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2017-08-31 02:16:15 UTC
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The FDA and CDC are merely arms of the pharmaceutical industry and
will do anything to villify the competition.



--
Blind Freddie
"None so blind as those who will not see"

7 Massive Misconceptions Many Never Question
http://tinyurl.com/jg9jay3

A brief history of FDA raids against providers of natural health
products
https://thebovine.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/a-brief-history-of-fda-raids-against-providers-of-natural-health-products/

Tyranny in the USA: The true history of FDA raids on healers, vitamin
shops and supplement companies
http://www.naturalnews.com/021791.html

The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry
http://tinyurl.com/zgmi


DDT
"A former high official at the NSA (National Security Agency) told me
about a protocol informally dubbed DDT - that old poisonous chemical
long-banned in much of the world. In this application, it stands for
Decoy, Distract and Trash - which is what sophisticated intelligence
operatives use to set up some person or group, take them off the trail
of something real and important, and trash the person or the
subject." -- Stephen Greer.


Suppression of dissent in science
Brian Martin / Research in Social Problems and Public Policy, Volume 7
1999
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Suppression-Dissent-Science.htm


Pan Pharmaceuticals
The founder of Pan Pharmaceuticals, the company which had its licence
withdrawn by the Therapeutic Goods Administration in 2003, has
received a record $50 million payout from the Federal Government.
- Founder 'blameless'
- 400 jobs lost
- Public inquiry wanted
Jim Selim had sued the TGA for compensation for ruining his business,
claiming public servants had acted outside their power and with
vengeance when withdrawing the licence after concerns over certain
products and manufacturing processes.
TGA shareholders lost $350 million, almost 400 people lost their jobs,
and Pan's customers lost hundreds of millions of dollars in business,
Mr Selim's lawyer Andrew Thorpe said outside the court today.
http://tinyurl.com/p8nkyco


Cover Stories invented to engineer public opinions
"Many people have been so concerned about what has been happening to
our Government that they have dedicated themselves to investigating
and exposing its evils. Unfortunately, a number of these writers have
been dupes of those cleverer than they or with sinister reasons for
concealing knowledge. They have written what they thought was the
truth, only to find out (if they ever did find out) that they had been
fed a lot of contrived cover stories and just plain hogwash. In this
book I have taken extracts from some of this writing and, line by
line, have shown how it has been manipulated to give a semblance of
truth while at the same time being contrived and false. " -- The
Secret Team, Fletcher L. Prouty,
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/USO/appA.html 


The FDA is Running an Extortion Racket
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/13/the-fda-is-running-an-extortion-racket.aspx
"The FDA has been targeting supplement makers for some time, claiming
it’s all in the interest of public safety. But it doesn’t take much
investigation to realize what’s really going on: the FDA isn’t
interested in protecting you -- they’re interested in protecting the
pharmaceutical industry."


NCI's revolving door with the cancer industry
http://www.cancerdefeated.com/newsletters/How-Conspiracy-and-Fraud-Sabotage-the-War-on-Cancer.html

Modern schooling and the war against competition
http://tinyurl.com/o4bv7e6



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2017-08-31 16:42:57 UTC
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The FDA and CDC are merely arms of the pharmaceutical industry and
will do anything to villify the competition.
Just another negative opinion from that illiterate Australian poster, Carole
Hubbard.
Duncan
2017-08-31 02:57:36 UTC
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"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."

-- Mahatma Gandhi




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Duncan

"Consensus is not a scientific term. It is a political term." (Ed. The
Climate Skeptics (TCS) Blog)

"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There
are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we
don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we
don't know we don't know." -- Donald Rumsfeld
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[BOB] "Beliefs are not opinions."
I think you will find that "belief" is a synonym for "opinion".
So WTF are you trying to say idiot?
[BOB] "I stand by what I said in context. A belief is
something held true with or without supporting
evidence or in the face of contradictory evidence.

