They lie about EVERYTHING !!

[A little knowledge]

Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".



Forbidden Archeology, Our Billion Year Old Human History

"Published on Oct 30, 2016

Researchers have found bones and artefacts proving that modern humans
have existed for millions of years. Mainstream science, however has
suppressed these facts. Prejudices based on current scientific theory
act as a 'knowledge filter', giving us a picture of prehistory that is
largely inaccurate. This book reveals this hidden history.

Recovering the complete set of facts takes us on a fascinating
expedition, across five continents to key archaeological sites, some
long forgotten, some the center of ongoing controversy. These facts
are consistent with the accounts of human origins and antiquity found
in the Puranas, the historical writings of ancient India."


Why do they lie about so much?
What are they trying to hide?


--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing


"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."


Circular reasoning, also known as 'Begging the question'
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
eg of Begging the Question
Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God [and god never lies]"


Is Big Pharma Addicted To Fraud?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/


Patents Over Patients
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/opinion/01moss.html
"We could make faster progress against cancer by changing the way
drugs are developed. In the current system, if a promising compound
can’t be patented, it is highly unlikely ever to make it to market"

[Major]

On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

[Whacko]

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

Go back to your easter egg making.

[Stick]

Post by Whacko

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

Go back to your easter egg making.

Get off usenet, moron.
You know nothing, and understand even less.

[Bob Officer]

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

This is funny from coming from Carole, a person which doesn't understand
how knowledge is derived. She neither knows what is is taught is schools
and when shown she refuses to look.

Reminds me of Aesop's fable of the fox and grapes.

Only a fool refuses to look. Until one looks one can not know.

[A little knowledge]

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 20:04:26 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

This is funny from coming from Carole, a person which doesn't understand
how knowledge is derived. She neither knows what is is taught is schools
and when shown she refuses to look.
Reminds me of Aesop's fable of the fox and grapes.
Only a fool refuses to look. Until one looks one can not know.

The only problem is that those who go through the higher levels of
education get brainwashed to a certain extent. They lose their
flexibility to consider anything outside the box and to question the
system.

You are getting educated in a system that doesn't allow dissent or
questioning in certain areas, and it can mean the end of a person's
career to do so, eg archaeologists who question that man is older than
100,000 years.

The system is rigged including education.
Whistleblowers and mavericks are dealt with.
Got to keep everybody in line, beginning at the top - no questioning
allowed thankyou.

The man on the street, with a lesser education has more reasoning
abilities to know what is wrong or right, to see what makes sense and
what doesn't, than the highly educated who are straightjacketed into a
set system and aren't allowed to question.

Those at the very top have set the agenda of what people are allowed
to know, the rest is manipulated, suppressed, kept hidden under
national security, cover stories and lies to keep the truth hidden.


Only a fool would think it otherwise.


--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing


"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."


Circular reasoning, also known as 'Begging the question'
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
eg of Begging the Question
Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God [and god never lies]"


Is Big Pharma Addicted To Fraud?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/


Patents Over Patients
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/opinion/01moss.html
"We could make faster progress against cancer by changing the way
drugs are developed. In the current system, if a promising compound
can’t be patented, it is highly unlikely ever to make it to market"

[Stick]

Post by A little knowledge
The only problem is that those who go through the higher levels of
education get brainwashed

No they don't.
Those are your sour grapes because your education is grossly deficient.

Post by A little knowledge
They lose their flexibility to consider anything outside the box and
to question the system.

No they don't.
Requiring proof of facts and testing of hypotheses is always required.

For an ignoramus like you, 2+2=5 is "outside the box."
It isn't. It's just erroneous math.

Post by A little knowledge
Those at the very top have set the agenda of what people are allowed
to know

No they haven't.
You don't have the skills to test what's known and knowable.

Post by A little knowledge
the rest is manipulated, suppressed, kept hidden under national
security, cover stories and lies to keep the truth hidden.

Nothing is manipulated nor suppressed.
You are willfully ignorant.

Post by A little knowledge
Only a fool would think it otherwise.

You are the only fool here because *you* refuse to learn.
Your protest hurts no one else but you.

Face it Carole: you don't measure up.
You sour grapes make you the idiot.

[Major]

On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 09:44:41 +1100, A little knowledge

Post by A little knowledge
Those at the very top have set the agenda of what people are allowed
to know, the rest is manipulated, suppressed, kept hidden under
national security, cover stories and lies to keep the truth hidden.

Carole is an idiot.

