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Its all bob's fault
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Mindless Dribble
2017-08-08 08:37:11 UTC
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Its all bob's fault - yes it is!

Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.

Admit it bob - you're a yesman!

Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".

The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.

Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.


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Just mindlessly spouting more and more meaningless dribble.

Dispelling vaccination myths
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/esp_salud33l.htm

Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

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2017-08-08 21:08:58 UTC
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2017 18:37:11 +1000, Mindless Dribble
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
It IS all CooCoo Carole's fault,
because Carole AND all her socks are DUMBASS,
in the newer and more complete Briggs-Meyer.
Bob Officer
2017-08-09 00:00:59 UTC
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Post by m***@privacy.net
On Tue, 08 Aug 2017 18:37:11 +1000, Mindless Dribble
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
It IS all CooCoo Carole's fault,
because Carole AND all her socks are DUMBASS,
in the newer and more complete Briggs-Meyer.
Any claim or put down she can come up with using Myers-Briggs is pretty
much toothless and like threatening a person with a ghost.

Pathetic... that's what she has become, old tired and very trite.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
For obvious reasons
2017-08-14 00:44:21 UTC
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2017 18:37:11 +1000, Mindless Dribble
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
It IS all CooCoo Carole's fault,
because Carole AND all her socks are DUMBASS,
in the newer and more complete Briggs-Meyer.
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Its a scientific fact that its all bob's fault -- isn't the definition
of scientific when most people agree on something, ie consensus.

Ha ha ha ... its all bob's fault -- its scientific !!



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For obvious reasons

Why modern healthcare is in such a shambles
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/the-ph-miracle-for-cancer.html

1953 Fitzgerald Report - Suppressed Cancer Treatments
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2007/04/03/1953_fitzgerald_report_suppressed_cancer_treatments.htm

A conspiracy to destroy natural medicine and profit from sickness and
disease
The history of medical suppression in America can be traced back to
the Rockefeller Foundation and the rise of the American Medical
Association, led by a sociopathic, arrogant huckster named Dr.
Fishbein. Working in conspiracy to destroy natural medicine and
chiropractic medicine, these criminal institutions gave rise to
allopathic medicine which is currently responsible for the mass
killing of at least one million people per year.
http://www.naturalnews.com/052981_medical_monopoly_government_censorship_marijuana.html


Can My Doctor Get Into Big Legal Trouble by Offering Natural Health
Treatments?
http://www.anh-usa.org/readers-corner-can-doctor-get-into-trouble-offering-natural-treatments/

How Pharmaceuticals Came To Be The 4th Leading Cause Of Death In
America
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/11/20/how-pharmaceuticals-came-to-be-the-4th-leading-cause-of-death-in-america/

What is the Leading Cause of Death in U.S. ?
http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/what-is-the-leading-cause-of-death-in-u-s/

"The Science of Getting It Wrong: How to Deal with False Research
Findings
Ioannidis says that researchers have become increasingly sophisticated
at acquiring large amounts of data from genomics and other studies,
and at spinning it in different ways—much like TV weathercasters
proclaiming every day a record-setting meteorological event of some
sort. As a result, he says, it is easy to come up with findings that
are "significant" in the statistical sense, yet not scientifically
valid."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-of-getting-it/
Bob Officer
2017-08-09 00:00:58 UTC
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Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.

I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity

Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:

Mindless Dribble
2017-08-15 00:34:21 UTC
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.

What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?

Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?

Yes, you can laugh your way through life, pass people off as kooks who
question the rotten-ness, but in reality the system is broken.




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Just mindlessly spouting more and more meaningless dribble.

Dispelling vaccination myths
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/esp_salud33l.htm

Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

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Lu
2017-08-15 03:37:25 UTC
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Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
Bob Officer
2017-08-15 18:18:38 UTC
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Post by Lu
Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
That bias of all ready having an blame or cause indicates she is not open
minded and can not subjectively or objectively make any valid conclusion.
The fact she doesn't have any real economic background or even a slight
clue about the economy or what drives the economy makes any opinion she
hams totally worthless.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Blind Freddie
2017-08-31 02:12:54 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:18:38 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
That bias of all ready having an blame or cause indicates she is not open
minded and can not subjectively or objectively make any valid conclusion.
The fact she doesn't have any real economic background or even a slight
clue about the economy or what drives the economy makes any opinion she
hams totally worthless.
Bob exposes himself as an establishment whore.
Only those with "expert" knowledge are qualified to comment ie only
those educated in the corrupt system.


Alternatively, the general public aren't qualified to comment on
anything since they haven't got "expert" knowledge.


--
Blind Freddie
"None so blind as those who will not see"

7 Massive Misconceptions Many Never Question
http://tinyurl.com/jg9jay3

A brief history of FDA raids against providers of natural health
products
https://thebovine.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/a-brief-history-of-fda-raids-against-providers-of-natural-health-products/

Tyranny in the USA: The true history of FDA raids on healers, vitamin
shops and supplement companies
http://www.naturalnews.com/021791.html

The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry
http://tinyurl.com/zgmi


DDT
"A former high official at the NSA (National Security Agency) told me
about a protocol informally dubbed DDT - that old poisonous chemical
long-banned in much of the world. In this application, it stands for
Decoy, Distract and Trash - which is what sophisticated intelligence
operatives use to set up some person or group, take them off the trail
of something real and important, and trash the person or the
subject." -- Stephen Greer.


Suppression of dissent in science
Brian Martin / Research in Social Problems and Public Policy, Volume 7
1999
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Suppression-Dissent-Science.htm


Pan Pharmaceuticals
The founder of Pan Pharmaceuticals, the company which had its licence
withdrawn by the Therapeutic Goods Administration in 2003, has
received a record $50 million payout from the Federal Government.
- Founder 'blameless'
- 400 jobs lost
- Public inquiry wanted
Jim Selim had sued the TGA for compensation for ruining his business,
claiming public servants had acted outside their power and with
vengeance when withdrawing the licence after concerns over certain
products and manufacturing processes.
TGA shareholders lost $350 million, almost 400 people lost their jobs,
and Pan's customers lost hundreds of millions of dollars in business,
Mr Selim's lawyer Andrew Thorpe said outside the court today.
http://tinyurl.com/p8nkyco


Cover Stories invented to engineer public opinions
"Many people have been so concerned about what has been happening to
our Government that they have dedicated themselves to investigating
and exposing its evils. Unfortunately, a number of these writers have
been dupes of those cleverer than they or with sinister reasons for
concealing knowledge. They have written what they thought was the
truth, only to find out (if they ever did find out) that they had been
fed a lot of contrived cover stories and just plain hogwash. In this
book I have taken extracts from some of this writing and, line by
line, have shown how it has been manipulated to give a semblance of
truth while at the same time being contrived and false. " -- The
Secret Team, Fletcher L. Prouty,
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/USO/appA.html 


The FDA is Running an Extortion Racket
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/13/the-fda-is-running-an-extortion-racket.aspx
"The FDA has been targeting supplement makers for some time, claiming
it’s all in the interest of public safety. But it doesn’t take much
investigation to realize what’s really going on: the FDA isn’t
interested in protecting you -- they’re interested in protecting the
pharmaceutical industry."


