have no actual scruples of their own. They
just put on a front and appear to have scruples but know how to
manipulate situations.
It's never easy.
On the other hand, people are often promoted by way of who they know,
assuming a minimum level of required competence.
"Networking" is still considered the best way to find or advance in
employment.
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That's why I asked you about how you arrived at your characterizaton
of "sociopaths at the top."
This is classic conspiracy theory where it is claimed that the world
is ruled by the hidden hand. Nobody knows exactly who the puppet
masters are but people live in fear of some influence that remains
behind the scenes.
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They enjoy string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it
for who knows how long.
How do you know that?
Manipulation and control through propaganda - manipulation of the
masses through religion or whatever.
I don't know anyone who is manipulated and controlled.
Social engineering is done by think tanks and agents of influence.
It is subtle so that people don't realise that its happening. It all
seems fair and reasonable.
What would you propose that the average person do to deal wtih it?
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The people I've met seem in command of what they choose to do, sorting
through what they read or hear, and making decisions in their best
interest. That includes people I know who practice mainstream
religion.
IMO anybody who practices mainstream religion has been conned.
All religions are manmade and designed to keep people under control.
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Do you know people who have been manipulated?
Everybody is manipulated.
It all depends on whether the manipulation or engineering is for good
or ultimately works against a healthy society.
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There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby.
Then what hope do the remnant, other than the "sociopaths" and
"psychpaths" who are lodged "at the top," have for a better life?
Good question.
I am interested in reading your answer.
I don't know people at the very top, or even who they are.
Some say that manipulation of money is a way to control society.
Those who have the gold make the rules.
There are big corporations that ride roughshod over all, can afford
gangs of lawyers, and manipulate policy by changing laws.
And it has also become clear that the world's weath is increasingly
going to fewer and fewer people. The gap between the haves and
have-nots is widening. More poor people, few but exceedingly wealthy
at the top. And the people at the top often use any means to achieve
their wealth, heavy handed tactics to eliminate competition.
The top corporations in the world it has been shown, have interlocking
directorates, where the same people are appearing on different
corporate boards.
Well, that certainly provides an explanation.
But I wonder whether those people at the top are really happy?
Having wealth may help, but by itself, it doesn't guarantee happiness.
No one can make a person unhappy, if a person is secure within himself
and the universe around him, or has found a meaning to his life.
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They all get together and manipulate the masses. eg they like to keep
the people ignorant and dependent on anything that can make them
money - such as fossil fuels rather than free energy devices that
produce lots of energy once a person has the original piece of
machinery.
There are "free energy devices?"
What are they, and where can they be had?
You only have to search the internet.
Google is my friend, but the results have produced little that's
credible as a "free energy device."
Mostly it is suppressed information.
Inventors are threatened. Same as with cures for diseases, the cures
are talked down, ridiculed and made illegal.
What can the average person do about the suppressoin of information?
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Perhaps you can cite one of those devices that are worthy
of a second look?
Only if they can make money for somebody.
If a device can give free energy it is suppressed by some means or
other - maybe "national security" although corporations are running
the planet more than any nations.
Sounds like the entrepreneurial spirit.
Has mankind ever not been that way?
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I have heard stories of cars that can run on water,
Well, how credible are those stories?
As credible as the stories that say its can't be done.
Please enlighten me with a credible story about a car that runs on
water. My friend Google has disappointed me again.
Water is split into hydrogen and oxygen which is called brown's gas.
http://www.hho4free.com/browns_gas.htm
You should ask the question why Tesla who invented electricity as we
know it plus a whole heap of things that are the basics of our modern
civilisation, why he doesn't get much mention. After Tesla died a lot
of his manuscripts were spirited away, no doubt because they were not
to be in the public's hands. There are those vested interests who have
too much to lose.
Not to discount your thought, but I don't believe it.
It's not consistent with my life experience.
If something is free, then it gets out there and anyone can get it.
If something is useful, then someone finds a way to bring it to market
at an affordable price so people can buy it.
Vested interests can't keep free things hidden.
Someone always lets the cat out of the bag.
Vested interests don't hide something that has profit potential.
They develop it so money can be made.
There's an earlybird "free happy hour" at the local bar-n-grill this
afternoon. If I get there after 4 pm, I can get two free 12 ounce
