On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:07:42 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoOn Tue, 13 Dec 2016 19:58:52 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychohttp://leerburg.com/pdf/vaccinosis.pdf
"Ed has owned German Shepherds (GSD) for over 45 years.
This does not make him anything other than a breeder. He is not a vet and
makes zero claims of knowing anything other than breeding dogs.
Yes and no.
There is no no, Carole. Simple reading and understanding what you have read
seems to escape you, doesn't it.
Ed has 45 years experience with owning German Shepard dogs.
Ed is an experienced dog owner.
Ed obviously has been observant towards what makes his dogs healthy
and what doesn't and he chooses to comment on his knowledge.
So yes, in reality he has no official claims to what makes a dog
healthy, but no, he is not as inexperienced as somebody who has not
owned and cared for dogs for 45 years.
To deny the knowledge of an experienced dog breeder is to play the "We
know what is best for your dog", "your experience doesn't count", "you
will listen to us and nobody else" pharmaceutical game.
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoWho has got any experience in knowing anything?
You writing jibberish, now?
Jibberish is defined as "meaningless or unintelligent talk".
You are speaking with arrogance to deny an experienced breeder their
say. Hey but what is new with pharmaceutical science but to over-ride
any opinions but that which comes from "experts".
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoDo people who do courses and pass tests know anything except what
they've been taught -- ie by false lying pharmaceutical-based
medicine?
It is a fair chance that somebody with 45 years of breeding dogs has
some insight into their health and wellbeing.
Or not. Too bad in the US keeping of dogs which have not been properly
Vaccinated for rabies is a criminal offense. Transporting un vaccinated
animals across state lines is a felony in most all states.
Yes, but isn't it true there are laws which are made due to faulty
reasoning, often more to enslave society into more controllable than
anything that helps people?
Dictatorships for example, makes up all sorts of rules and laws that
benefit the dictator rather than the people they rule over.
And since the US is turning into a scientific dictatorship that only
allows research along certain lines, what is the point of citing a law
that comes from such a dictatorship unless you are a fawning pawn?
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoPost by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoSince 1978 he has bred over 350 litters of German working
bloodline GSDs. His dogs work in law enforcement, as
S&R dogs, as competition Schutzhund dogs, and as family
companions and protectors.
Still not a vet.
And the fallacy of appeal to false authority is so easy to spot, he is not a
expert in veterinary medicine no matter how many dogs he has breed or
raised.
And what do vets know except what they've been taught in lying
pharmaceutical-based medicine?
A lot more than a breeder whose description is more like that of an animal
abuser, than anything else. The US kennel industry aka "puppy mills" is one
of the worse possible. You might try to google that term before you
continue to make an idiot of yourself.
I know what a puppy mill is.
You assume everybody that doesn't agree with the current "science" is
an animal abuser rather than respond to the query about whether
vaccinosis is a real disease.
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoI go to the vet here and there, and have been pushed on the "safety
and necessity" of vaccinating animals. I don't believe it due to the
fact that my last dog lived for 20 years without any vaccinations plus
the fact that anybody who follows pharmaceutical medicine has to
realist that there is 100+ years of lies, bullshit and propaganda
behind it.
And I guess you were lucky. Too many canine and feline diseases abound in
the wild. In my family we had working dogs live to a very old age. They
were all fully vaccinated and well cared.
You fail to listen to people who say that vaccinating /over
vaccinating causes health issues ie vaccinosis.
"Being well cared for" is a misnomer as NOT vaccinating or minimal
vaccination might be better healthwise. You combine "pro vaccinating"
with "being well cared for" -- not necessarily correct. We know that
big pharma pushes for vaccinating but that is their business ie to
sell more vaccines. This is the hype the public has been exposed to
for 100+ years that vaccination is good, non-vaccination is bad. There
is no proof. Often there is a trade off where more vaccination can
mean protection from the disease vaccinated against but increase in
other types of disease.
Post by Bob OfficerConsidering they were working
dogs, and not pets or house dogs (although those were also fully vaccinated
also) none of them,had any of the problems reported by this questionable
breeder and puppy mill operator.
Post by Science psychoPost by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoVaccinosis
Do Your Research Before You Vaccinate!!!!!!!
REPORT ANY REACTION YOUR PET HAS TO
Medication to the FDA
** Since I first wrote this article, we have adopted
a no vaccine policy with our own dogs and
puppies**
In many states not vaccinating dogs against rabies is a crime.
There are laws that aren't always good for one reason or another.
Carole rabies is a deadly disease. Not vaccinating a dog for it is dooming
that dog if it ever bites a person. The law requires the dog to be kept
alive and confined for the length Of time for possible rabies incubate and
then. put to death so the spinal column can be tested for rabies.