NCI's revolving door with the cancer industry
http://www.cancerdefeated.com/newsletters/How-Conspiracy-and-Fraud-Sabotage-the-War-on-Cancer.html

Modern schooling and the war against competition
http://tinyurl.com/o4bv7e6



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Bob Officer
2017-08-31 03:19:19 UTC
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Post by Blind Freddie
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:18:38 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
That bias of all ready having an blame or cause indicates she is not open
minded and can not subjectively or objectively make any valid conclusion.
The fact she doesn't have any real economic background or even a slight
clue about the economy or what drives the economy makes any opinion she
hams totally worthless.
Bob exposes himself as an establishment whore.
Oh well, if understanding a subject isn't good enough for you, killfile me.
Post by Blind Freddie
Only those with "expert" knowledge are qualified to comment ie only
those educated in the corrupt system.
WRT the MBTI, the premise was made up out of whole cloth, there was zero
experimental or data gathering during the two novel writers that created
it. Sorry that is the factual history of the so called personality test. It
has always been an indicator or nothing. So it has zero value. The testing
service only escaped lawsuits going back to when it was 1st used because
any criminal claims had expired.
Post by Blind Freddie
Alternatively, the general public aren't qualified to comment on
anything since they haven't got "expert" knowledge.
I don't know where you get that idea. However without a good knowledge base
to have a clue what is being discuss, the general public usually defers to
people that have earned a degree of expertise.

No one should pay attention to a janitor when it come time to discuss
particle physics with out some very good reason.

Likewise they should not take health or medical advice from a person with
zero educational background in that field.

I have been reading a book about the origins and history of the IQ test. It
isn't pretty. There are some very ugly stories including the fact it was
use to sterilize about 60,000 people in the early 1900s.

No IQ test ever written is totally free of cultural bias. Cultural
knowledge is not Intelligence. While I have always scored in the upper
percentile, I never thought much about it.

See Carole you go on and on about things you feel are significant, but they
aren't. When it comes to anyone giving your Usenet articles any weight is
the discussion, you are generally dismissed as a total dunce.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Blind Freddie
2017-09-16 03:46:49 UTC
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:19:19 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:18:38 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
That bias of all ready having an blame or cause indicates she is not open
minded and can not subjectively or objectively make any valid conclusion.
The fact she doesn't have any real economic background or even a slight
clue about the economy or what drives the economy makes any opinion she
hams totally worthless.
Bob exposes himself as an establishment whore.
Oh well, if understanding a subject isn't good enough for you, killfile me.
Post by Blind Freddie
Only those with "expert" knowledge are qualified to comment ie only
those educated in the corrupt system.
WRT the MBTI, the premise was made up out of whole cloth, there was zero
experimental or data gathering during the two novel writers that created
it. Sorry that is the factual history of the so called personality test. It
has always been an indicator or nothing. So it has zero value. The testing
service only escaped lawsuits going back to when it was 1st used because
any criminal claims had expired.
There is a certified program to qualify people as consultants on the
MBTI.

https://www.mbtimasterpractitioner.org/mbti-certification-training-programs.htm
"MBTI® Certification Program

The MBTI® Certification Program delivers the foundational knowledge
you need for effectively administering and interpreting the most
respected personality assessment in the world, the Myers-Briggs Type
Indicator® (MBTI®) instrument.

The MBTI® instrument is a restricted assessment, meaning it can only
be purchased and used by those who meet certain requirements. Program
participants who successfully complete an MBTI® Certification Program
satisfy these requirements.

Certified MBTI professionals use this powerful tool to help others in
such areas as:

Personal growth and development
Career exploration and search
Executive coaching
Team building, and
Leadership development "
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
Alternatively, the general public aren't qualified to comment on
anything since they haven't got "expert" knowledge.
I don't know where you get that idea. However without a good knowledge base
to have a clue what is being discuss, the general public usually defers to
people that have earned a degree of expertise.
The public get over-ridden on certain topics, disregarding their
experience and putting it down to imagination or placebo.
Only qualified establishment-approved people, who have been trained in
mind-controlled schools of learning which follow approved theories are
allowed to have input on certain topics.
Post by Bob Officer
No one should pay attention to a janitor when it come time to discuss
particle physics with out some very good reason.
Maybe not - but the general public should be listened to when they
complain that things aren't working out according to the rules of
fairplay, or don't match up with all the corporate and government spin
on a topic such as vaccination or global warming.
Post by Bob Officer
Likewise they should not take health or medical advice from a person with
zero educational background in that field.
There is a difference between advice or research and discussion with
peers. If a person discusses with others, does some ressearch and
discovers that what mainstream esperts are pushing is hype and spin,
then it is fair enough to say the system is rigged and people are
being fed a load of steaming hot crap.
Post by Bob Officer
I have been reading a book about the origins and history of the IQ test. It
isn't pretty. There are some very ugly stories including the fact it was
use to sterilize about 60,000 people in the early 1900s.
I also have read such things, that a person may score high in one
culture and not so high in another. However, IQ will come through
eventually in any culture. IQ is the measure of how well a person
adapts to their environment and in turn how well they survive in any
situation. Those who adapt and innovate will always score higher than
those who don't.
Post by Bob Officer
No IQ test ever written is totally free of cultural bias. Cultural
knowledge is not Intelligence. While I have always scored in the upper
percentile, I never thought much about it.
Sure bob, but your learning is book learning - you learn off rote.
Post by Bob Officer
See Carole you go on and on about things you feel are significant, but they
aren't. When it comes to anyone giving your Usenet articles any weight is
the discussion, you are generally dismissed as a total dunce.
The topic of health and vaccination is important.
Putting fluoride into people's drinking water to make them docile for
example, or mercury and other additives into vaccines to dull people
down, is an important topic.