Bud Lights until 5 pm. After 5 pm, if I buy a fried fish dinner,
I can get two more Bud Lgihts for half price each. The price of the
fish dinner is not inflated from it's normal price.
The bar owner makes up for the free beer he gives away because
many people show up and buy his fish dinner plus the discounted beer.
Many stay a little longer and buy beer at the usual price. He makes
a profit, and the bar patrons are happy.
That's the kind of free that I may enounter.
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but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with.
Who are those inventors?
Have you tried contacting one of them?
I believe it.
Once there is a commodity that can be made money from, all
alternatives are sidelines and put out of action.
Who is one such inventor?
Will he/she confirm the threat?
Tesla was going to give free energy to the world and was working on it
when he died. These days energy costs a fortune and it is big money
for oil, electricity and gas. These people don't want the public to
have free energy.
Poor Tesla got schnookered.
He died poor and ill with no family or friends around him.
But I just can't believe he had "free energy."
And if he did, I don't believe it's been hidden away so no one else
can use it.
Call me brain-washed or dumbed down.
But it's not the way I know life works.
And I'm happy with that.
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Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run on water
as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't
work or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
How did you come to know the true story about those things?
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The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
But you don't seem manipulated or dumbed down.
How did you avoid that fate?
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they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
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Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
How do you avoid fluoride in Oz, when it's in the munipcipal water
systems? Don't you cook and wash with it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_in_Australia
You can't avoid fluoride - so in that regard since it is forced on the
Australian public, I don't hold anything resulting from fluoride
poisoning against them. It is those who have decided policy who are
the culprits.
Who are those culpirts (by name)?
Those who wish to keep the people dumbed down.
Fluoride and mercury help to keep people a bit stupid and docile.
I am okay with fluoride in my water and toothpaste.
Doesn't affect me at all.
I avoid mercury if I know it's there.
I avoid breaking some newer light bulbs because they may have some
mercury.
I limit how often I have a tuna sandwich for lunch.
Vaccines used to have mercury in them but now they don't.
I noticed no ill effects from the vaccines I got that had a tiny
amount of mercuy as preservative.
I'm happy I've been getting the flu vaccine every season.
Twenty one people have died this season from the flu in my county.
None of the were vaccinated for the flu.
I'm relieved no one from my family or circle of friends got the flu.
I made sure all got vaccinated last fall.
If that makes me dumbed down, then so be it.
Life is good.
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Have you considered writing a complaint to your lcoal newspaper?
Newspapers aren't independent and only write that which is approved by
those who pull the strings. Certain topics are avoided.
Good thing your posts here and on your blogs are not censored.
Good thing you're not about to be sent to some gulag for your
expressed views.
It's good that you post in this ng, Carole.
Stay young and be healthy.
You have much to contribute.
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People have a fulltime job trying to work out all this stuff. How does
a person get ahead in life when they have so many things working
against them?
They certainly cannot get ahead, when fluoride is so harmful to them.
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I think calcium is an antidote myself - but this may or may not be
true or may not be the full solution - more research required.
I know people who ran into health problems taking calcium supplements.
One developed kidney stones, and the other got heart palpitations.
Calcium can cause problems - it can make a person constipated or can
give them the runs.
Calcium has to be kept in balance with other minerals such as sodium
and potassium and others. Once it gets out of balance the problems
begin - too much calcium, sodium or potassium can cause problems.
Post by Philip
Their physicians suggested quitting the supplements, but instead
increasing intake of fat-free organic yogurt, spinach, kale, citrus
fruit, and salmon, among other foods.
Their dentists suggested more frequent brushing, particularly after
meals, using toothpastes containing dental-grade baking soda and
peroxide.
Philip you do realize Carole a bit on the mentally disturbed side. She will
lead off a topic and quick as you debunk one claim she will jump to another
by asking "what about the shiny distracting subject here". She may even do
it several times with over a thread without ever admitting to herself you
debunked her initial premise.
Carole also,uses many socks in an attempt that there is a group of people
which support alternative medicine. There is only,one person her and that
is Carole which supports quackery in general.
Bob, I'm aware of all those things.
Usenet seems to display a complete range of views, so buyer beware.
Using one of those hackneyed phrases heard in some circles, she is who
she is. I'd rather just engage her as she presents herself. I trust
the marketplace of ideas will take care of the rest. I don't believe
she's misled anyone.

