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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-21 12:54:44 UTC
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...as orginally established in 2015 is now expanded beyond just
covering type-2 diabetes to including its co-morbities such as
depression, sleep apnea, and cardiovascular disease:

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare

The above is the absolutely only healthy solution to the U.S.
healthcare fiscal crisis compared to either ObamaCare or TrumpCare
simply because it's the only healthy cure for costly chronic medical
conditions such as type-2 diabetes, depression, sleep apnea,
hypertension, hypercholesterolemia, and cardiovascular disease, which
all plague America thereby destroying our healthcare system.
"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/T3BookCure
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for chronic acquired
diseases.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-22 21:36:23 UTC
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"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-23 12:45:14 UTC
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"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-24 13:46:25 UTC
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"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-25 12:36:53 UTC
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"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-26 21:10:02 UTC
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"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-27 16:24:54 UTC
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"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-28 13:32:43 UTC
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"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-29 22:29:38 UTC
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Raw Message
"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
helper
2017-07-29 21:49:59 UTC
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The information posted here is out of date and incomplete and in its
original form misleading.

A single red flag alone says it all, "cure".

Please consult your medical expert for currrent information in your best
approach to diabetes care.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-30 00:10:46 UTC
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"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit
You are in error.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.
can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
No according to Genesis 3:14
i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.
asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts
Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.
Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.
can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
No according to Genesis 3:14
i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.
asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.
Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.
not that i have done so
Actually you have.
, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit
To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ
CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ
An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.
All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ
The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.
50% cure rate is pretty impressive.
The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.
The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ
Sometimes
Invariably means always.
, but starting near nothing
No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.
, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?
Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.
Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
I forgive you.
Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J
"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8
Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).
May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J
I'm sorry ...
Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J
not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J
Markea Berry ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo
"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ
False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.
"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-31 01:02:03 UTC
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Raw Message
"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit
You are in error.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.
can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
No according to Genesis 3:14
i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.
asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts
Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.
Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.
can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
No according to Genesis 3:14
i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.
asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.
Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.
not that i have done so
Actually you have.
, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit
To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ
CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ
An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.
All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ
The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.
50% cure rate is pretty impressive.
The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.
The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ
Sometimes
Invariably means always.
, but starting near nothing
No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.
, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?
Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.
Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
I forgive you.
Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J
"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8
Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).
May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J
I'm sorry ...
Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J
not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J
Markea Berry ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo
"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ
False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.
"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-30 11:58:02 UTC
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"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-31 13:50:57 UTC
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Raw Message
"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
helper
2017-07-31 16:57:45 UTC
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"Cure" is a red flag.The information presented doesn't represent the
concensus of current medical research.

Better to seek medical direction with a proven doctor known and trusted by
you.
Jimmy Alpha GeD
2017-07-31 19:32:55 UTC
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Post by helper
"Cure" is a red flag.The information presented doesn't represent the
concensus of current medical research.
Better to seek medical direction with a proven doctor known and trusted by
you.
Back ground on sightwalker can be found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg> .
I wonder if license is still suspended?
Jimmy Alpha GeD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-07-31 22:56:04 UTC
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"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit
You are in error.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.
can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
No according to Genesis 3:14
i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.
asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts
Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.
Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.
can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
No according to Genesis 3:14
i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.
asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.
Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.
not that i have done so
Actually you have.
, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit
To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ
CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ
An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.
All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ
The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.
50% cure rate is pretty impressive.
The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.
The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ
Sometimes
Invariably means always.
, but starting near nothing
No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.
, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?
Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.
Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
I forgive you.
Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J
"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8
Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).
May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J
I'm sorry ...
Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J
not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J
Markea Berry ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo
"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ
False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.
"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-08-01 20:16:50 UTC
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"After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
************
They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
Here's the abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
<snip>
© 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
and not for profit, and the work is not altered.
Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
which some people are more susceptible than others.
PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
helper
2017-08-01 19:37:24 UTC
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Best to only consult your local medical expert on personal health issues. .

If someone mentions a "cure" for diabetes, that is a huge red flag worth
paying attention to.

Discuss this with your local medicl provider.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2017-08-01 21:16:10 UTC
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"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit
You are in error.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.
can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
No according to Genesis 3:14
i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.
asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts
Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.
Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.
can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
No according to Genesis 3:14
i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.
asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.
Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.
not that i have done so
Actually you have.
, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit
To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ
CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ
An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.
All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ
The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.
50% cure rate is pretty impressive.
The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.
The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ
Sometimes
Invariably means always.
, but starting near nothing
No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.
, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?
Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.
Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
I forgive you.
Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J
"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8
Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).
May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J
I'm sorry ...
Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J
not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J
Markea Berry ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo
"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ
False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.
"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
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