Rabies is one disease where it is worth vaccinating against.
This is not an acknowledgement that vaccines are necessary for all
diseases, that vaccinosis doesn't exist, or that there aren't
alternative cures for rabies.
Post by Bob OfficerEducate yourself a little before continuing to make an idiot out of
yourself, Carole.
This is a web article for Great Britain.
http://patient.info/doctor/rabies-vaccination
It is just a basic starter no point.
Post by Science psychoSometimes the legislature has laws pushed by pharmaceutical companies,
not because the reasons are true, but because pharmaceutical medicine
is based on lies and bullshit and will pull out all stops to get more
market share and discredit alternative medicine.
What isn't true about rabies?
Rabies is a virus. The vaccine prompts the immune system to fight the
virus. Ideally a healthy immune system would be able to fight a virus
as this is the nature of the immune system ie to fight viruses and
bacteria, even some parasites.
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoPost by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoThe unfortunate thing about vaccinosis is that
Vaccinosis is a not real.
Sure bob.
It isn't and a dog breeder puppy mill operator would be lowest weighted
opinion around. Maybe as low as your own worthless opinions, Carole.
And the words of a pharmaceutical or establishment pawn are based on
lies and faulty science.
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoIs that the best you've got?
Typical pharmaceutical pawn spin.
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychopeople don?t get involved in learning about it
until after there is a problem, and by then it?s
often too late.
"Over the past serial years I have started to
"Serial years"?
Try "several".
I pass on trying anything from you, Carole. Because most of what you have
is worthless.
Likewise bob, your words are merely the words of "experts" you pass on
to others. Often the "experts" are mere mouthpieces for big pharma.
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoPost by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoseriously question what the Veterinary industry
recommends for a regime of vaccinations on our
dogs. I will tell you that I no longer vaccinate my
dogs. I strongly recommend that you research
this issue and not blindly accept the advice of
your local vet, no matter how nice of a person he
or she is.
It is my opinion that vaccinations cause more
His opinion is total unqualified. He is not a vet nor any way a expert on
veterinary medicine.
Who has got any experience bob -- your pharmaceutical spin doctors?
The vets every time. Dog breeds are some of the worst experts on genetics
and animal health in general.
You mean "dog breeders" no doubt.
There is a range of dog breeders, ranging from ignorant to very
astute.
To base all dog breeder experience in the light of the most ignorant
to not accurate or useful.
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoPost by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoproblems than they are supposed to cure.
Here is a basic illustration of why his opinion is worthless. Vaccinations
do not cure, they are preventives.
Do some research bob.
I have.
It seems you haven't.
I have done some research which points to the fact that big pharma has
control of mainstream medicine which is in the interest of its own
profits rather than the health and wellbeing of people or animals.
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoVaccinations are not safe nor are they always effective, sometimes the
cause of epidemics.
That one of most stupid thing you have written.
I might say some stupid things but nothing as stupid as your continual
insistance that mainstream medicine is safe or efficacious.
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoPost by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoMy research indicates that side effects from
His research? Where are his references to his so called and falsely claimed
research?
His words rightly should be assigned no weight and are nothing but totally
unqualified expression of empty thoughts.
Same as parents who notice their children's health deteriorates after
vaccinations, they are not experts either -- so IYO their opinions
don't mean anything either since you only trust "experts" and
"reliable sources".
Actually that claim is as error filled as any other you have ever
mentioned.
But not as error filled as some of your cockamamy comments, eh?
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoPost by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychovaccinations are thyroid problems, epilepsy,
cancer, allergies and behavioral problems just to
mention a few. I would recommend that you do
your own research."
Carole, you seem to take the hook, line and sinker. Every time a bit of
bait is dangled in front of you, you can't help, but swallow the hook.
You can not seem to be able use any critical thinking skills at all.
Bob, you're a pharmaceutical pawn, who only believes words of
"experts" even if these "experts" are peddling spin and propaganda,
you believe them over anything.
Puppy mill owners continue to over inbred dogs, using far too small of a
gene pool. All those I
Los he claims from vaccinations are actually caused by excessive inbreeding
and too small of a gene pool.
Inbreeding is an issue with breeding dogs, same as with people.
To say that all symptoms of vaccinosis are in fact symptoms of
inbreeding is not helpful or necessarily accurate.
Post by Bob OfficerPost by Science psychoRemind me never to take anything you say seriously.
What you write would be funny except you actually believe the nonsense.
Well you don't believe anything yourself except that which comes from
"experts" who are chosen in their fields often because they go along
with mainstream pharmaceutical lies and misinformation ie anybody who
holds an alternative view are tarred as misfits and whackos. So the
mainstream lies continue. Same as with your lying mass media who only
report what is approved by the powers that be and suppress the rest.
--
Science psycho
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