You gotta admit, Bob - this ng would be different without her.
That may be like saying that mankind would be different without
influenza, but life is far from perfect. ;-)

Have you been able to connect with anyone near North Korea with ham
radio? with anyone in Oz?
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Homeopathy superior to conventional pharmaceutical drugs - AND WITHOUT
SIDE EFFECTS. What a shame big pharma can't patent homeopathic drugs!
Swiss government report declares homeopathy is 'cost effective' in
treating patients
Sunday, April 29, 2012 by: Dana Ullman
Carole this 4 year old article by Dana Ullman is no longer true, the
study
he cited is falsified, by the NGO means it was a nongovernmental
organization. The Swiss government has no longer endorses homeopathy.
And yet, a person needs to consider that it really is remarkable that
homeopathy even got to be in such high regard as it is within the
community. This is despite all the pharmaceutical propaganda that it
can't possibly work etc etc because the science just doesn't support
it. Never mind the fact that mainstream schools have been under the
control of globalist agenda for over 100 years, whereby only that
which makes money for the globalists is allowed to exist and anything
to the contrary is quickly dealt with by propaganda, paid off
politicians, infiltration of institutes that have any influence and
the expensive extorted legal system where only those with the money
can make the rules.
More recently, the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons new position on
the
use of complementary and alternative medicine
focused on efficacy and
ethics, comes after long-standing discussions within the veterinary
community.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/rcvs-releases-complementary-and-alternative-
medicine-statement/
That was without a surprise. It had been long in coming and an entire
unlicensed and poorly educated self titled homeopathic veterinary doctors
are shut down with government backing in the U.K.
There is no science, evidence or data to support homeopathy either in
humans or animals.
One really has to be an idiot to spend years trying to convince a group of
people who don?t believe a word you say that alternative remedies are
better for us. She can post one aged article to support her argument and
have
every one of us post a more recent article opposing hers but that never
stops
her.
Maybe she believes that her persistence will pay off?
Operation Mockingbird. The mainstream media is used to push the
globalist agenda on the public.
What's the globalist agenda?
Global control.
Is anyone or any group capable of global control, with a population
estimated (2017) at 7.3 billion?
And why would any person or group seek that?
The sociopaths at the top who manipulate political agendas, because
they can and have nothing better to do with their time.
How did you come to the conclusion that they are sociopaths?
What do you think they are?
I don't care to stereotype an entire group of people.
fair enough
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Men and women who are in positions of setitng policy or operating
influential organizations are individuals. I prefer to judge them
on a case by case basis, by reviewing what they've done.
In layman's terms, a sociopath and psychopath are closely related,
each viewed as an unstable and aggressive person.
In each case, there are behaviors that prompt those labels, most
notably violent anti-social behavior.
How do you classify the people who climb over others to get to the
top?
That's difficult to answer without knowing the facts and circumstances
for each instance of "people who climb over others to get to the top."
In general, people rise in organizations through organizational job
applicariion protocols and human resource management systems.
Was the process fair and equitable?
By and large, employer-employee relations are governed by the standard
of "employment at will." An employer may hire, promote, or terminate
any person of its choosing, for any reason, or no reason at all,
within limits. Most often those limits are set by laws against
discrimination based on race, color, national origin, gender, age,
religion, familial status (pregnancy), disability.
For the aggrieved employee or job applicant, seeking legal redress
under those protected classes involves showing a valid case and
proving the discrimination.
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I've never met or known an influencial "person at the top" who
displayed that type ofl behavior and continued to remain employed at
that position. Those types of individuals rarely work in isolation.
There are always people around who observe or report what they do.
There are people who know how to put on a good front, and how to look
like they are fair and reasonable but underneath it all and in subtle
ways, and for all the "right reasons" play people off against each
other.
There are some people who have no actual scruples of their own. They
just put on a front and appear to have scruples but know how to
manipulate situations.
It's never easy.
On the other hand, people are often promoted by way of who they know,
assuming a minimum level of required competence.
"Networking" is still considered the best way to find or advance in
employment.
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That's why I asked you about how you arrived at your characterizaton
of "sociopaths at the top."
This is classic conspiracy theory where it is claimed that the world
is ruled by the hidden hand. Nobody knows exactly who the puppet
masters are but people live in fear of some influence that remains
behind the scenes.
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They enjoy string pulling and manipulating the world. They've been at it
for who knows how long.
How do you know that?
Manipulation and control through propaganda - manipulation of the
masses through religion or whatever.
I don't know anyone who is manipulated and controlled.
Social engineering is done by think tanks and agents of influence.
It is subtle so that people don't realise that its happening. It all
seems fair and reasonable.
What would you propose that the average person do to deal wtih it?
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The people I've met seem in command of what they choose to do, sorting
through what they read or hear, and making decisions in their best
interest. That includes people I know who practice mainstream
religion.
IMO anybody who practices mainstream religion has been conned.
All religions are manmade and designed to keep people under control.
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Do you know people who have been manipulated?
Everybody is manipulated.
