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Hoiw homeopathy diagnoses illness
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Duncan
2018-11-10 00:16:31 UTC
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How homeopathy diagnoses illness - different to conventional medicine
In homeopathy it is not necessary to know the name of the disease -
just the symptoms. I thought this explanation was good.
Explained below:-
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http://s-scrutton.co.uk/Why_Homeopathy/diagnosing-illness.html
DIAGNOSING ILLNESS

"This website makes use of the disease diagnosis used by conventional
medicine. Most patients who are considering medical treatment will be
aware of this diagnosis which are well known and widely used.

However, homeopaths do not use conventional disease diagnoses to
determine treatment, or to decide on a remedy for patients. Homeopathy
focuses on the individual's symptoms of illness, and on the personal
experience of the patient.

For example, arthritis is a single diagnosis, but sufferers vary
greatly in the way they experience pain. Some are worse at night, some
worse during the day. Some are better for heat, some better for cold.
Some are better for moving, others are better when completely still.
Some get relief from pressure, others cannot bear pressure. In
homeopathy it is these ‘personalised’ symptoms that usually point to
the correct, or matching remedy for the individual patient.
Conventional diagnosis, whether for ‘arthritis’ or any other disease,
is not important.

What this means is that Homeopathy can treat any condition, illness or
disease successfully, regardless of whether it has been diagnosed in
conventional terms, or not. In homeopathy a conventional medical
diagnosis of illness or disease is unnecessary.

This is a distinct advantage for homeopathy. Some patients are told by
conventional doctors that there is “nothing that can be done” without
a diagnosis, or indeed, worse still, that there is “nothing wrong with
them” if conventional diagnostic tests do not show an abnormality, or
indicate a specific, conventionally recognised disease.

In homeopathy, if a patient has symptoms, and if he or she can
describe them accurately, those symptoms can be treated."



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I think you will find that "belief" is a synonym for "opinion".
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2018-11-19 20:05:39 UTC
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Post by Duncan
How homeopathy diagnoses illness - different to conventional medicine
In homeopathy it is not necessary to know the name of the disease -
just the symptoms. I thought this explanation was good.
Explained below:-
-----------------------------
http://s-scrutton.co.uk/Why_Homeopathy/diagnosing-illness.html
DIAGNOSING ILLNESS
"This website makes use of the disease diagnosis used by conventional
medicine. Most patients who are considering medical treatment will be
aware of this diagnosis which are well known and widely used.
However, homeopaths do not use conventional disease diagnoses to
determine treatment, or to decide on a remedy for patients. Homeopathy
focuses on the individual's symptoms of illness, and on the personal
experience of the patient.
For example, arthritis is a single diagnosis, but sufferers vary
greatly in the way they experience pain. Some are worse at night, some
worse during the day. Some are better for heat, some better for cold.
Some are better for moving, others are better when completely still.
Some get relief from pressure, others cannot bear pressure. In
homeopathy it is these ‘personalised’ symptoms that usually point to
the correct, or matching remedy for the individual patient.
Conventional diagnosis, whether for ‘arthritis’ or any other disease,
is not important.
However one should note, homeopathy treatments are know to work no better
than a placebo. And armed with such knowledge, one should discard any such
treatments based upon homeopathy and any diagnostic technique utilized be
people which promote such outright quackery.
Post by Duncan
What this means is that Homeopathy can treat any condition, illness or
disease successfully, regardless of whether it has been diagnosed in
conventional terms, or not. In homeopathy a conventional medical
diagnosis of illness or disease is unnecessary.
However the evidence doesn't show a greater success rate than treatment
with a placebo. In many cases treatment with homeopathy is much worse.
Death is often the result of homeopathic treatments.
Post by Duncan
This is a distinct advantage for homeopathy. Some patients are told by
conventional doctors that there is “nothing that can be done” without
a diagnosis, or indeed, worse still, that there is “nothing wrong with
them” if conventional diagnostic tests do not show an abnormality, or
indicate a specific, conventionally recognised disease.
These are called psychosomatic disease. The class of mental illness is
often treated by nonsensical treatments and placebos. Note many people
which claim to be successful treated by homeopathic remedies are suffering
from a form of mental illness.
Post by Duncan
In homeopathy, if a patient has symptoms, and if he or she can
describe them accurately, those symptoms can be treated."
There is no evidence to support Carole's claim.
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Lu
2018-11-21 00:08:44 UTC
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Post by Duncan
How homeopathy diagnoses illness - different to conventional medicine
In homeopathy it is not necessary to know the name of the disease -
just the symptoms. I thought this explanation was good.
Explained below:-
-----------------------------
http://s-scrutton.co.uk/Why_Homeopathy/diagnosing-illness.html
DIAGNOSING ILLNESS
"This website makes use of the disease diagnosis used by conventional
medicine. Most patients who are considering medical treatment will be
aware of this diagnosis which are well known and widely used.
However, homeopaths do not use conventional disease diagnoses to
determine treatment, or to decide on a remedy for patients. Homeopathy
focuses on the individual's symptoms of illness, and on the personal
experience of the patient.
For example, arthritis is a single diagnosis, but sufferers vary
greatly in the way they experience pain. Some are worse at night, some
worse during the day. Some are better for heat, some better for cold.
Some are better for moving, others are better when completely still.
Some get relief from pressure, others cannot bear pressure. In
homeopathy it is these ‘personalised’ symptoms that usually point to
the correct, or matching remedy for the individual patient.
Conventional diagnosis, whether for ‘arthritis’ or any other disease,
is not important.
However one should note, homeopathy treatments are know to work no better
than a placebo. And armed with such knowledge, one should discard any such
treatments based upon homeopathy and any diagnostic technique utilized be
people which promote such outright quackery.
Post by Duncan
What this means is that Homeopathy can treat any condition, illness or
disease successfully, regardless of whether it has been diagnosed in
conventional terms, or not. In homeopathy a conventional medical
diagnosis of illness or disease is unnecessary.
However the evidence doesn't show a greater success rate than treatment
with a placebo. In many cases treatment with homeopathy is much worse.
Death is often the result of homeopathic treatments.
Post by Duncan
This is a distinct advantage for homeopathy. Some patients are told by
conventional doctors that there is “nothing that can be done” without
a diagnosis, or indeed, worse still, that there is “nothing wrong with
them” if conventional diagnostic tests do not show an abnormality, or
indicate a specific, conventionally recognised disease.
These are called psychosomatic disease. The class of mental illness is
often treated by nonsensical treatments and placebos. Note many people
which claim to be successful treated by homeopathic remedies are suffering
from a form of mental illness.
Post by Duncan
In homeopathy, if a patient has symptoms, and if he or she can
describe them accurately, those symptoms can be treated."
There is no evidence to support Carole's claim.
What happens to that little kid who can't tell mommie what hurts. How is he
going to be treated? Carole failed to mention how those symptoms will be
treated if the patient is unable to describe the symptom accurately.

Does not really matter what kind of medicine is being practiced or who is
practicing it. A list of symptoms will elicit a diagnosis. The difference
between the BS Carole is throwing and modern medicine is that indicated
tests, etc. with a description of symptoms gets a diagnosis that has a
better chance of being correct then Carole's uneducated guess.
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