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morbidity vs mortality
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Bob Officer
2017-07-02 02:30:56 UTC
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I saw this link reported recently and felt it was well worthy of
consideration. This is a map of measles deaths in the 1800 in the US. This
is not the incident of infection, but the rate of people dying directly
from the measles infection. Those that died from secondary infections or
years later from organ failure are not counted

http://goo.gl/v9oC4e

The direct link to the Slate article is here:

https://goo.gl/tZ8QNZ

This should,lay to rest the false claim ( or lie) that the number of
infections were falling prior to the measles vaccine. The rate of infection
remained consistent over time. The death rate fell as modern evidence based
medicine, and modern fever reducing and body hydration was developed. The
result was more children surviving the measles and a rapidly growing number
of surviving children with blind deaf syndrome.

The data is there stop believing lies and half truths..
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Enquiring minds want to know
2017-07-08 23:59:38 UTC
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On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 02:30:56 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
I saw this link reported recently and felt it was well worthy of
consideration. This is a map of measles deaths in the 1800 in the US. This
is not the incident of infection, but the rate of people dying directly
from the measles infection. Those that died from secondary infections or
years later from organ failure are not counted
http://goo.gl/v9oC4e
https://goo.gl/tZ8QNZ
This should,lay to rest the false claim ( or lie) that the number of
infections were falling prior to the measles vaccine. The rate of infection
remained consistent over time. The death rate fell as modern evidence based
medicine, and modern fever reducing and body hydration was developed. The
result was more children surviving the measles and a rapidly growing number
of surviving children with blind deaf syndrome.
The data is there stop believing lies and half truths..
You mean, stop believing mainstream which is full of lies and half
truths.

https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

"The main advances in combating disease over 200 years have been
better food and clean drinking water. Improved sanitation, less
overcrowded and better living conditions also contribute.

"Measles mortality graphs are enlightening [more below] and contradict
the claims of Government health officials that vaccines have saved
millions of lives."


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2017-07-09 01:03:57 UTC
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On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 09:59:38 +1000, Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
You mean, stop believing mainstream which is full of lies and half
truths.
WHO in the hell do you think believes THAT shit??

NOT EVEN the trumpster, and HE has far more stake
in saying it than YOU do. Dumbass.
Bob Officer
2017-07-11 01:45:38 UTC
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Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 02:30:56 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
I saw this link reported recently and felt it was well worthy of
consideration. This is a map of measles deaths in the 1800 in the US. This
is not the incident of infection, but the rate of people dying directly
from the measles infection. Those that died from secondary infections or
years later from organ failure are not counted
http://goo.gl/v9oC4e
https://goo.gl/tZ8QNZ
This should,lay to rest the false claim ( or lie) that the number of
infections were falling prior to the measles vaccine. The rate of infection
remained consistent over time. The death rate fell as modern evidence based
medicine, and modern fever reducing and body hydration was developed. The
result was more children surviving the measles and a rapidly growing number
of surviving children with blind deaf syndrome.
The data is there stop believing lies and half truths..
You mean, stop believing mainstream which is full of lies and half
truths.
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
"The main advances in combating disease over 200 years have been
better food and clean drinking water. Improved sanitation, less
overcrowded and better living conditions also contribute.
"Measles mortality graphs are enlightening [more below] and contradict
the claims of Government health officials that vaccines have saved
millions of lives."
Carole that.Is the article with the misleading graphs. The author has been
criticized for misdirection many times.


The drop in mortality due to use of modern hospital facilities, IV and
antibiotics to treat secondary infections. In turn the rate of blind/deaf
syndrome increased to the same degree that mortality drop.

It was only after the vaccine was introduced that the rate of morbidity
dropped and with the drop in morbidity came a drop in blind-deaf syndrome.

The graphs are a misrepresentative n of data and facts, and you are just
too stupid to understand what you are reading.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
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