[Bob Officer]

Post by A little knowledge
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 20:04:26 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

This is funny from coming from Carole, a person which doesn't understand
how knowledge is derived. She neither knows what is is taught is schools
and when shown she refuses to look.
Reminds me of Aesop's fable of the fox and grapes.
Only a fool refuses to look. Until one looks one can not know.

The only problem is that those who go through the higher levels of
education get brainwashed to a certain extent. They lose their
flexibility to consider anything outside the box and to question the
system.

This is saying this, out of ignorance, Carole. Not personal experience.

Post by A little knowledge
You are getting educated in a system that doesn't allow dissent or
questioning in certain areas, and it can mean the end of a person's
career to do so, eg archaeologists who question that man is older than
100,000 years.

Sadly Carole, you don't know how wrong you are. If you are talking about
Cremo, he is just not correct and vast body of evidence says he is wrong.
Even his evidence is runs from fabricated to out right false.

[A little knowledge]

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 03:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 20:04:26 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

This is funny from coming from Carole, a person which doesn't understand
how knowledge is derived. She neither knows what is is taught is schools
and when shown she refuses to look.
Reminds me of Aesop's fable of the fox and grapes.
Only a fool refuses to look. Until one looks one can not know.

The only problem is that those who go through the higher levels of
education get brainwashed to a certain extent. They lose their
flexibility to consider anything outside the box and to question the
system.

This is saying this, out of ignorance, Carole. Not personal experience.

Not really bob.
We all realise that the system is dominated from the top down.
The words of those at the top aren't allowed to be challenged.
That arse lickers get ahead, those that challenge or ask questions,
get called loons and are sidelined.
Questioning the system isn't encouraged.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge
You are getting educated in a system that doesn't allow dissent or
questioning in certain areas, and it can mean the end of a person's
career to do so, eg archaeologists who question that man is older than
100,000 years.

Sadly Carole, you don't know how wrong you are. If you are talking about
Cremo, he is just not correct and vast body of evidence says he is wrong.
Even his evidence is runs from fabricated to out right false.

Cremo has some interesting views, and he explains how those who
challenge the system get sidelined. He doesn't believe in Darwinism,
that man evolved from apes. There has never been found a missing link
between apes and man. Also there is a coverup of giants living up to
1million years ago.

When the tests are done on artefacts, if they show over 100 million
years, the tests are said to be faulty, even when done by several
methods. There is a massive archaeological coverup of the history of
the earth and how long man has been on the earth.
Cremo hypothesises that man didn't evolve from apes, but that he
devolved from some sort of spirit form which devolved to physical.

Since everything taught by mainstream science is wrong, it is a good
idea to look further into this theory as the possible correct history
of man.

Michael Cremo is easy to listen to.


--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing


"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."


Circular reasoning, also known as 'Begging the question'
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
eg of Begging the Question
Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God [and god never lies]"


Is Big Pharma Addicted To Fraud?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/


Patents Over Patients
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/opinion/01moss.html
"We could make faster progress against cancer by changing the way
drugs are developed. In the current system, if a promising compound
can’t be patented, it is highly unlikely ever to make it to market"

[Stick]

Post by A little knowledge
On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 03:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
We all realise that the system is dominated from the top down. The
words of those at the top aren't allowed to be challenged. That arse
lickers get ahead, those that challenge or ask questions, get called
loons and are sidelined. Questioning the system isn't encouraged.

/quote
ONE hot summer’s day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came
to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over
a lofty branch. “Just the things to quench my thirst,” quoth he. Drawing
back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch.
Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no
greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but
at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air,
saying: “I am sure they are sour.”

The Fox and the Grapes, Aesop's Fables, The Harvard Classics
http://www.bartleby.com/17/1/31.html

/quote
Rather than admit his failure to reach the grapes, the fox rationalises
that they are not really desirable. One commentator argues that the
story illustrates the state of cognitive dissonance. The fox is taken as
attempting to hold incompatible ideas simultaneously, desire and its
frustration. In that case, the disdain expressed by the fox at the
conclusion to the fable serves at least to reduce the dissonance through
criticism.

The Fox and the Grapes
Cognitive Dissonance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes

/quote
From this fable it has come to be a proverb, when a man pretends not to
wish for what he cannot have, to say to him, the grapes are sour ... The
fox was not wrong to endeavour contentedly to go without what he could
not get, but he not have told an untruth.