If you don't think this matters, prove it.
The government doesn't care because it has made zero effort to account
for autism.


--
Blind Freddie
"None so blind as those who will not see"

7 Massive Misconceptions Many Never Question
http://tinyurl.com/jg9jay3

A brief history of FDA raids against providers of natural health
products
https://thebovine.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/a-brief-history-of-fda-raids-against-providers-of-natural-health-products/

Tyranny in the USA: The true history of FDA raids on healers, vitamin
shops and supplement companies
http://www.naturalnews.com/021791.html

The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry
http://tinyurl.com/zgmi


DDT
"A former high official at the NSA (National Security Agency) told me
about a protocol informally dubbed DDT - that old poisonous chemical
long-banned in much of the world. In this application, it stands for
Decoy, Distract and Trash - which is what sophisticated intelligence
operatives use to set up some person or group, take them off the trail
of something real and important, and trash the person or the
subject." -- Stephen Greer.


Suppression of dissent in science
Brian Martin / Research in Social Problems and Public Policy, Volume 7
1999
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Suppression-Dissent-Science.htm


Pan Pharmaceuticals
The founder of Pan Pharmaceuticals, the company which had its licence
withdrawn by the Therapeutic Goods Administration in 2003, has
received a record $50 million payout from the Federal Government.
- Founder 'blameless'
- 400 jobs lost
- Public inquiry wanted
Jim Selim had sued the TGA for compensation for ruining his business,
claiming public servants had acted outside their power and with
vengeance when withdrawing the licence after concerns over certain
products and manufacturing processes.
TGA shareholders lost $350 million, almost 400 people lost their jobs,
and Pan's customers lost hundreds of millions of dollars in business,
Mr Selim's lawyer Andrew Thorpe said outside the court today.
http://tinyurl.com/p8nkyco


Cover Stories invented to engineer public opinions
"Many people have been so concerned about what has been happening to
our Government that they have dedicated themselves to investigating
and exposing its evils. Unfortunately, a number of these writers have
been dupes of those cleverer than they or with sinister reasons for
concealing knowledge. They have written what they thought was the
truth, only to find out (if they ever did find out) that they had been
fed a lot of contrived cover stories and just plain hogwash. In this
book I have taken extracts from some of this writing and, line by
line, have shown how it has been manipulated to give a semblance of
truth while at the same time being contrived and false. " -- The
Secret Team, Fletcher L. Prouty,
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/USO/appA.html 


The FDA is Running an Extortion Racket
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/13/the-fda-is-running-an-extortion-racket.aspx
"The FDA has been targeting supplement makers for some time, claiming
it’s all in the interest of public safety. But it doesn’t take much
investigation to realize what’s really going on: the FDA isn’t
interested in protecting you -- they’re interested in protecting the
pharmaceutical industry."


NCI's revolving door with the cancer industry
http://www.cancerdefeated.com/newsletters/How-Conspiracy-and-Fraud-Sabotage-the-War-on-Cancer.html