It all depends on whether the manipulation or engineering is for good
or ultimately works against a healthy society.
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There are all sorts of psychopaths who have had a go at world
domination. Its their hobby.
Then what hope do the remnant, other than the "sociopaths" and
"psychpaths" who are lodged "at the top," have for a better life?
Good question.
I am interested in reading your answer.
I don't know people at the very top, or even who they are.
Some say that manipulation of money is a way to control society.
Those who have the gold make the rules.
There are big corporations that ride roughshod over all, can afford
gangs of lawyers, and manipulate policy by changing laws.
And it has also become clear that the world's weath is increasingly
going to fewer and fewer people. The gap between the haves and
have-nots is widening. More poor people, few but exceedingly wealthy
at the top. And the people at the top often use any means to achieve
their wealth, heavy handed tactics to eliminate competition.
The top corporations in the world it has been shown, have interlocking
directorates, where the same people are appearing on different
corporate boards.
Well, that certainly provides an explanation.
But I wonder whether those people at the top are really happy?
Having wealth may help, but by itself, it doesn't guarantee happiness.
No one can make a person unhappy, if a person is secure within himself
and the universe around him, or has found a meaning to his life.
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They all get together and manipulate the masses. eg they like to keep
the people ignorant and dependent on anything that can make them
money - such as fossil fuels rather than free energy devices that
produce lots of energy once a person has the original piece of
machinery.
There are "free energy devices?"
What are they, and where can they be had?
You only have to search the internet.
Google is my friend, but the results have produced little that's
credible as a "free energy device."
Mostly it is suppressed information.
Inventors are threatened. Same as with cures for diseases, the cures
are talked down, ridiculed and made illegal.
What can the average person do about the suppressoin of information?
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Perhaps you can cite one of those devices that are worthy
of a second look?
Only if they can make money for somebody.
If a device can give free energy it is suppressed by some means or
other - maybe "national security" although corporations are running
the planet more than any nations.
Sounds like the entrepreneurial spirit.
Has mankind ever not been that way?
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I have heard stories of cars that can run on water,
Well, how credible are those stories?
As credible as the stories that say its can't be done.
Please enlighten me with a credible story about a car that runs on
water. My friend Google has disappointed me again.
Water is split into hydrogen and oxygen which is called brown's gas.
http://www.hho4free.com/browns_gas.htm
You should ask the question why Tesla who invented electricity as we
know it plus a whole heap of things that are the basics of our modern
civilisation, why he doesn't get much mention. After Tesla died a lot
of his manuscripts were spirited away, no doubt because they were not
to be in the public's hands. There are those vested interests who have
too much to lose.
Not to discount your thought, but I don't believe it.
It's not consistent with my life experience.
If something is free, then it gets out there and anyone can get it.
If something is useful, then someone finds a way to bring it to market
at an affordable price so people can buy it.
Vested interests can't keep free things hidden.
Someone always lets the cat out of the bag.
Vested interests don't hide something that has profit potential.
They develop it so money can be made.
There's an earlybird "free happy hour" at the local bar-n-grill this
afternoon. If I get there after 4 pm, I can get two free 12 ounce
Bud Lights until 5 pm. After 5 pm, if I buy a fried fish dinner,
I can get two more Bud Lgihts for half price each. The price of the
fish dinner is not inflated from it's normal price.
The bar owner makes up for the free beer he gives away because
many people show up and buy his fish dinner plus the discounted beer.
Many stay a little longer and buy beer at the usual price. He makes
a profit, and the bar patrons are happy.
That's the kind of free that I may enounter.
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but the inventors are threatened to keep it to themselves or
they are dealt with.
Who are those inventors?
Have you tried contacting one of them?
I believe it.
Once there is a commodity that can be made money from, all
alternatives are sidelines and put out of action.
Who is one such inventor?
Will he/she confirm the threat?
Tesla was going to give free energy to the world and was working on it
when he died. These days energy costs a fortune and it is big money
for oil, electricity and gas. These people don't want the public to
have free energy.
Poor Tesla got schnookered.
He died poor and ill with no family or friends around him.
But I just can't believe he had "free energy."
And if he did, I don't believe it's been hidden away so no one else
can use it.
Call me brain-washed or dumbed down.
But it's not the way I know life works.
And I'm happy with that.
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Its not so difficult to believe that cars can run on water
as water is merely hydrogen and oxygen. But the official
story is that this is too dangerous to work, or that it doesn't
work or other such stories.
The public are fed all sorts of stories to keep them in the dark.
How did you come to know the true story about those things?
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The world is manipulated by those at the top to keep people from the
truth of everything. Every field of human endeavour is based on some
sort of lies in order to manipulate the public mind.
Public reality is manipulated to keep people dumbed down.
But you don't seem manipulated or dumbed down.
How did you avoid that fate?
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they lie, spin information and deceive the public about everything
including the usefulness of mainstream medicine.
Is the media wrong about women who have been sexually harassed?
Sometimes.
When is the media wrong in reporting about women who make allegations
of being victimized by sexual harassment?
Examples of such occurrences?
I have heard that women are paid to come forward with such stories.
Without getting specific, there will always be people who are in