Fables ancient and modern, adapted for the use of children
by Edward Baldwin
http://tinyurl.com/gumbb67

[Bob Officer]

Post by Stick

Post by A little knowledge
On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 03:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
We all realise that the system is dominated from the top down. The
words of those at the top aren't allowed to be challenged. That arse
lickers get ahead, those that challenge or ask questions, get called
loons and are sidelined. Questioning the system isn't encouraged.

/quote
ONE hot summer’s day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came
to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over
a lofty branch. “Just the things to quench my thirst,” quoth he. Drawing
back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch.
Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no
greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but
at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air,
saying: “I am sure they are sour.”
The Fox and the Grapes, Aesop's Fables, The Harvard Classics
http://www.bartleby.com/17/1/31.html
/quote
Rather than admit his failure to reach the grapes, the fox rationalises
that they are not really desirable. One commentator argues that the
story illustrates the state of cognitive dissonance. The fox is taken as
attempting to hold incompatible ideas simultaneously, desire and its
frustration. In that case, the disdain expressed by the fox at the
conclusion to the fable serves at least to reduce the dissonance through
criticism.
The Fox and the Grapes
Cognitive Dissonance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes
/quote
From this fable it has come to be a proverb, when a man pretends not to
wish for what he cannot have, to say to him, the grapes are sour ... The
fox was not wrong to endeavour contentedly to go without what he could
not get, but he not have told an untruth.
Fables ancient and modern, adapted for the use of children
by Edward Baldwin
http://tinyurl.com/gumbb67

Thank you. I have some serious doubts Carole will understand the point I
was trying to make. She likes to rant about that which she has no
understanding. She rants about what is taught in medical schools, but has
never attended one. She rants about how classes are taught but never
attended any.

Yes the tale of the fox and the grapes is fitting.

[Lu]

Post by A little knowledge
On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 03:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 20:04:26 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

This is funny from coming from Carole, a person which doesn't understand
how knowledge is derived. She neither knows what is is taught is schools
and when shown she refuses to look.
Reminds me of Aesop's fable of the fox and grapes.
Only a fool refuses to look. Until one looks one can not know.

The only problem is that those who go through the higher levels of
education get brainwashed to a certain extent. They lose their
flexibility to consider anything outside the box and to question the
system.

This is saying this, out of ignorance, Carole. Not personal experience.

Not really bob.
We all realise that the system is dominated from the top down.
The words of those at the top aren't allowed to be challenged.
That arse lickers get ahead, those that challenge or ask questions,
get called loons and are sidelined.
Questioning the system isn't encouraged.

Really carole. Are you completely blind to the fact that Americans disagree
with "the powers that be" all the time and say so out loud and in writing,
at every opportunity. Face book and twitter tell that story loud and clear.

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge
You are getting educated in a system that doesn't allow dissent or
questioning in certain areas, and it can mean the end of a person's
career to do so, eg archaeologists who question that man is older than
100,000 years.

Sadly Carole, you don't know how wrong you are. If you are talking about
Cremo, he is just not correct and vast body of evidence says he is wrong.
Even his evidence is runs from fabricated to out right false.

Cremo has some interesting views, and he explains how those who
challenge the system get sidelined. He doesn't believe in Darwinism,
that man evolved from apes. There has never been found a missing link
between apes and man. Also there is a coverup of giants living up to
1million years ago.

interesting VIEWS.

Post by A little knowledge
When the tests are done on artefacts, if they show over 100 million
years, the tests are said to be faulty, even when done by several
methods. There is a massive archaeological coverup of the history of
the earth and how long man has been on the earth.
Cremo hypothesises that man didn't evolve from apes, but that he
devolved from some sort of spirit form which devolved to physical.

hypothesises?

Post by A little knowledge
Since everything taught by mainstream science is wrong, it is a good
idea to look further into this theory as the possible correct history
of man.
Michael Cremo is easy to listen to.
--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing

--
Lu

[Bob Officer]

Post by Lu

Post by A little knowledge
On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 03:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 20:04:26 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

This is funny from coming from Carole, a person which doesn't understand
how knowledge is derived. She neither knows what is is taught is schools
and when shown she refuses to look.
Reminds me of Aesop's fable of the fox and grapes.
Only a fool refuses to look. Until one looks one can not know.

The only problem is that those who go through the higher levels of
education get brainwashed to a certain extent. They lose their
flexibility to consider anything outside the box and to question the
system.

This is saying this, out of ignorance, Carole. Not personal experience.