An opinion is based on what one thinks and not what
one believes. Ones religion is what one believes.
Religion requires no thinking and in many cases
Religion forbids thinking.

While you might believe their are interchangeable
synonyms, I think if you asked an expert in the
English Language they might agree with me. The
words have different meanings and uses."
--------

">I didn't know there was a requirement to generate topics. Where did
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2017-08-31 16:38:51 UTC
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playin
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"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi October 1869– 30 January 1948
m***@privacy.net
2017-08-31 18:13:26 UTC
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playin
g-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi October 1869– 30 January 1948
Of course, Gandhi NEVER said any such thing.

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/22085/did-gandhi-support-homeopathy

http://www.gandhitopia.org/forum/topics/ganhdi-quote-on-homeopathy

http://woto.com/Gandhi


AND many more...
Bob Officer
2017-09-06 17:11:33 UTC
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playin
g-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi October 1869– 30 January 1948
Of course, Gandhi NEVER said any such thing.
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/22085/did-gandhi-support-homeopathy
http://www.gandhitopia.org/forum/topics/ganhdi-quote-on-homeopathy
http://woto.com/Gandhi
AND many more...
"The problem with notable figures, writers often create fictional quotation
from us after we are long dead, without any substance or evidence we ever
said those statements" Ralph Waldo Emerson
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Dodgy is as dodgy does
2017-09-28 05:05:32 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
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Post by Duncan
Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playin
g-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi October 1869? 30 January 1948
Of course, Gandhi NEVER said any such thing.
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/22085/did-gandhi-support-homeopathy
http://www.gandhitopia.org/forum/topics/ganhdi-quote-on-homeopathy
http://woto.com/Gandhi
AND many more...
"The problem with notable figures, writers often create fictional quotation
from us after we are long dead, without any substance or evidence we ever
said those statements" Ralph Waldo Emerson
Maybe Gandhi never said it.
However, even if he did say it mainstream would look for some way to
eliminate it from historical records, because that's the way they work
- through lies, spin, hype, bribes, and falsified studies.

And what does mainstream say about mainstream medicine that is
negative? Not a dam thing because any reporter who went against
mainstream medicine would be fired and never get another job.

So much for an honest system.
The system is rigged in favour of corporations and global interests.

Only a moron can't see that.


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Dodgy Dealings

10 Counterinsurgency And 'Psy-Ops' Tactics Companies Use Against
Protesters
http://tinyurl.com/gskmtgx

This US Government Is The Most Corrupt In History
http://www.globalresearch.ca/this-us-government-is-the-most-corrupt-in-history/5525810

CDC EXPOSED
https://anticorruptionsociety.com/center-for-disease-control-exposed/

Big Pharma: social impact index reveals a lack of transparency
http://tinyurl.com/qe6r4aa


Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2282014

"Global pharmaceutical companies paid tax of just $85 million in
Australia on revenues of more than $8 billion.
http://tinyurl.com/qj8lmmb


The Globalization of Poverty and the New World Order
by Michel Chossudovsky
http://tinyurl.com/as5ynd3

U.S. Wealth-Concentration: Wealthiest Tenth (10%) of Americans Own 75%
of America
http://tinyurl.com/nzr4mw3

Modern schooling and the war against competition
http://tinyurl.com/o4bv7e6
"In many respects we don’t have a free market economy. We have
cartels, which are the escape from free market, not the natural
progression of free market. They wage war against competition, not by
the traditional means of attracting consumer confidence, but by taking
the reigns of power in government itself and wielding it against its
adversaries. The Rockefeller dynasty represents the epitome of
cartels. Rockefeller’s partnership with Germany’s pharmaceutical giant
I. G. Farben in 1929 formed the most powerful cartel in history."



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2017-08-31 23:37:15 UTC
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playing-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.

Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity

Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:

Duncan
2017-09-01 00:13:32 UTC
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Post by Duncan
Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playing-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Why don't you go back to school and learn grammar?
Or at least read what you write before you hit the post button.