things for the money. Women can be bribed to come forward whether is
is true or not. Minor events can be blown up into more than they were.
A man patting a woman on the arse or feeling her boobs is not really a
newsworthy story. There are stories that are newsworthy, but these
stories aren't.
Culturally men are usually the instigators of a relationship between
the sexes. It is not uncommon for men to be forward and some can be a
bit crude, but what one woman would take as a fit of run, or maybe a
slap in the face if a bloke gets too forward, these days is being
turned into big newsworthy stories.
I could try and find examples, but don't really need to as it is
becoming pretty obvious that something is out of hand and its not the
behaviour of blokes, but some sort of social manipulation going on by
the powers that be to keep people preoccupied, or scared of living, or
some other reason. People aren't in control of their social lives when
any little thing such as looking at a woman the wrong way can make or
break their careers.
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Look it up, you might learn something about the corruption in high
places and the crap the public are expected to believe.
Where's the conection to mainstream medicine?
Money before curing people.
Practitioners of medicine are without alltruistic motives, never
seeking primarily to help people live better lives, but are a base
lot, succumbing strictly and exclusively to self-enrichment?
If so, is mankind doomed?
Not exactly, the practitioners of medicine are taught at the medical
schools run by those with motives other than curing disease. Either
money making over health, or another motive is controlling the minds
of the public. Some of the drugs given to people are psychotropic
meaning they manipulate a person's thinking processes. So rather than
find the real cause of people's mental health issues, they are given
drugs to manipulate and control their thinking.
We have fluoride put in our drinking water - fluoride is one of the
psychotropic drugs given to people with mental issues.
Its all about manipulation and control - then there are the cover
stories to keep the public onside and accepting such as fluoride stops
dental decay, which is a cover story like so many others.
Fluoride has been banned in most of europe as it does nothing.
How do you avoid fluoride in Oz, when it's in the munipcipal water
systems? Don't you cook and wash with it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_in_Australia
You can't avoid fluoride - so in that regard since it is forced on the
Australian public, I don't hold anything resulting from fluoride
poisoning against them. It is those who have decided policy who are
the culprits.
Who are those culpirts (by name)?
Those who wish to keep the people dumbed down.
Fluoride and mercury help to keep people a bit stupid and docile.
I am okay with fluoride in my water and toothpaste.
Doesn't affect me at all.
I avoid mercury if I know it's there.
I avoid breaking some newer light bulbs because they may have some
mercury.
I limit how often I have a tuna sandwich for lunch.
Vaccines used to have mercury in them but now they don't.
I noticed no ill effects from the vaccines I got that had a tiny
amount of mercuy as preservative.
I'm happy I've been getting the flu vaccine every season.
Twenty one people have died this season from the flu in my county.
None of the were vaccinated for the flu.
I'm relieved no one from my family or circle of friends got the flu.
I made sure all got vaccinated last fall.
If that makes me dumbed down, then so be it.
Life is good.
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Have you considered writing a complaint to your lcoal newspaper?
Newspapers aren't independent and only write that which is approved by
those who pull the strings. Certain topics are avoided.
Good thing your posts here and on your blogs are not censored.
Good thing you're not about to be sent to some gulag for your
expressed views.
It's good that you post in this ng, Carole.
Stay young and be healthy.
You have much to contribute.
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People have a fulltime job trying to work out all this stuff. How does
a person get ahead in life when they have so many things working
against them?
They certainly cannot get ahead, when fluoride is so harmful to them.
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I think calcium is an antidote myself - but this may or may not be
true or may not be the full solution - more research required.
I know people who ran into health problems taking calcium supplements.
One developed kidney stones, and the other got heart palpitations.
Calcium can cause problems - it can make a person constipated or can
give them the runs.
Calcium has to be kept in balance with other minerals such as sodium
and potassium and others. Once it gets out of balance the problems
begin - too much calcium, sodium or potassium can cause problems.
Post by Philip
Their physicians suggested quitting the supplements, but instead
increasing intake of fat-free organic yogurt, spinach, kale, citrus
fruit, and salmon, among other foods.
Their dentists suggested more frequent brushing, particularly after
meals, using toothpastes containing dental-grade baking soda and
peroxide.
Philip you do realize Carole a bit on the mentally disturbed side. She will
lead off a topic and quick as you debunk one claim she will jump to another
by asking "what about the shiny distracting subject here". She may even do
it several times with over a thread without ever admitting to herself you
debunked her initial premise.
Carole also,uses many socks in an attempt that there is a group of people
which support alternative medicine. There is only,one person her and that
is Carole which supports quackery in general.
Bob, I'm aware of all those things.
Usenet seems to display a complete range of views, so buyer beware.
Using one of those hackneyed phrases heard in some circles, she is who
she is. I'd rather just engage her as she presents herself. I trust
the marketplace of ideas will take care of the rest. I don't believe
she's misled anyone.
You gotta admit, Bob - this ng would be different without her.
That may be like saying that mankind would be different without
influenza, but life is far from perfect. ;-)
Have you been able to connect with anyone near North Korea with ham
radio? with anyone in Oz?
Actually there was a
very rare 6 meter opening on January 31 to Oz. I managed to work a few VKs
and ZLs. I worked the South Korean special event Olympic station. North
Korea doesn't have any amateur operators. The one person which was allowed
to operate there as a demo had his permission withdrawn after just a few
minutes of operation.