Modern schooling and the war against competition
http://tinyurl.com/o4bv7e6








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2017-09-16 15:44:24 UTC
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Post by Blind Freddie
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:19:19 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:18:38 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs
and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on
evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a
SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
That bias of all ready having an blame or cause indicates she is not open
minded and can not subjectively or objectively make any valid conclusion.
The fact she doesn't have any real economic background or even a slight
clue about the economy or what drives the economy makes any opinion she
hams totally worthless.
Bob exposes himself as an establishment whore.
Oh well, if understanding a subject isn't good enough for you, killfile me.
Post by Blind Freddie
Only those with "expert" knowledge are qualified to comment ie only
those educated in the corrupt system.
WRT the MBTI, the premise was made up out of whole cloth, there was zero
experimental or data gathering during the two novel writers that created
it. Sorry that is the factual history of the so called personality test. It
has always been an indicator or nothing. So it has zero value. The testing
service only escaped lawsuits going back to when it was 1st used because
any criminal claims had expired.
There is a certified program to qualify people as consultants on the
MBTI.
https://www.mbtimasterpractitioner.org/mbti-certification-training-programs.ht
m
"MBTI® Certification Program
The MBTI® Certification Program delivers the foundational knowledge
you need for effectively administering and interpreting the most
respected personality assessment in the world, the Myers-Briggs Type
Indicator® (MBTI®) instrument.
The MBTI® instrument is a restricted assessment, meaning it can only
be purchased and used by those who meet certain requirements. Program
participants who successfully complete an MBTI® Certification Program
satisfy these requirements.
Certified MBTI professionals use this powerful tool to help others in
Personal growth and development
Career exploration and search
Executive coaching
Team building, and
Leadership development "
So, you think that a certified program offered by MBTI makes MBTI legit?????
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
Alternatively, the general public aren't qualified to comment on
anything since they haven't got "expert" knowledge.
I don't know where you get that idea. However without a good knowledge base
to have a clue what is being discuss, the general public usually defers to
people that have earned a degree of expertise.
The public get over-ridden on certain topics, disregarding their
experience and putting it down to imagination or placebo.
Only qualified establishment-approved people, who have been trained in
mind-controlled schools of learning which follow approved theories are
allowed to have input on certain topics.
Post by Bob Officer
No one should pay attention to a janitor when it come time to discuss
particle physics with out some very good reason.
Maybe not - but the general public should be listened to when they
complain that things aren't working out according to the rules of
fairplay, or don't match up with all the corporate and government spin
on a topic such as vaccination or global warming.
It is only the crackpots that no one hears.
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
Likewise they should not take health or medical advice from a person with
zero educational background in that field.
There is a difference between advice or research and discussion with
peers. If a person discusses with others, does some ressearch and
discovers that what mainstream esperts are pushing is hype and spin,
then it is fair enough to say the system is rigged and people are
being fed a load of steaming hot crap.
Post by Bob Officer
I have been reading a book about the origins and history of the IQ test. It
isn't pretty. There are some very ugly stories including the fact it was
use to sterilize about 60,000 people in the early 1900s.
I also have read such things, that a person may score high in one
culture and not so high in another. However, IQ will come through
eventually in any culture. IQ is the measure of how well a person
adapts to their environment and in turn how well they survive in any
situation. Those who adapt and innovate will always score higher than
those who don't.
Post by Bob Officer
No IQ test ever written is totally free of cultural bias. Cultural
knowledge is not Intelligence. While I have always scored in the upper
percentile, I never thought much about it.
Sure bob, but your learning is book learning - you learn off rote.
But I would bet that he learns more from just living and surviving day to
day.
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
See Carole you go on and on about things you feel are significant, but they
aren't. When it comes to anyone giving your Usenet articles any weight is
the discussion, you are generally dismissed as a total dunce.
The topic of health and vaccination is important.
Putting fluoride into people's drinking water to make them docile for
example, or mercury and other additives into vaccines to dull people
down, is an important topic.
If you don't think this matters, prove it.
The government doesn't care because it has made zero effort to account
for autism.
It matters only to you. When you prove any of your claims, we might start to
think about it.
Bob Officer
2017-09-30 00:35:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:19:19 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:18:38 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
That bias of all ready having an blame or cause indicates she is not open
minded and can not subjectively or objectively make any valid conclusion.
The fact she doesn't have any real economic background or even a slight
clue about the economy or what drives the economy makes any opinion she
hams totally worthless.
Bob exposes himself as an establishment whore.
Oh well, if understanding a subject isn't good enough for you, killfile me.
Post by Blind Freddie
Only those with "expert" knowledge are qualified to comment ie only
those educated in the corrupt system.
WRT the MBTI, the premise was made up out of whole cloth, there was zero
experimental or data gathering during the two novel writers that created
it. Sorry that is the factual history of the so called personality test. It
has always been an indicator or nothing. So it has zero value. The testing
service only escaped lawsuits going back to when it was 1st used because
any criminal claims had expired.
There is a certified program to qualify people as consultants on the
MBTI.
https://www.mbtimasterpractitioner.org/mbti-certification-training-programs.ht
m
"MBTI® Certification Program
The MBTI® Certification Program delivers the foundational knowledge
you need for effectively administering and interpreting the most
respected personality assessment in the world, the Myers-Briggs Type
Indicator® (MBTI®) instrument.
The MBTI® instrument is a restricted assessment, meaning it can only
be purchased and used by those who meet certain requirements. Program
participants who successfully complete an MBTI® Certification Program
satisfy these requirements.
Certified MBTI professionals use this powerful tool to help others in
Personal growth and development
Career exploration and search
Executive coaching
Team building, and
Leadership development "
So, you think that a certified program offered by MBTI makes MBTI legit?????
Clayton College also,certified they were a real college, too. Even though
it held no classes and employed no instructors.
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
Alternatively, the general public aren't qualified to comment on
anything since they haven't got "expert" knowledge.
I don't know where you get that idea. However without a good knowledge base
to have a clue what is being discuss, the general public usually defers to
people that have earned a degree of expertise.
The public get over-ridden on certain topics, disregarding their
experience and putting it down to imagination or placebo.
Only qualified establishment-approved people, who have been trained in
mind-controlled schools of learning which follow approved theories are
allowed to have input on certain topics.
Post by Bob Officer
No one should pay attention to a janitor when it come time to discuss
particle physics with out some very good reason.
Maybe not - but the general public should be listened to when they
complain that things aren't working out according to the rules of
fairplay, or don't match up with all the corporate and government spin
on a topic such as vaccination or global warming.
It is only the crackpots that no one hears.
I wonder if she is still a big trump supporter?
Most all of his cabinet is either from Goldman Sachs or are ex congressmen
and senators. News is coming down the pike that total of 16 members are
going to be indicted with changes and another 11 are scrambling for
lawyers. Another one resigned today after he was caught taking free flights
on the government tab for over a million dollars in value. Trump's golfing
trips has exhausted the secret service budget for this and next year. And
the new tax bill will give Trump himself a billion dollar tax break. Most
all of family and cabinet members will get another 1.3 billion dollars of
tax breaks.

This so called tax reform will shift 3/4 of the tax burden on the lower 1/4
of all income. But the 95% of all income and wealth ends up to the 0.1% of
the population's pockets.
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
Likewise they should not take health or medical advice from a person with
zero educational background in that field.
There is a difference between advice or research and discussion with
peers. If a person discusses with others, does some ressearch and
discovers that what mainstream esperts are pushing is hype and spin,
then it is fair enough to say the system is rigged and people are
being fed a load of steaming hot crap.
Post by Bob Officer
I have been reading a book about the origins and history of the IQ test. It
isn't pretty. There are some very ugly stories including the fact it was
use to sterilize about 60,000 people in the early 1900s.
I also have read such things, that a person may score high in one
culture and not so high in another. However, IQ will come through
eventually in any culture. IQ is the measure of how well a person
adapts to their environment and in turn how well they survive in any
situation. Those who adapt and innovate will always score higher than
those who don't.
Actually that's a myth. The IQ is arbitrary and there is not statistical
support for that claim.
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
No IQ test ever written is totally free of cultural bias. Cultural
knowledge is not Intelligence. While I have always scored in the upper
percentile, I never thought much about it.
Sure bob, but your learning is book learning - you learn off rote.
But I would bet that he learns more from just living and surviving day to
day.
Most all my learning was a mix of classrooms and labs or field work.
Learning about trigonometry and then working on a student survey crew.
Classroom work in chemistry and then lab work which reaffirmed the class
work. Dozens of student doing qualitative and quantitive analysis on an
blinded substance, unknown to both the instructor and students. Electronics
was taught the same way, classroom followed by hands on lab work where
principles were tested and put into practice.

Even my English classes were book push writing labs, public speaking worked
the same way. Almost every course work consisted of Class + Hands on
practical work.
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
See Carole you go on and on about things you feel are significant, but they
aren't. When it comes to anyone giving your Usenet articles any weight is
the discussion, you are generally dismissed as a total dunce.
The topic of health and vaccination is important.
Putting fluoride into people's drinking water to make them docile for
example, or mercury and other additives into vaccines to dull people
down, is an important topic.
If you don't think this matters, prove it.
The government doesn't care because it has made zero effort to account
for autism.
It matters only to you. When you prove any of your claims, we might start to
think about it.
Really? I know of dozens of groups doing lots of research on causes of
autism. Current the cause for about 45 of all autism is shown to be de nova
mutations.