What you've just said, although I don't think you meant to, is that
notable figures should not be questioned.
Post by Bob Officer
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Is it engrained or ingrained?
I always thought the correct spelling was "ingrained".

So if bob can't even get his spelling and grammar right, who would
think he gets anything right?



--
Duncan

"Consensus is not a scientific term. It is a political term." (Ed. The
Climate Skeptics (TCS) Blog)

"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There
are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we
don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we
don't know we don't know." -- Donald Rumsfeld
Post by Bob Officer
[BOB] "Beliefs are not opinions."
I think you will find that "belief" is a synonym for "opinion".
So WTF are you trying to say idiot?
[BOB] "I stand by what I said in context. A belief is
something held true with or without supporting
evidence or in the face of contradictory evidence.

An opinion is based on what one thinks and not what
one believes. Ones religion is what one believes.
Religion requires no thinking and in many cases
Religion forbids thinking.

While you might believe their are interchangeable
synonyms, I think if you asked an expert in the
English Language they might agree with me. The
words have different meanings and uses."
--------

">I didn't know there was a requirement to generate topics. Where did
Post by Bob Officer
you get that idiotic idea from. " -- Bob Officer
DK: Bob Officer is a member of the group I
DK; accurately describe as...
PSEUDO-SKEPTIC-FANATICS (PSF)
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2017-09-03 05:26:44 UTC
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 16:37:15 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playing-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Why don't you go back to school and learn grammar?
Or at least read what you write before you hit the post button.
What you've just said, although I don't think you meant to, is that
notable figures should not be questioned.
Post by Bob Officer
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Is it engrained or ingrained?
I always thought the correct spelling was "ingrained".
If you will look at Merriam Webster online dictionary you'll find it can be
spelled either way. So Bob is a little quick to hit the send button, and
autocorrect sometimes changes what you intend to say. I wouldn't want to
be the grammar police. You've made plenty of that type of error too.
Post by Duncan
So if bob can't even get his spelling and grammar right, who would
think he gets anything right?
Kaye, replying to "Duncan" although we all know it is Carole
Lu
2017-09-10 00:38:07 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-pla
ying-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Why don't you go back to school and learn grammar?
Or at least read what you write before you hit the post button.
What you've just said, although I don't think you meant to, is that
notable figures should not be questioned.
Post by Bob Officer
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Is it engrained or ingrained?
I always thought the correct spelling was "ingrained".
If you will look at Merriam Webster online dictionary you'll find it can be
spelled either way. So Bob is a little quick to hit the send button, and
autocorrect sometimes changes what you intend to say. I wouldn't want to
be the grammar police. You've made plenty of that type of error too.
She is just changing the subject because she hasn’t anything of value to
add.

I always enjoy laughing at people who live in glass houses and like to throw
stones.
Post by kaye
Post by Duncan
So if bob can't even get his spelling and grammar right, who would
think he gets anything right?
Kaye, replying to "Duncan" although we all know it is Carole
You mean this is Carole Hubbard of Australia? (G)
m***@privacy.net
2017-09-10 00:50:57 UTC
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Kaye, replying to "Duncan" although we all know it is Carole
You mean this is Carole Hubbard of Australia? (G)
I WONDER, if we were to dig into Carole's background,
we'd discover she is related to L. Ron Hubbard??
Bob Officer
2017-09-14 17:43:52 UTC
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Kaye, replying to "Duncan" although we all know it is Carole
You mean this is Carole Hubbard of Australia? (G)
I WONDER, if we were to dig into Carole's background,
we'd discover she is related to L. Ron Hubbard??
Hubbard was a pathological liar. He manage to lie about his education and
went into the
Navy as an officer, even though he had zero qualifications.