Not really bob.
We all realise that the system is dominated from the top down.
The words of those at the top aren't allowed to be challenged.
That arse lickers get ahead, those that challenge or ask questions,
get called loons and are sidelined.
Questioning the system isn't encouraged.

Really carole. Are you completely blind to the fact that Americans disagree
with "the powers that be" all the time and say so out loud and in writing,
at every opportunity. Face book and twitter tell that story loud and clear.

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge
You are getting educated in a system that doesn't allow dissent or
questioning in certain areas, and it can mean the end of a person's
career to do so, eg archaeologists who question that man is older than
100,000 years.

Sadly Carole, you don't know how wrong you are. If you are talking about
Cremo, he is just not correct and vast body of evidence says he is wrong.
Even his evidence is runs from fabricated to out right false.

Cremo has some interesting views, and he explains how those who
challenge the system get sidelined. He doesn't believe in Darwinism,
that man evolved from apes. There has never been found a missing link
between apes and man. Also there is a coverup of giants living up to
1million years ago.

interesting VIEWS.

They are but they are totally unfounded in fact or data.

Post by Lu

Post by A little knowledge
When the tests are done on artifacts, if they show over 100 million
years, the tests are said to be faulty, even when done by several
methods. There is a massive archaeological coverup of the history of
the earth and how long man has been on the earth.
Cremo hypothesises that man didn't evolve from apes, but that he
devolved from some sort of spirit form which devolved to physical.

hypothesises?

No, it is not a hypothesis. It is mere speculation without any sort of data
or facts to support the speculation. The real problem is there is more than
enough data and facts to stop the speculation. That's why Cremo is
dismissed outside a small Hindu cult.

Post by Lu

Post by A little knowledge
Since everything taught by mainstream science is wrong, it is a good
idea to look further into this theory as the possible correct history
of man.
Michael Cremo is easy to listen to.

Lots of people are " easy to listen to". One of the smoothest talkers I
ever saw was a man playing three card monte. I watched him fleece from. A
crowd nearly 1000 dollars in a 10 minutes.

Being easy to listen to doesn't mean a person it right, truthful or honest.

[Lu]

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Lu

Post by A little knowledge
On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 03:35:07 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 20:04:26 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

This is funny from coming from Carole, a person which doesn't understand
how knowledge is derived. She neither knows what is is taught is schools
and when shown she refuses to look.
Reminds me of Aesop's fable of the fox and grapes.
Only a fool refuses to look. Until one looks one can not know.

The only problem is that those who go through the higher levels of
education get brainwashed to a certain extent. They lose their
flexibility to consider anything outside the box and to question the
system.

This is saying this, out of ignorance, Carole. Not personal experience.

Not really bob.
We all realise that the system is dominated from the top down.
The words of those at the top aren't allowed to be challenged.
That arse lickers get ahead, those that challenge or ask questions,
get called loons and are sidelined.
Questioning the system isn't encouraged.

Really carole. Are you completely blind to the fact that Americans disagree
with "the powers that be" all the time and say so out loud and in writing,
at every opportunity. Face book and twitter tell that story loud and clear.

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge
You are getting educated in a system that doesn't allow dissent or
questioning in certain areas, and it can mean the end of a person's
career to do so, eg archaeologists who question that man is older than
100,000 years.

Sadly Carole, you don't know how wrong you are. If you are talking about
Cremo, he is just not correct and vast body of evidence says he is wrong.
Even his evidence is runs from fabricated to out right false.

Cremo has some interesting views, and he explains how those who
challenge the system get sidelined. He doesn't believe in Darwinism,
that man evolved from apes. There has never been found a missing link
between apes and man. Also there is a coverup of giants living up to
1million years ago.

interesting VIEWS.

They are but they are totally unfounded in fact or data.

Post by Lu

Post by A little knowledge
When the tests are done on artifacts, if they show over 100 million
years, the tests are said to be faulty, even when done by several
methods. There is a massive archaeological coverup of the history of
the earth and how long man has been on the earth.
Cremo hypothesises that man didn't evolve from apes, but that he
devolved from some sort of spirit form which devolved to physical.

hypothesises?

No, it is not a hypothesis. It is mere speculation without any sort of data
or facts to support the speculation. The real problem is there is more than
enough data and facts to stop the speculation. That's why Cremo is
dismissed outside a small Hindu cult.

Exactly, it is all speculation. I didn't quite make it clear that I was
quoting a word from that paragraph, as in
"Cremo hypothesises", etc.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Lu

Post by A little knowledge
Since everything taught by mainstream science is wrong, it is a good
idea to look further into this theory as the possible correct history
of man.
Michael Cremo is easy to listen to.