We know that autism is not caused by vaccines, or gluten. We know it tends
to happen when one of parents are older than 30 and it is mothers didn't
have 1st child until after they are 25. We also know about 1/3 of current
so called autism cases are actually fetal alcohol syndrome or from mothers
that were recreational drug users. We also know that in 20% of all cases
tobacco use in by one or more parent. In the last 45 years 95% of all
autistic child are born to parents which used ball point pens, 85% of
those parents flew in planes. 100% traveled in vehicles which went fast
than60 mph.

When Carole say no research is being done she is just echoing what someone
else told her without checking that source.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Enquiring minds want to know
2017-10-12 20:51:44 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:35:21 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:19:19 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:18:38 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
That bias of all ready having an blame or cause indicates she is not open
minded and can not subjectively or objectively make any valid conclusion.
The fact she doesn't have any real economic background or even a slight
clue about the economy or what drives the economy makes any opinion she
hams totally worthless.
Bob exposes himself as an establishment whore.
Oh well, if understanding a subject isn't good enough for you, killfile me.
Post by Blind Freddie
Only those with "expert" knowledge are qualified to comment ie only
those educated in the corrupt system.
WRT the MBTI, the premise was made up out of whole cloth, there was zero
experimental or data gathering during the two novel writers that created
it. Sorry that is the factual history of the so called personality test. It
has always been an indicator or nothing. So it has zero value. The testing
service only escaped lawsuits going back to when it was 1st used because
any criminal claims had expired.
There is a certified program to qualify people as consultants on the
MBTI.
https://www.mbtimasterpractitioner.org/mbti-certification-training-programs.ht
m
"MBTI® Certification Program
The MBTI® Certification Program delivers the foundational knowledge
you need for effectively administering and interpreting the most
respected personality assessment in the world, the Myers-Briggs Type
Indicator® (MBTI®) instrument.
The MBTI® instrument is a restricted assessment, meaning it can only
be purchased and used by those who meet certain requirements. Program
participants who successfully complete an MBTI® Certification Program
satisfy these requirements.
Certified MBTI professionals use this powerful tool to help others in
Personal growth and development
Career exploration and search
Executive coaching
Team building, and
Leadership development "
So, you think that a certified program offered by MBTI makes MBTI legit?????
Clayton College also,certified they were a real college, too. Even though
it held no classes and employed no instructors.
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
Alternatively, the general public aren't qualified to comment on
anything since they haven't got "expert" knowledge.
I don't know where you get that idea. However without a good knowledge base
to have a clue what is being discuss, the general public usually defers to
people that have earned a degree of expertise.
The public get over-ridden on certain topics, disregarding their
experience and putting it down to imagination or placebo.
Only qualified establishment-approved people, who have been trained in
mind-controlled schools of learning which follow approved theories are
allowed to have input on certain topics.
Post by Bob Officer
No one should pay attention to a janitor when it come time to discuss
particle physics with out some very good reason.
Maybe not - but the general public should be listened to when they
complain that things aren't working out according to the rules of
fairplay, or don't match up with all the corporate and government spin
on a topic such as vaccination or global warming.
It is only the crackpots that no one hears.
I wonder if she is still a big trump supporter?
Most all of his cabinet is either from Goldman Sachs or are ex congressmen
and senators. News is coming down the pike that total of 16 members are
going to be indicted with changes and another 11 are scrambling for
lawyers. Another one resigned today after he was caught taking free flights
on the government tab for over a million dollars in value. Trump's golfing
trips has exhausted the secret service budget for this and next year. And
the new tax bill will give Trump himself a billion dollar tax break. Most
all of family and cabinet members will get another 1.3 billion dollars of
tax breaks.
This so called tax reform will shift 3/4 of the tax burden on the lower 1/4
of all income. But the 95% of all income and wealth ends up to the 0.1% of
the population's pockets.
Trump has to select his cabinet from a pool of people pre-selected by
some government body.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
Likewise they should not take health or medical advice from a person with
zero educational background in that field.
There is a difference between advice or research and discussion with
peers. If a person discusses with others, does some ressearch and
discovers that what mainstream esperts are pushing is hype and spin,
then it is fair enough to say the system is rigged and people are
being fed a load of steaming hot crap.
Post by Bob Officer
I have been reading a book about the origins and history of the IQ test. It
isn't pretty. There are some very ugly stories including the fact it was
use to sterilize about 60,000 people in the early 1900s.
I also have read such things, that a person may score high in one
culture and not so high in another. However, IQ will come through
eventually in any culture. IQ is the measure of how well a person
adapts to their environment and in turn how well they survive in any
situation. Those who adapt and innovate will always score higher than
those who don't.
Actually that's a myth. The IQ is arbitrary and there is not statistical
support for that claim.
But it makes sense.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
No IQ test ever written is totally free of cultural bias. Cultural
knowledge is not Intelligence. While I have always scored in the upper
percentile, I never thought much about it.
Sure bob, but your learning is book learning - you learn off rote.
But I would bet that he learns more from just living and surviving day to
day.
Most all my learning was a mix of classrooms and labs or field work.
Learning about trigonometry and then working on a student survey crew.
Classroom work in chemistry and then lab work which reaffirmed the class
work. Dozens of student doing qualitative and quantitive analysis on an
blinded substance, unknown to both the instructor and students. Electronics
was taught the same way, classroom followed by hands on lab work where
principles were tested and put into practice.
Even my English classes were book push writing labs, public speaking worked
the same way. Almost every course work consisted of Class + Hands on
practical work.
That's wonderful and I so admire people who can work through problems
and come up with innovative solutions.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
See Carole you go on and on about things you feel are significant, but they
aren't. When it comes to anyone giving your Usenet articles any weight is
the discussion, you are generally dismissed as a total dunce.
The topic of health and vaccination is important.
Putting fluoride into people's drinking water to make them docile for
example, or mercury and other additives into vaccines to dull people
down, is an important topic.
If you don't think this matters, prove it.
The government doesn't care because it has made zero effort to account
for autism.
It matters only to you. When you prove any of your claims, we might start to
think about it.
Really? I know of dozens of groups doing lots of research on causes of
autism. Current the cause for about 45 of all autism is shown to be de nova
mutations.
Its either genetic or environmental.
Since its occurring in a sharp increase in numbers over a short
period, this rules out genetic which takes a longer time to evolve.
Post by Bob Officer
We know that autism is not caused by vaccines, or gluten. We know it tends
to happen when one of parents are older than 30 and it is mothers didn't
have 1st child until after they are 25. We also know about 1/3 of current
so called autism cases are actually fetal alcohol syndrome or from mothers
that were recreational drug users. We also know that in 20% of all cases
tobacco use in by one or more parent. In the last 45 years 95% of all
autistic child are born to parents which used ball point pens, 85% of
those parents flew in planes. 100% traveled in vehicles which went fast
than60 mph.
We don't know these things at all.
These are the excuses used to throw people off the track, red
herrings.
There are many cases where kids have turned autistic within a short
period of vaccination.
Post by Bob Officer
When Carole say no research is being done she is just echoing what someone
else told her without checking that source.
bullshit.
There is no research being done except by pharmaceutical interests to
excuse their products and blame the victims, eg "vaccines don't cause
autism".