He did get assigned as a liaison to Australia during the war, but they sent
him back to the US command as an non-acceptable behavior was worthy of
criminal charges.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Happy Oyster
2017-09-21 01:35:08 UTC
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Post by Lu
Post by kaye
Kaye, replying to "Duncan" although we all know it is Carole
You mean this is Carole Hubbard of Australia? (G)
I WONDER, if we were to dig into Carole's background,
we'd discover she is related to L. Ron Hubbard??
Hubbard was a pathological liar. He manage to lie about his education and
went into the
Navy as an officer, even though he had zero qualifications.
He did get assigned as a liaison to Australia during the war, but they sent
him back to the US command as an non-acceptable behavior was worthy of
criminal charges.
Hi, Bob, you ought to check the biography of Schüßler, the rotten fraud,
who "invented" the Schüßler mineral bullcrap. Seems he got his
doctor-title without having written a dissertation. Among other crimes
he committed.

Have fun!

Aribert Deckers
--
Homöopathie ist nichts als Hütchenspielerbetrug und organisierte Kriminalität
http://ariplex.com/folia/archives/565.htm http://ariplex.com/folia/archives/570.htm
http://ariplex.com/folia/archives/585.htm http://ariplex.com/folia/archives/643.htm
http://ariplex.com/folia/archives/647.htm
Bob Officer
2017-09-30 00:35:21 UTC
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Post by Lu
Post by kaye
Kaye, replying to "Duncan" although we all know it is Carole
You mean this is Carole Hubbard of Australia? (G)
I WONDER, if we were to dig into Carole's background,
we'd discover she is related to L. Ron Hubbard??
Hubbard was a pathological liar. He manage to lie about his education and
went into the
Navy as an officer, even though he had zero qualifications.
He did get assigned as a liaison to Australia during the war, but they sent
him back to the US command as an non-acceptable behavior was worthy of
criminal charges.
Hi, Bob, you ought to check the biography of Schüßler, the rotten fraud,
who "invented" the Schüßler mineral bullcrap. Seems he got his
doctor-title without having written a dissertation. Among other crimes
he committed.
I did. His original analysis for his salt came from stolen ashes from
cremated bodies. Those Ashes were contaminated because the crematories used
high sulfur gases or coal with high sulfur content.
Post by Happy Oyster
Have fun!
Aribert Deckers
Not possible for a while. Busy.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
kaye
2017-09-10 04:38:05 UTC
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 16:37:15 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-pla
ying-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Why don't you go back to school and learn grammar?
Or at least read what you write before you hit the post button.
What you've just said, although I don't think you meant to, is that
notable figures should not be questioned.
Post by Bob Officer
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Is it engrained or ingrained?
I always thought the correct spelling was "ingrained".
If you will look at Merriam Webster online dictionary you'll find it can be
spelled either way. So Bob is a little quick to hit the send button, and
autocorrect sometimes changes what you intend to say. I wouldn't want to
be the grammar police. You've made plenty of that type of error too.
She is just changing the subject because she hasn’t anything of value to
add.
I always enjoy laughing at people who live in glass houses and like to throw
stones.
Yep.
Post by Lu
Post by kaye
Post by Duncan
So if bob can't even get his spelling and grammar right, who would
think he gets anything right?
Kaye, replying to "Duncan" although we all know it is Carole
You mean this is Carole Hubbard of Australia? (G)
LOL There you go with those rhetorical questions Bob was talking about <g>

Kaye
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2017-10-16 14:07:39 UTC
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Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-p
la
ying-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Why don't you go back to school and learn grammar?
Or at least read what you write before you hit the post button.
What you've just said, although I don't think you meant to, is that
notable figures should not be questioned.
Post by Bob Officer
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Is it engrained or ingrained?
I always thought the correct spelling was "ingrained".
If you will look at Merriam Webster online dictionary you'll find it can be
spelled either way. So Bob is a little quick to hit the send button, and
autocorrect sometimes changes what you intend to say. I wouldn't want to
be the grammar police. You've made plenty of that type of error too.
She is just changing the subject because she hasn’t anything of value to
add.
I always enjoy laughing at people who live in glass houses and like to throw
stones.
Yep.
Post by Lu
Post by kaye
Post by Duncan
So if bob can't even get his spelling and grammar right, who would
think he gets anything right?
Kaye, replying to "Duncan" although we all know it is Carole
You mean this is Carole Hubbard of Australia? (G)
LOL There you go with those rhetorical questions Bob was talking about <g>
Lol
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Kaye
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2017-09-06 17:11:33 UTC
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playing-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Why don't you go back to school and learn grammar?
Or at least read what you write before you hit the post button.
Do Rhetoric questions get question marks, Carole.
Post by Duncan
What you've just said, although I don't think you meant to, is that
notable figures should not be questioned.
I didn't. You need to learn to read. Understand variants of construction
and complex statements.

