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another Dunning-Kruger effect example
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Bob Officer
2017-05-14 18:15:37 UTC
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Stephen Frey hits the nail on the head.




The last scene is some of the most important information you might hear
this year. It deals with the way most all brains are wired.

Pay close examples to the scenes used to demo the points. Overly repeated
phrases, often convince the masses. In one place Trump who is the example
repeats the same phrase three times, for no other reason the to use the big
lie on those easiest to mislead.
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Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity

Duncan
2017-05-23 02:33:21 UTC
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On Sun, 14 May 2017 18:15:37 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Stephen Frey hits the nail on the head.
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
The last scene is some of the most important information you might hear
this year. It deals with the way most all brains are wired.
Pay close examples to the scenes used to demo the points. Overly repeated
phrases, often convince the masses. In one place Trump who is the example
repeats the same phrase three times, for no other reason the to use the big
lie on those easiest to mislead.
The Dunning-Kruger effect has been debunked.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-notable-flaws-in-Dunning-Kruger-as-a-theory?share=1

There is no real evidence to show that smarter people are modest and
stupid people are confident.

No, I didn't watch the video.
Should I really?
Do I have to?



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The Newest Other Guy
2017-05-23 03:21:30 UTC
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Post by Duncan
The Dunning-Kruger effect has been debunked.
ONLY by those too STUPID to realize they're stupid.

LIKE someone here, pretending to be MANY,
but who IS just one, and TOTALLY stupid.
Lu
2017-05-23 14:27:25 UTC
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Post by Duncan
On Sun, 14 May 2017 18:15:37 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Stephen Frey hits the nail on the head.
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
The last scene is some of the most important information you might hear
this year. It deals with the way most all brains are wired.
Pay close examples to the scenes used to demo the points. Overly repeated
phrases, often convince the masses. In one place Trump who is the example
repeats the same phrase three times, for no other reason the to use the big
lie on those easiest to mislead.
The Dunning-Kruger effect has been debunked.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-notable-flaws-in-Dunning-Kruger-as-a-theory
?share=1
There is no real evidence to show that smarter people are modest and
stupid people are confident.
Sure there is. Look at yourself, you are a perfect example.
Post by Duncan
No, I didn't watch the video.
Should I really?
Do I have to?
Bob Officer
2017-05-23 18:10:41 UTC
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Post by Duncan
On Sun, 14 May 2017 18:15:37 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Stephen Frey hits the nail on the head.
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
The last scene is some of the most important information you might hear
this year. It deals with the way most all brains are wired.
Pay close examples to the scenes used to demo the points. Overly repeated
phrases, often convince the masses. In one place Trump who is the example
repeats the same phrase three times, for no other reason the to use the big
lie on those easiest to mislead.
The Dunning-Kruger effect has been debunked.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-notable-flaws-in-Dunning-Kruger-as-a-theory?share=1
Actually no it hasn't.

There in the comment, David Dunning hands the blog author his ass:
<cite>
Hi,

Can’t help to point out Ehrlinger et al. (OBHDP, 2008), which addresses
many of the issues raised by Kruger & Mueller, and Burson et al. It can be
found by going to the Wikipedia site for the Dunning-Kruger Effect and
looking at reference #2. In essence, Ehrlinger et al found:

1. That statistical regression to the mean accounted for only a smidgen of
the DK effect. (The author of the current blog also does not address Kruger
and Dunning, Study 3, which implicated metacognitive performance in the
effect–and presented findings not predicted via a regression to the mean
account.)

2. The effect arises in real world settings–such as exams, debate
tournaments, and gun owners preparing for hunting season. That is, Burson
et al. could modify the effect by introducing extreme conditions, but if we
look at the types of tasks people face in their daily lives, the usual
self-misestimates appear, with poor performers very much missing the mark.

3. The DK effect obtains even if respondents are promised up to $100 for
accurate assessments.

The blog author is correct in describing what the original effect is–poor
performers are overly confident relative to their actual performance. They
are not more confident than high performers.
</cite>
Post by Duncan
There is no real evidence to show that smarter people are modest and
stupid people are confident.
No, I didn't watch the video.
Should I really?
Do I have to?
No, you don't but you hit end up making less of fool, of yourself if you
did.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
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