--
Enquiring minds want to know

The pharmaceutical industry is based on myths and lies
http://www.pharmamyths.net/

Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://www.pharmamyths.net/files/JLME_ARTICLE_2013.pdf

Big Pharma Pockets $711 Billion in Profits by Price-Gouging Taxpayers
and Seniors
http://healthcareforamericanow.org/2013/04/08/pharma-711-billion-profits-price-gouging-seniors/

Pharmaceutical Companies Spent 19 Times More On Self-Promotion Than
Basic Research: Report
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/pharmaceutical-companies-marketing_n_1760380.html








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On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:35:21 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:19:19 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:18:38 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on
evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
That bias of all ready having an blame or cause indicates she is not open
minded and can not subjectively or objectively make any valid conclusion.
The fact she doesn't have any real economic background or even a slight
clue about the economy or what drives the economy makes any opinion she
hams totally worthless.
Bob exposes himself as an establishment whore.
Oh well, if understanding a subject isn't good enough for you, killfile me.
Post by Blind Freddie
Only those with "expert" knowledge are qualified to comment ie only
those educated in the corrupt system.
WRT the MBTI, the premise was made up out of whole cloth, there was zero
experimental or data gathering during the two novel writers that created
it. Sorry that is the factual history of the so called personality test. It
has always been an indicator or nothing. So it has zero value. The testing
service only escaped lawsuits going back to when it was 1st used because
any criminal claims had expired.
There is a certified program to qualify people as consultants on the
MBTI.
https://www.mbtimasterpractitioner.org/mbti-certification-training-programs.ht
m
"MBTI® Certification Program
The MBTI® Certification Program delivers the foundational knowledge
you need for effectively administering and interpreting the most
respected personality assessment in the world, the Myers-Briggs Type
Indicator® (MBTI®) instrument.
The MBTI® instrument is a restricted assessment, meaning it can only
be purchased and used by those who meet certain requirements. Program
participants who successfully complete an MBTI® Certification Program
satisfy these requirements.
Certified MBTI professionals use this powerful tool to help others in
Personal growth and development
Career exploration and search
Executive coaching
Team building, and
Leadership development "
So, you think that a certified program offered by MBTI makes MBTI legit?????
Clayton College also,certified they were a real college, too. Even though
it held no classes and employed no instructors.
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
Alternatively, the general public aren't qualified to comment on
anything since they haven't got "expert" knowledge.
I don't know where you get that idea. However without a good knowledge base
to have a clue what is being discuss, the general public usually defers to
people that have earned a degree of expertise.
The public get over-ridden on certain topics, disregarding their
experience and putting it down to imagination or placebo.
Only qualified establishment-approved people, who have been trained in
mind-controlled schools of learning which follow approved theories are
allowed to have input on certain topics.
Post by Bob Officer
No one should pay attention to a janitor when it come time to discuss
particle physics with out some very good reason.
Maybe not - but the general public should be listened to when they
complain that things aren't working out according to the rules of
fairplay, or don't match up with all the corporate and government spin
on a topic such as vaccination or global warming.
It is only the crackpots that no one hears.
I wonder if she is still a big trump supporter?
Most all of his cabinet is either from Goldman Sachs or are ex congressmen
and senators. News is coming down the pike that total of 16 members are
going to be indicted with changes and another 11 are scrambling for
lawyers. Another one resigned today after he was caught taking free flights
on the government tab for over a million dollars in value. Trump's golfing
trips has exhausted the secret service budget for this and next year. And
the new tax bill will give Trump himself a billion dollar tax break. Most
all of family and cabinet members will get another 1.3 billion dollars of
tax breaks.
This so called tax reform will shift 3/4 of the tax burden on the lower 1/4
of all income. But the 95% of all income and wealth ends up to the 0.1% of
the population's pockets.
Trump has to select his cabinet from a pool of people pre-selected by
some government body.
That's news to me. Just where did you get that nonsense from, Carole? The
President is free to select anyone he wants, and those appointments are
with the approval of the US Senate. There is no pre-existing list of
people. Just what moronic web site did you find that bullshit?

That's why when GW bush appointed Brown as head of FEMA he was friend of
W's with no experience in emergency Management. When Hurricane Katrina Hit
the gulf coast, the federal,responce was non-existent for nearly 8 days.
Not as bad as Trump's poor responce to the disaster in Porto Rico and the
American Virgin Islands. It is not estimated over 5,000 are dead and
another 500 people are dying every day.

Now back to the big tax plan. The cuts to medical and education and housing
and disaster responce are all given upper 1/2 of the 1%. The burden of is
again shifted to those least able to afford the increases in tax. The
information shows even trump,and his cronies will get over 1billion dollars
in tax breaks.