You like attacking people but you still can't read.
You also didn't address falling for or use of a fallacy
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Is it engrained or ingrained?
I always thought the correct spelling was "ingrained".
You thought wrong, again Carole.
http://inventingrealityeditingservice.typepad.com/inventing_reality_editing/2016/04/break-a-bad-habit-ingrained-vs-engrained.html
Post by Duncan
So if bob can't even get his spelling and grammar right, who would
think he gets anything right?
Really?
Post by Duncan
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Climate Skeptics (TCS) Blog)
"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There
are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we
don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we
don't know we don't know." -- Donald Rumsfeld
Post by Bob Officer
[BOB] "Beliefs are not opinions."
I think you will find that "belief" is a synonym for "opinion".
So WTF are you trying to say idiot?
[BOB] "I stand by what I said in context. A belief is
something held true with or without supporting
evidence or in the face of contradictory evidence.
An opinion is based on what one thinks and not what
one believes. Ones religion is what one believes.
Religion requires no thinking and in many cases
Religion forbids thinking.
While you might believe their are interchangeable
synonyms, I think if you asked an expert in the
English Language they might agree with me. The
words have different meanings and uses."
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Post by Duncan
Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playing-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Why don't you go back to school and learn grammar?
Or at least read what you write before you hit the post button.
Do Rhetoric questions get question marks, Carole.
That's rhetorical bob, and yes all questions get question marks.
Why do you want to know?
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Post by Duncan
What you've just said, although I don't think you meant to, is that
notable figures should not be questioned.
I didn't. You need to learn to read. Understand variants of construction
and complex statements.
No, no ...you got it wrong. Why don't YOU re-read what you wrote and
you (well maybe not but most people) would see what I'm saying is
correct.
Post by Bob Officer
You like attacking people but you still can't read.
You also didn't address falling for or use of a fallacy
I think Mahatma Ghandi is well known and respected enough figure for
his quotes to hold some weight.
Just because YOU don't like it, well that's just too bad.

And just because western medicine is dominated by corporate
pharmaceutical medicine, designed to make money rather than cure
anything, doesn't mean that western medicine is right with all their
bullshit manipulated studies. What the studies don't show is how many
people are injured or die from pharmaceutical drug use, which is a
pretty high figure but since they have the system worked out so they
make their money and only pay a calculated amount of fines, they get
by well enough.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Is it engrained or ingrained?
I always thought the correct spelling was "ingrained".
You thought wrong, again Carole.
http://inventingrealityeditingservice.typepad.com/inventing_reality_editing/2016/04/break-a-bad-habit-ingrained-vs-engrained.html
Watch out for signs of dementia bob.
The article you just referred me to says "ingrained" is correct
although many people are using "engrained" as a variant and
dictionaries are picking up on it.
It says to use "ingrained" ...so durr !!
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
So if bob can't even get his spelling and grammar right, who would
think he gets anything right?
Really?
Yes, I think so.

Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
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"Consensus is not a scientific term. It is a political term." (Ed. The
Climate Skeptics (TCS) Blog)
"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There
are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we
don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we
don't know we don't know." -- Donald Rumsfeld
Post by Bob Officer
[BOB] "Beliefs are not opinions."
I think you will find that "belief" is a synonym for "opinion".
So WTF are you trying to say idiot?
[BOB] "I stand by what I said in context. A belief is
something held true with or without supporting
evidence or in the face of contradictory evidence.
An opinion is based on what one thinks and not what
one believes. Ones religion is what one believes.
Religion requires no thinking and in many cases
Religion forbids thinking.
While you might believe their are interchangeable
synonyms, I think if you asked an expert in the
English Language they might agree with me. The
words have different meanings and uses."
--------
">I didn't know there was a requirement to generate topics. Where did
Post by Bob Officer
you get that idiotic idea from. " -- Bob Officer
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I think Mahatma Ghandi is well known and respected enough figure for
his quotes to hold some weight.
His REAL quotes, maybe.
NOT stupid made up shit by people as STUPID as you re.
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Just because YOU don't like it, well that's just too bad.
Yeah, THAT TOO!!!
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2017-09-07 21:51:35 UTC
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Post by Duncan
Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playing-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Why don't you go back to school and learn grammar?
Or at least read what you write before you hit the post button.
Do Rhetoric questions get question marks, Carole.
That's rhetorical bob, and yes all questions get question marks.
Why do you want to know?
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
What you've just said, although I don't think you meant to, is that
notable figures should not be questioned.
I didn't. You need to learn to read. Understand variants of construction
and complex statements.
No, no ...you got it wrong. Why don't YOU re-read what you wrote and
you (well maybe not but most people) would see what I'm saying is
correct.
Post by Bob Officer
You like attacking people but you still can't read.
You also didn't address falling for or use of a fallacy
I think Mahatma Ghandi is well known and respected enough figure for
his quotes to hold some weight.
Just because YOU don't like it, well that's just too bad.
And just because western medicine is dominated by corporate
pharmaceutical medicine, designed to make money rather than cure
anything, doesn't mean that western medicine is right with all their
bullshit manipulated studies. What the studies don't show is how many
people are injured or die from pharmaceutical drug use, which is a
pretty high figure but since they have the system worked out so they
make their money and only pay a calculated amount of fines, they get
by well enough.
You're implying that alternative "medicine" practitioners and manufacturers
aren't making money. That is blatantly untrue. They make lots of money.
Have you seen pictures of Mercola's house? Have you seen pictures of Mike
Adams house? Or how about the ranch /retreat Robert O. Young has? All these
estates were Ill gotten gains from scamming vulnerable people with false
promises of better health. Tell me again how alt med isn't about the money.
You're even stupider than I thought.