Nice openings this last few weeks into Africa on 40 meters. Today there was
no visible sun spots and a corona hole which was moving out of a geo
effective range. I know there has been some fantastic Aurora lately and Dr
T. Skov has been very good at educating people about these lower sun spot
cycle times as well as space weather conditions
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
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Some say that manipulation of money is a way to control society.
Those who have the gold make the rules.
There are big corporations that ride roughshod over all, can afford
gangs of lawyers, and manipulate policy by changing laws.
And it has also become clear that the world's weath is increasingly
going to fewer and fewer people. The gap between the haves and
have-nots is widening. More poor people, few but exceedingly wealthy
at the top. And the people at the top often use any means to achieve
their wealth, heavy handed tactics to eliminate competition.
The top corporations in the world it has been shown, have interlocking
directorates, where the same people are appearing on different
corporate boards.
I ran across this book, and thought you may find it of interest.

The book is "Secrecy World: Inside the Panama Papers Investigation of
Illicit Money Networks and the Global Elite" by Jake Bernstein.

The book recounts the story that the millions of documents leaked from
a Panamanian law firm tell about how corporations and wealthy
individuals hide their money in offshore accounts.

A hidden circulatory system flows beneath the surface of global
finance, carrying trillions of dollars from drug trafficking, tax
evasion, bribery, and other illegal enterprises. This network masks
the identities of the individuals who benefit from these activities,
aided by bankers, lawyers, and auditors who get paid to look the other
way.

https://tinyurl.com/y6w9rusj

http://jakebernstein.net

https://us.macmillan.com/secrecyworld/jakebernstein/9781250126689/

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/jake-bernstein/secrecy-world/

https://www.c-span.org/video/?438024-2/secrecy-world
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