By the way did you know 330 million of the debt of Porto Rico was caused by
a Trump own golf course bankruptcy?
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
Likewise they should not take health or medical advice from a person with
zero educational background in that field.
There is a difference between advice or research and discussion with
peers. If a person discusses with others, does some ressearch and
discovers that what mainstream esperts are pushing is hype and spin,
then it is fair enough to say the system is rigged and people are
being fed a load of steaming hot crap.
Post by Bob Officer
I have been reading a book about the origins and history of the IQ test. It
isn't pretty. There are some very ugly stories including the fact it was
use to sterilize about 60,000 people in the early 1900s.
I also have read such things, that a person may score high in one
culture and not so high in another. However, IQ will come through
eventually in any culture. IQ is the measure of how well a person
adapts to their environment and in turn how well they survive in any
situation. Those who adapt and innovate will always score higher than
those who don't.
Actually that's a myth. The IQ is arbitrary and there is not statistical
support for that claim.
But it makes sense.
Actually and statistically it makes zero sense. So I need to ask you in
just what way does it make sense? Does it test you ability to learn? NO! It
doesn't. Des it present non-cultural bias logic puzzles to test critical
thinking skills? No it does not.

So just what do you think an IQ actually does?
here is a big hint Carole: and IQ test is no indication of how well a
person does any assigned task.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
No IQ test ever written is totally free of cultural bias. Cultural
knowledge is not Intelligence. While I have always scored in the upper
percentile, I never thought much about it.
Sure bob, but your learning is book learning - you learn off rote.
But I would bet that he learns more from just living and surviving day to
day.
Most all my learning was a mix of classrooms and labs or field work.
Learning about trigonometry and then working on a student survey crew.
Classroom work in chemistry and then lab work which reaffirmed the class
work. Dozens of student doing qualitative and quantitive analysis on an
blinded substance, unknown to both the instructor and students. Electronics
was taught the same way, classroom followed by hands on lab work where
principles were tested and put into practice.
Even my English classes were book push writing labs, public speaking worked
the same way. Almost every course work consisted of Class + Hands on
practical work.
That's wonderful and I so admire people who can work through problems
and come up with innovative solutions.
Which just indicated your claim about learning by rote is nonsense, Carole.


You do know I finished secondary school 2 years ahead of my peers, don't
you Carole?
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
See Carole you go on and on about things you feel are significant, but they
aren't. When it comes to anyone giving your Usenet articles any weight is
the discussion, you are generally dismissed as a total dunce.
The topic of health and vaccination is important.
Putting fluoride into people's drinking water to make them docile for
example, or mercury and other additives into vaccines to dull people
down, is an important topic.
If you don't think this matters, prove it.
The government doesn't care because it has made zero effort to account
for autism.
It matters only to you. When you prove any of your claims, we might start to
think about it.
Really? I know of dozens of groups doing lots of research on causes of
autism. Current the cause for about 45 of all autism is shown to be de nova
mutations.
Its either genetic or environmental.
Hey Carole it could even be a combo of both? Right now the latest news it
is about 45% de novo mutation as causation. There is ZERO indication it is
environmental caused.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Since its occurring in a sharp increase in numbers over a short
period, this rules out genetic which takes a longer time to evolve.
It has explained to you a large number of times, the increasing numbers was
to the changes on diagnostic criteria. The latest change in diagnostic
criteria with the removal of those people with Asperger's syndrome, dropped
the number of people with ASD by about 1/3.

Since you know so little about genetics, de novo mutation can and do take
place in a single generation. I do not know,where you get your information,
but it is wrong. The body of evidence shows it is wrong.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
We know that autism is not caused by vaccines, or gluten. We know it tends
to happen when one of parents are older than 30 and it is mothers didn't
have 1st child until after they are 25. We also know about 1/3 of current
so called autism cases are actually fetal alcohol syndrome or from mothers
that were recreational drug users. We also know that in 20% of all cases
tobacco use in by one or more parent. In the last 45 years 95% of all
autistic child are born to parents which used ball point pens, 85% of
those parents flew in planes. 100% traveled in vehicles which went fast
than60 mph.
We don't know these things at all.
Yes we do, Carole. That's the data which has been gathered over the last 25
years.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
These are the excuses used to throw people off the track, red
herrings.
There are many cases where kids have turned autistic within a short
period of vaccination.
No there isn't any coupling to vaccines. ZERO. Autism occurs even when
there is not vaccines at the same rate as vaccinated population.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
When Carole says no research is being done she is just echoing what someone
else told her without checking that source.
bullshit.
There is no research being done except by pharmaceutical interests to
excuse their products and blame the victims, eg "vaccines don't cause
autism".
There are currently over 41 different groups independently studying autism
it causes and how best to mitigate it.

Curing a genetic trait would be like,changing all people's eye color blue.
Or the dominate handedness to everyone being right handed. There is a big
ethics question.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Lu
2017-08-31 16:54:25 UTC
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Post by Blind Freddie
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:18:38 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
That bias of all ready having an blame or cause indicates she is not open
minded and can not subjectively or objectively make any valid conclusion.
The fact she doesn't have any real economic background or even a slight
clue about the economy or what drives the economy makes any opinion she
hams totally worthless.
Bob exposes himself as an establishment whore.
Only those with "expert" knowledge are qualified to comment ie only
those educated in the corrupt system.
Alternatively, the general public aren't qualified to comment on
anything since they haven't got "expert" knowledge.
Just another delusional opinion by that illiterate from Australia.
Bob Officer
2017-09-01 00:04:51 UTC
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Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:18:38 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
That bias of all ready having an blame or cause indicates she is not open
minded and can not subjectively or objectively make any valid conclusion.
The fact she doesn't have any real economic background or even a slight
clue about the economy or what drives the economy makes any opinion she
hams totally worthless.
Bob exposes himself as an establishment whore.
Only those with "expert" knowledge are qualified to comment ie only
those educated in the corrupt system.
Alternatively, the general public aren't qualified to comment on
anything since they haven't got "expert" knowledge.
Just another delusional opinion by that illiterate from Australia.
She again put words into my mouth, creating a lie. I have never said one
needs to be an expert.

This morning on a twitter feed I got a blurb from Mike Adams, the so called
and self appointed "health ranger".

He reference an article of his own, saying adderall was the same thing as
crystal meth.

A quick look up in google shows The four ingredients in Adderall XR are
Dextroamphetamine saccharate, Amphetamine Aspartate, Dextroamphetamine
Sulfate, and Amphetamine Sulfate

Soma quick lookup refreshes 40 year old chemistry and gets the formulas for
the four and the formula for crystal meth.
Dextroamphetamine saccharate is C15H23HO8
Amphetamine Aspartate is C9H13-C4H7NO4-H2O
Dextroamphetamine Sulfate C9H13N-H2O4S
Amphetamine Sulfate is C9H15NO4S

Crystal Meth is C10H15N

So the only expertise needed is enough basic background knowledge to know
where and what the information you need should look like.