Kaye
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Is it engrained or ingrained?
I always thought the correct spelling was "ingrained".
You thought wrong, again Carole.
http://inventingrealityeditingservice.typepad.com/inventing_reality_editing/2016/04/break-a-bad-habit-ingrained-vs-engrained.html
Watch out for signs of dementia bob.
The article you just referred me to says "ingrained" is correct
although many people are using "engrained" as a variant and
dictionaries are picking up on it.
It says to use "ingrained" ...so durr !!
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
So if bob can't even get his spelling and grammar right, who would
think he gets anything right?
Really?
Yes, I think so.
Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
--
Duncan
"Consensus is not a scientific term. It is a political term." (Ed. The
Climate Skeptics (TCS) Blog)
"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There
are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we
don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we
don't know we don't know." -- Donald Rumsfeld
Post by Bob Officer
[BOB] "Beliefs are not opinions."
I think you will find that "belief" is a synonym for "opinion".
So WTF are you trying to say idiot?
[BOB] "I stand by what I said in context. A belief is
something held true with or without supporting
evidence or in the face of contradictory evidence.
An opinion is based on what one thinks and not what
one believes. Ones religion is what one believes.
Religion requires no thinking and in many cases
Religion forbids thinking.
While you might believe their are interchangeable
synonyms, I think if you asked an expert in the
English Language they might agree with me. The
words have different meanings and uses."
--------
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Post by Bob Officer
you get that idiotic idea from. " -- Bob Officer
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Post by Duncan
On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 16:37:15 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playing-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Why don't you go back to school and learn grammar?
Or at least read what you write before you hit the post button.
Do Rhetoric questions get question marks, Carole.
That's rhetorical bob, and yes all questions get question marks.
Because you are wrong again. Rhetorical questions can end with a period,
exclamations n mark or a period, Carole.
Post by Duncan
Why do you want to know?
Do you even know what a rhetorical question is Carole!
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
What you've just said, although I don't think you meant to, is that
notable figures should not be questioned.
I didn't. You need to learn to read. Understand variants of construction
and complex statements.
No, no ...you got it wrong. Why don't YOU re-read what you wrote and
you (well maybe not but most people) would see what I'm saying is
correct.
Do you even know how complex statements work Carole?
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
You like attacking people but you still can't read.
You also didn't address falling for or use of a fallacy
I think Mahatma Ghandi is well known and respected enough figure for
his quotes to hold some weight.
Only when taken inside context, Carole. And that isn't actually a real
quote, Carole. It isn't in any of his writings or recorded interviews, and
wasn't in print until way after his death. It was created by someone that
never had any interaction with him.
Post by Duncan
Just because YOU don't like it, well that's just too bad.
And just because western medicine is dominated by corporate
pharmaceutical medicine, designed to make money rather than cure
anything, doesn't mean that western medicine is right with all their
bullshit manipulated studies. What the studies don't show is how many
people are injured or die from pharmaceutical drug use, which is a
pretty high figure but since they have the system worked out so they
make their money and only pay a calculated amount of fines, they get
by well enough.
When you try to quote someone, next time make sure they really said it, OK?
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Is it engrained or ingrained?
I always thought the correct spelling was "ingrained".
You thought wrong, again Carole.
http://inventingrealityeditingservice.typepad.com/inventing_reality_editing/2016/04/break-a-bad-habit-ingrained-vs-engrained.html
Watch out for signs of dementia bob.
The article you just referred me to says "ingrained" is correct
although many people are using "engrained" as a variant and
dictionaries are picking up on it.
It says to use "ingrained" ...so durr !!
It also goes on the say it is ok to use variants, Carole.
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
So if bob can't even get his spelling and grammar right, who would
think he gets anything right?
Really?
Yes, I think so.
--
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John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-pl
aying-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Why don't you go back to school and learn grammar?
Or at least read what you write before you hit the post button.
Do Rhetoric questions get question marks, Carole.
That's rhetorical bob, and yes all questions get question marks.
Why do you want to know?
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
What you've just said, although I don't think you meant to, is that
notable figures should not be questioned.
I didn't. You need to learn to read. Understand variants of construction
and complex statements.
No, no ...you got it wrong. Why don't YOU re-read what you wrote and
you (well maybe not but most people) would see what I'm saying is
correct.
You were the only one who did not understand what he wrote.
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
You like attacking people but you still can't read.
You also didn't address falling for or use of a fallacy
I think Mahatma Ghandi is well known and respected enough figure for
his quotes to hold some weight.
Just because YOU don't like it, well that's just too bad.
Not a matter of liking or disliking what Ghandi said. The man has been dead
since 1948. What he said more then 69 years ago is no longer relevant .
Post by Duncan
And just because western medicine is dominated by corporate
pharmaceutical medicine, designed to make money rather than cure
anything, doesn't mean that western medicine is right with all their
bullshit manipulated studies. What the studies don't show is how many
people are injured or die from pharmaceutical drug use, which is a
pretty high figure but since they have the system worked out so they
make their money and only pay a calculated amount of fines, they get
by well enough.
How do you explain the millions of people who use these pharmaceutical
product instead of your alternative remedies? Have you ever thought about it,
asked yourself why millions of people would drop alternatives for those
expensive pharmaceutical products YOU find so repulsive because the industry
that makes them makes money on them?
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
Post by Bob Officer
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Is it engrained or ingrained?
I always thought the correct spelling was "ingrained".
You thought wrong, again Carole.
http://inventingrealityeditingservice.typepad.com/inventing_reality_editing/
2016/04/break-a-bad-habit-ingrained-vs-engrained.html
Watch out for signs of dementia bob.
The article you just referred me to says "ingrained" is correct
although many people are using "engrained" as a variant and
dictionaries are picking up on it.
It says to use "ingrained" ...so durr !!
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
So if bob can't even get his spelling and grammar right, who would
think he gets anything right?
Really?
Yes, I think so.
Just think, you, Carole, you can get all your words spelled correctly and use
perfect grammar and still ON ONE WOULD BELIEVE YOU. It isn’t how you say it
but what you say that determines if you are believed.
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Duncan
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Duncan
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2017-09-12 17:05:05 UTC
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-playing-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Homeopathy's efficacy demonstrated by outcomes - note America is 37th
and doesn't use homeopathy.