Lots of people are " easy to listen to". One of the smoothest talkers I
ever saw was a man playing three card monte. I watched him fleece from. A
crowd nearly 1000 dollars in a 10 minutes.
Being easy to listen to doesn't mean a person it right, truthful or honest.

--
Lu

[Thomas Heger]

Post by A little knowledge
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 20:04:26 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

This is funny from coming from Carole, a person which doesn't understand
how knowledge is derived. She neither knows what is is taught is schools
and when shown she refuses to look.
Reminds me of Aesop's fable of the fox and grapes.
Only a fool refuses to look. Until one looks one can not know.

The only problem is that those who go through the higher levels of
education get brainwashed to a certain extent. They lose their
flexibility to consider anything outside the box and to question the
system.
You are getting educated in a system that doesn't allow dissent or
questioning in certain areas, and it can mean the end of a person's
career to do so, eg archaeologists who question that man is older than
100,000 years.
The system is rigged including education.
Whistleblowers and mavericks are dealt with.
Got to keep everybody in line, beginning at the top - no questioning
allowed thankyou.
The man on the street, with a lesser education has more reasoning
abilities to know what is wrong or right, to see what makes sense and
what doesn't, than the highly educated who are straightjacketed into a
set system and aren't allowed to question.
Those at the very top have set the agenda of what people are allowed
to know, the rest is manipulated, suppressed, kept hidden under
national security, cover stories and lies to keep the truth hidden.
Only a fool would think it otherwise.
--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing
"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."

Science is organised in a system called 'academia'. And this system is
similar to that of a church.

(But you could take other sects or cults, which behave in a similar
fashion.)

There is a set of professionals, who defend the 'wisdom of the ancient'.

The most ancient of the professionals gets the highest rank and is
therefore entitled to tell everybody, what is right and wrong.

Who wants to become a fellow sorcerer has to go through carefully
administered brainwashing procedures.

If the 'ancient wisdom' is then flawlessly repeated, the adept gets
initiated.

(If not, the candidate gets a chance to earn his bread as cab driver or
similar.)

Now the accepted apprentice receives a levelled supply of additional
'truth'. And so he is able to prepare for further examinations and
therefore able to climb higher in the hierarchy (if 'smart' enough).

But if someone dares to deviate from the path, the forefathers had
painted, the dissident (heretic, idiot or similar) is expelled and
burned at the stake.

Since outsiders (non-initiates) have no access to secret 'knowledge'
they cannot compete and are therefore no real threat.

If an outsider - nevertheless - finds something in violation of the
'truth', he gets hauled in and the same brainwashing procedures are applied.

This could bring the cult a new apprentice (if successful). Otherwise
the less scientific methods are administered, that would also silence
dissidents.


TH

[A little knowledge]

Post by Thomas Heger

Post by A little knowledge
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 20:04:26 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

This is funny from coming from Carole, a person which doesn't understand
how knowledge is derived. She neither knows what is is taught is schools
and when shown she refuses to look.
Reminds me of Aesop's fable of the fox and grapes.
Only a fool refuses to look. Until one looks one can not know.

The only problem is that those who go through the higher levels of
education get brainwashed to a certain extent. They lose their
flexibility to consider anything outside the box and to question the
system.
You are getting educated in a system that doesn't allow dissent or
questioning in certain areas, and it can mean the end of a person's
career to do so, eg archaeologists who question that man is older than
100,000 years.
The system is rigged including education.
Whistleblowers and mavericks are dealt with.
Got to keep everybody in line, beginning at the top - no questioning
allowed thankyou.
The man on the street, with a lesser education has more reasoning
abilities to know what is wrong or right, to see what makes sense and
what doesn't, than the highly educated who are straightjacketed into a
set system and aren't allowed to question.
Those at the very top have set the agenda of what people are allowed
to know, the rest is manipulated, suppressed, kept hidden under
national security, cover stories and lies to keep the truth hidden.
Only a fool would think it otherwise.
--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing
"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."