In this case Adams got a pants on fire rating.

The question is why Adams is so bent on giving out false information? That
is a completely different story. Would or should you take medical advice
from an internet market which can get his basic information correct?
The same question in a different direction
Would you take medical advice from a janitor?

'Nuff said.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Lu
2017-09-10 02:06:02 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Blind Freddie
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:18:38 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Mindless Dribble
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:00:58 -0700, Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
That insult does not seem up to par, Carole. Once again, Myers-Briggs
and
all it nonsense have ZERO meaning.
Post by Mindless Dribble
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Actually I known as being not a yes man. I make calls based on evidence
and
data, and I question the data, evidence and conclusions.
I also work on evidence and data.
And I say you are an establishment pawn.
What you really base your opinions on is establishment-approval which
goes by the name of "qualified" or "expert".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Mindless Dribble
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
My son got to play at hacking a few voting machines recently at a
SecCon.
All the voting machines there, every single one of them were hacked and
most of them in less time than it takes to vote.
I Question everything all the time, that's how I survived at work.
Shame you only apply your critical thinking skills to what you get
paid for -- or is that why you find so much that is questionable ok?
Personally, I question everything. The whole system is rigged and
rotten, otherwise why would you have so many people without jobs,
without a home, increasing polarity between the haves and have-nots
etc?
Since you have already decided that the whole system is rigged and rotten
what is it that you question?
That bias of all ready having an blame or cause indicates she is not open
minded and can not subjectively or objectively make any valid conclusion.
The fact she doesn't have any real economic background or even a slight
clue about the economy or what drives the economy makes any opinion she
hams totally worthless.
Bob exposes himself as an establishment whore.
Only those with "expert" knowledge are qualified to comment ie only
those educated in the corrupt system.
Alternatively, the general public aren't qualified to comment on
anything since they haven't got "expert" knowledge.
Just another delusional opinion by that illiterate from Australia.
She again put words into my mouth, creating a lie. I have never said one
needs to be an expert.
This morning on a twitter feed I got a blurb from Mike Adams, the so called
and self appointed "health ranger".
He reference an article of his own, saying adderall was the same thing as
crystal meth.
A quick look up in google shows The four ingredients in Adderall XR are
Dextroamphetamine saccharate, Amphetamine Aspartate, Dextroamphetamine
Sulfate, and Amphetamine Sulfate
Soma quick lookup refreshes 40 year old chemistry and gets the formulas for
the four and the formula for crystal meth.
Dextroamphetamine saccharate is C15H23HO8
Amphetamine Aspartate is C9H13-C4H7NO4-H2O
Dextroamphetamine Sulfate C9H13N-H2O4S
Amphetamine Sulfate is C9H15NO4S
Crystal Meth is C10H15N
So the only expertise needed is enough basic background knowledge to know
where and what the information you need should look like.
In this case Adams got a pants on fire rating.
The question is why Adams is so bent on giving out false information? That
is a completely different story. Would or should you take medical advice
from an internet market which can get his basic information correct?
The same question in a different direction
Would you take medical advice from a janitor?
Taking medical advice from a janitor or Mike Adams is on par with me
diagnosing and treating my own medical needs.

Not that I would but I am thinking that I might get better medical
advice from the janitor because he ain’t out to make a buck off me.
Post by Bob Officer
'Nuff said.
kaye
2017-08-09 01:38:28 UTC
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Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
--
Mindless Dribble
Just mindlessly spouting more and more meaningless dribble.
Dispelling vaccination myths
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/esp_salud33l.htm
Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
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http://www.avg.com
You must have been drunk when you posted this. You sound as incoherent as
Tweety McSmallhands when he's tweeting on the toilet at 4 a.m.

Kaye
Bob Officer
2017-08-15 23:58:02 UTC
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Post by kaye
Post by Mindless Dribble
Its all bob's fault - yes it is!
Bob is an ESTJ and an establishment pawn.
Admit it bob - you're a yesman!
Never one to question the status quo, but ever ready to go along with
whatever "the experts" have to say. Never mine that the "experts" are
promoted to their positions because they are "brown nosers".
The shit will hit the fan hopefully sooner than later.
Bob will be exposed for what he is - a yesman.
--
Mindless Dribble
Just mindlessly spouting more and more meaningless dribble.
Dispelling vaccination myths
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/esp_salud33l.htm
Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
You must have been drunk when you posted this. You sound as incoherent as
Tweety McSmallhands when he's tweeting on the toilet at 4 a.m.
Carole is allergic to being coherent.

Her mind wandered away years ago and she never realized that it was
missing. I recall back when I was teaching the newly hired people at work.
A few of them had the attitude that they knew everything there was to know.
Sadly those which held that attitude seldom survived the 1st week of
training.


A simple check of those graphs which the recorded statistics show that the
person that created them confounded the words mortality with morbidity. The
deaths and infections n rate. The infection rates remain constant up until
the introduction of vaccines. The them the charts didn't show was with a
drop in mortality rates, the was a dramatic increase in Blind-Deaf
syndrome. While more children were surviving measles due antibiotics and
hospitals equipped to treat the aftereffects of the disease. There were
more and more children which ended up either blind, deaf or both because
the measles destroyed optic nerves, retinas and the cilia inside the ear,
and damaged the auditory nerves.

My home town had four such people in my age group. The were send to a
special boarding school which was about 180 miles away. An all day round
trip in the 1950's. Back then nearly every major population center had at
least one of these school. Where California used to have 7, now there are
just a 3 left because of the lack of people suffering from Blind-Deaf
syndrome.

No, Carole all to often blindly believes the misrepresent and sometimes
outright lies she finds on web pages. Because those pages agree with her
preconceived notions, she lazily agrees and blindly takes them as factual,
not doing any research or fact checking.

This sort of laziness has lead to return of these bigoted and blind
neo-Nazi-KKK thugs we've seen on the news. Carole herself has spouted this
garbage on this news group. Lazy minded people are easily lead and even
easier to control.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
2017-08-09 03:19:40 UTC
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