"Homeopathy is the leading alternative medicine used by Europeans.
Homeopathy appears to be responsible for the well-being of the French,
who are ranked #1 in the world in the performance of their health care
system. In France, 40% of the population uses homeopathic medicines
and around 30% of physicians prescribe them. Americans, most of whom
do not use homeopathy, rank #37 in the performance of their health
care system."



--
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"Consensus is not a scientific term. It is a political term." (Ed. The
Climate Skeptics (TCS) Blog)

"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There
are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we
don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we
don't know we don't know." -- Donald Rumsfeld
Post by Bob Officer
[BOB] "Beliefs are not opinions."
I think you will find that "belief" is a synonym for "opinion".
So WTF are you trying to say idiot?
[BOB] "I stand by what I said in context. A belief is
something held true with or without supporting
evidence or in the face of contradictory evidence.

An opinion is based on what one thinks and not what
one believes. Ones religion is what one believes.
Religion requires no thinking and in many cases
Religion forbids thinking.

While you might believe their are interchangeable
synonyms, I think if you asked an expert in the
English Language they might agree with me. The
words have different meanings and uses."
--------

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Post by Bob Officer
you get that idiotic idea from. " -- Bob Officer
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Post by Duncan
Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-play
ing-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Homeopathy's efficacy demonstrated by outcomes - note America is 37th
and doesn't use homeopathy.
"Homeopathy is the leading alternative medicine used by Europeans.
Homeopathy appears to be responsible for the well-being of the French,
who are ranked #1 in the world in the performance of their health care
system. In France, 40% of the population uses homeopathic medicines
and around 30% of physicians prescribe them. Americans, most of whom
do not use homeopathy, rank #37 in the performance of their health
care system."
Homeopathy is only the leading ALTERNATIVE medicine used by over 100 million
Europeans.
The current population of Europe is 742 million people.
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 16:37:15 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Duncan
Post by m***@privacy.net
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/fda-slams-more-homeopaths-for-play
ing-fast-and-loose-with-toxic-chemicals/
"Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method
of treatment and is beyond all doubt safer, more economical, and the
most complete medical science."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Said without any supporting data.
Carole are you aware of the post hoc fallacy? Just because a notable figure
makes a statement, that statement should be questioned without support
studies.
Sadly homeopathy is so engrained in their religion, people have been taught
to never question their religion.
Homeopathy's efficacy demonstrated by outcomes - note America is 37th
and doesn't use homeopathy.
"Homeopathy is the leading alternative medicine used by Europeans.
Homeopathy appears to be responsible for the well-being of the French,
who are ranked #1 in the world in the performance of their health care
system. In France, 40% of the population uses homeopathic medicines
and around 30% of physicians prescribe them. Americans, most of whom
do not use homeopathy, rank #37 in the performance of their health
care system."
Homeopathy is only the leading ALTERNATIVE medicine used by over 100 million
Europeans.
The current population of Europe is 742 million people.
Homeopathy is great at treating self limiting illnesses and psychosomatic
disorders.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
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