Science is organised in a system called 'academia'. And this system is
similar to that of a church.
(But you could take other sects or cults, which behave in a similar
fashion.)
There is a set of professionals, who defend the 'wisdom of the ancient'.
The most ancient of the professionals gets the highest rank and is
therefore entitled to tell everybody, what is right and wrong.
Who wants to become a fellow sorcerer has to go through carefully
administered brainwashing procedures.
If the 'ancient wisdom' is then flawlessly repeated, the adept gets
initiated.
(If not, the candidate gets a chance to earn his bread as cab driver or
similar.)
Now the accepted apprentice receives a levelled supply of additional
'truth'. And so he is able to prepare for further examinations and
therefore able to climb higher in the hierarchy (if 'smart' enough).
But if someone dares to deviate from the path, the forefathers had
painted, the dissident (heretic, idiot or similar) is expelled and
burned at the stake.
Since outsiders (non-initiates) have no access to secret 'knowledge'
they cannot compete and are therefore no real threat.
If an outsider - nevertheless - finds something in violation of the
'truth', he gets hauled in and the same brainwashing procedures are applied.
This could bring the cult a new apprentice (if successful). Otherwise
the less scientific methods are administered, that would also silence
dissidents.
TH

Thanks, good explanation.

[Stick]

Post by A little knowledge
The only problem is that those who go through the higher levels of
education get brainwashed to a certain extent. They lose their
flexibility to consider anything outside the box and to question the
system.

Carole is an idiot.

[Lu]

Post by A little knowledge
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 20:04:26 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Major
On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:20:01 +1100, A little knowledge aka sock of

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Carole is an idiot.

This is funny from coming from Carole, a person which doesn't understand
how knowledge is derived. She neither knows what is is taught is schools
and when shown she refuses to look.
Reminds me of Aesop's fable of the fox and grapes.
Only a fool refuses to look. Until one looks one can not know.

The only problem is that those who go through the higher levels of
education get brainwashed to a certain extent. They lose their
flexibility to consider anything outside the box and to question the
system.

You signed this post "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" and you sure
do live up to that thought.

Post by A little knowledge
You are getting educated in a system that doesn't allow dissent or
questioning in certain areas, and it can mean the end of a person's
career to do so, eg archaeologists who question that man is older than
100,000 years.

And yet we have all those protesters, a good many of them college students,
taking to the streets because they don't agree with something in our system.
As to when that first human lived on earth, I suggest you do a little more
research. According to what I read, Adam showed up about 210,000 years ago
but scientists have recovered human remains that appear to be 400,000 years
old. There is lots more info out there.

Post by A little knowledge
The system is rigged including education.
Whistleblowers and mavericks are dealt with.
Got to keep everybody in line, beginning at the top - no questioning
allowed thankyou.

Here you are again, posting on a subject you don't know anything about to a
group of people who do know about the American education system because they
have experienced it.

Post by A little knowledge
The man on the street, with a lesser education has more reasoning
abilities to know what is wrong or right, to see what makes sense and
what doesn't, than the highly educated who are straightjacketed into a
set system and aren't allowed to question.

All BS. Life is exactly opposite of your claim. The uneducated man on the
street has less reasoning abilities because he does not have ALL the facts.

If you had any ability when it came to reasoning you would not be posting the
nonsense you post every day.

Post by A little knowledge
Those at the very top have set the agenda of what people are allowed
to know, the rest is manipulated, suppressed, kept hidden under
national security, cover stories and lies to keep the truth hidden.
Only a fool would think it otherwise.

Poor Carole.

Post by A little knowledge
--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing

--
Lu

[Bob Officer]

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Not much can be learned from Micheal Cremo.

His blundering around about his relics, when he doesn't understand that
these are naturally shaped objects.

I suspect this ex-dead spent too much time riding around on the magic bus
and eating magic mushrooms and smoking pot.

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Another creation vs evolution crap? From the Holy Church? :)

[A little knowledge]

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 12:05:22 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"

Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang

Post by A little knowledge
Its not worth going to school because of all the crap they teach kids.
So much to unlearn after you've finished getting "an education".

Another creation vs evolution crap? From the Holy Church? :)

Why don't you shut your face dumb boy?

Obviously you don't know anything about how schooling is as much about
mass socialisation as anything and that so much that is taught in
schools is just plain wrong.


--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing


"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."


Circular reasoning, also known as 'Begging the question'
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
eg of Begging the Question
Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God [and god never lies]"


Is Big Pharma Addicted To Fraud?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/


Patents Over Patients
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/opinion/01moss.html
"We could make faster progress against cancer by changing the way
drugs are developed. In the current system, if a promising compound
can’t be patented, it is highly unlikely ever to make it to market"

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

... crap ...

Let's forget about these crap and stop reading about them. There will be
no resolution, except a global war.

The argument between science and religions is about rulership if not
dictatorship. Prepare for war... prepare for war! :)