Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2013-04-23 02:56:37 UTC
> Henry Mydlarz wrote:
> > "outsider" wrote:
> >> GysdeJongh wrote:
> >>> no difference with preventing T2 trouble :)
> >>> Eur J Nutr. 2012 Dec;51(8):917-26. doi: 10.1007/s00394-011-0268-2. Epub
> >>> 2011 Nov 6.
> >>> Nutrient and food intakes of middle-aged adults at low risk of
> >>> cardiovascular disease: the international study of macro-/micronutrients
> >>> and blood pressure (INTERMAP).
> >>> PURPOSE: Individuals with favorable levels of readily measured
> >>> cardiovascular disease (CVD) risk factors (low risk, LR) experience low
> >>> long-term rates of CVD mortality and greater longevity. The purpose of
> >>> the current study was to compare nutrient/food intakes of LR
> >>> participants with participants not LR in the INTERMAP study. METHODS:
> >>> Men and women (40-59 years) from 17 population samples in four countries
> >>> (China, Japan, UK, US) provided four 24-h dietary recalls and two timed
> >>> 24-h urine collections. LR was defined as meeting all of the following
> >>> CVD risk criteria: systolic/diastolic blood pressure (BP) ? 120/ ? 80
> >>> mmHg; no drug treatment for high BP, hyperlipidemia, or CVD;
> >>> non-smoking; BMI <25.0 kg/m(2) (US, UK) or <23.0 kg/m(2) (China, Japan);
> >>> alcohol consumption <26.0 g/day (men)/<13.0 g/day (women); and no
> >>> history of diabetes or CVD. Multivariate logistic regression was used to
> >>> examine associations of nutrient/food intakes with LR. RESULTS: LR
> >>> individuals reported higher intake of vegetable protein, fiber,
> >>> magnesium, non-heme iron, potassium; lower energy intake; lower intake
> >>> of cholesterol, saturated fatty acids, animal protein; and lower 24-h
> >>> urinary sodium compared with individuals not LR. With regard to foods,
> >>> LR individuals reported higher intake of fruits, vegetables, grains,
> >>> pasta/rice, fish; lower intakes of meats, processed meats, high-fat
> >>> dairy, and sugar-sweetened beverages than individuals not LR.
> >>> CONCLUSIONS: Lower energy intake and differential intake of multiple
> >>> specific nutrients and foods are characteristic of individuals at low
> >>> risk for developing CVD. Identification of dietary habits associated
> >>> with LR is important for further development of public health efforts
> >>> aimed at reduction/prevention of CVD.
> >>> PMID: 22057680
> >> So the "Beefeaters" don't stand a very good chance, notwithstanding the
> >> traditional Eskimo diet.
> >> Doesn't that tell us that over the long term, survivors who live
> >> despite eating lots of beef and grains, will shift the genome to ever
> >> increasing numbers of people surviving in good health with a similar
> >> diet? So in a way, don't those who die young of CVD serve the rest
> >> of the population by not reproducing or at least not reproducing
> >> very much?
> >> I have to wonder where the expression, "the good die young" comes from.
> >> It seems to me that wealth that often leads to gluttony (one of the
> >> cardinal sins) would lead to much shorter average lifespans.
> > I saw the beginning of a TV documentary on eating last night.
> > Interesting to note that during the great depression in the 30s, when
> > poverty was rife, supposedly the average lifespan of a person went up.
> As I have pointed out in another thread - according to what I have read
> - T2s were practically non-existent in central Europe during and after WW2.
Yes, the cause of T2 diabetes has always been the overeating, which is
simply eating more than the right amount, which is 32 oz of daily
Thus, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter for it directly addresses the cause:
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach: