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Bob Officer
2017-06-07 19:52:14 UTC
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Numbers do matter
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Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:

A little knowledge
2017-06-14 10:39:02 UTC
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 19:52:14 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBuJFdcUQAEmfsr.jpg:large
Numbers do matter
A little simplistic to relate the decrease in numbers to vaccines.

Mass vaccination was introduced after the numbers of these diseases
began to decline.

Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

They cite different things - improved sanitation, cleanliness, better
food, less work - as factors for consideration rather than vaccines.

A picture might say a thousand words but the picture might be wrong
and be saying the wrong thing.

There are no long-term studies to compare overall health of vaccinated
to unvaccinated. People need to do research into the bad effects of
vaccines and the list of people who have received payouts for vaccine
injury. These people represent just a small portion of those injured
as most vaccine injuries go unreported and too often the dots aren't
connected.


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"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/

Circular reasoning, also known as 'Begging the question'
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
eg of Begging the Question
Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God [and god never lies]"


Is Big Pharma Addicted To Fraud?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/


Patents Over Patients
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/opinion/01moss.html
"We could make faster progress against cancer by changing the way
drugs are developed. In the current system, if a promising compound
can’t be patented, it is highly unlikely ever to make it to market"



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Lu
2017-06-14 17:42:31 UTC
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Post by A little knowledge
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 19:52:14 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBuJFdcUQAEmfsr.jpg:large
Numbers do matter
A little simplistic to relate the decrease in numbers to vaccines.
Mass vaccination was introduced after the numbers of these diseases
began to decline.
Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
They cite different things - improved sanitation, cleanliness, better
food, less work - as factors for consideration rather than vaccines.
A picture might say a thousand words but the picture might be wrong
and be saying the wrong thing.
There are no long-term studies to compare overall health of vaccinated
to unvaccinated. People need to do research into the bad effects of
vaccines and the list of people who have received payouts for vaccine
injury. These people represent just a small portion of those injured
as most vaccine injuries go unreported and too often the dots aren't
connected.
So tell us Carole, just how many people have been vaccinated? Now tell us the
total number of those vaccinatedpeople who suffered any injuries from those
vaccinations? Total and exact numbers please.
Bob Officer
2017-06-17 05:54:11 UTC
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Post by A little knowledge
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 19:52:14 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBuJFdcUQAEmfsr.jpg:large
Numbers do matter
A little simplistic to relate the decrease in numbers to vaccines.
Mass vaccination was introduced after the numbers of these diseases
began to decline.
Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
You simply can not get through your thick skull. That so called report made
a major error and confounds the mortality rates and occurrence rates.

The rate of occurrence didn't drop until vaccines came about. The change
was modern hospitals with equipment give IVs and antibiotics. The result
was less children were dying but the side effect was the number children
with Blind Deaf syndrome increased.

After the advent of vaccines the number children with Blind- deaf syndrome
dropped.

Carole every time you repeat this lie, it just make you appear more and
more stupid.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Clay
2017-06-17 11:38:05 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by A little knowledge
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 19:52:14 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBuJFdcUQAEmfsr.jpg:large
Numbers do matter
A little simplistic to relate the decrease in numbers to vaccines.
Mass vaccination was introduced after the numbers of these diseases
began to decline.
Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
You simply can not get through your thick skull. That so called report made
a major error and confounds the mortality rates and occurrence rates.
The rate of occurrence didn't drop until vaccines came about. The change
was modern hospitals with equipment give IVs and antibiotics. The result
was less children were dying but the side effect was the number children
with Blind Deaf syndrome increased.
After the advent of vaccines the number children with Blind- deaf syndrome
dropped.
Carole every time you repeat this lie, it just make you appear more and
more stupid.
She may not understand that it is a lie.
Her mind is closed.
Bob Officer
2017-06-18 05:29:26 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by A little knowledge
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 19:52:14 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBuJFdcUQAEmfsr.jpg:large
Numbers do matter
A little simplistic to relate the decrease in numbers to vaccines.
Mass vaccination was introduced after the numbers of these diseases
began to decline.
Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
You simply can not get through your thick skull. That so called report made
a major error and confounds the mortality rates and occurrence rates.
The rate of occurrence didn't drop until vaccines came about. The change
was modern hospitals with equipment give IVs and antibiotics. The result
was less children were dying but the side effect was the number children
with Blind Deaf syndrome increased.
After the advent of vaccines the number children with Blind- deaf syndrome
dropped.
Carole every time you repeat this lie, it just make you appear more and
more stupid.
She may not understand that it is a lie.
Her mind is closed.
The graph uses words which the author failed to understand. Rate of
morbidity and rate of mortality.

Confounding the two terms is where the error is found. Yes the mortality
rate dropped before the vaccine in some cases, but the morbidity rate
didn't. So why did the deaths start to drop, modern evidence base
treatments stopped the deaths. The result was large numbers of surviving
children which suffered from blind-deaf syndrome and the need to special
schools to train these children increase 100 fold. Now with with vaccines
in California where there was 17 schools now they are three. Why because
less children ever catch measles.

And yes her mind is closed... sealed
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
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2017-06-25 19:15:35 UTC
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On 6/17/2017 1:54 AM, Bob Officer wrote:
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2017-06-25 19:19:01 UTC
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I cannot even begin to express the honor and pride I feel just being near you and all the great work you do.”

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‘I Am Just So Privileged’: Watch Morning Joe Troll Trump’s ‘Sick’ Cabinet Meeting
by Jon Levine | 6:37 am, June 13th, 2017


Morning Joe kicked off their Tuesday show with a none-too-subtle note of mockery toward Donald Trump and the bizarre cabinet meeting he held yesterday in which his senior staff bent over backwards in offering him their praises.

Perennially embattled Chief of Staff, Reince Priebus sounded almost prayerful.

“Your hair looks great today, Joe,” offered show regular Mike Barnicle. “I’m so proud to be here with you.”

Ex-Congressman Harold Ford Jr. got in as well.

“Thank you again Joe and Mika for having us here. I cannot even begin to express the honor and pride I feel just being near you and all the great work you do.”

Even notoriously late-to-the-joke Steve Rattner had a go.

“I am just so privileged. So privileged.” He said.

“Blessed? Are you blessed” Scarborough offered.

“I am blessed. And you are fantastic. There has never been anyone in this job better than you are.”

Very funny kids — Of course, Scarborough quickly reverted back to form, explaining a unique dilemma he and Mika found themselves in.


“Mika and I right now are in a bit of a quandary,” he said. “We decided this weekend that we thought we had been a little too rough and a little too snarky. It got too personal and we needed to report more news and offer less harsh biting criticism.”

He continued.

“And with that in mind, and with that as a backdrop let me just say that was the most sick, shameful, pathetic, unamerican, autocratic display. I will tell you if I were ever in meeting and people did that to me, I would say shut up and I would fire you.”

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http://www.mediaite.com/online/i-am-just-so-privileged-watch-morning-joe-troll-trumps-sick-cabinet-meeting/
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