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Do Breatharians Survive Without Food or Water? [Fact Check]
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2017-06-19 06:07:02 UTC
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Do Breatharians Survive Without Food or Water?

Claims about "breatharians" resurfaced in June 2017, but once again people purportedly living on light alone did not offer proof that they survive this way.


CLAIM
A Californian and Ecuadorian couple proved it is possible to live on nothing but air.

RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In mid-June 2017, tabloids and similar sources published articles about a couple that purports to survive by eating little to no food. Akahi Ricardo and Camila Castello, the articles said, call themselves “breatharians,” and say they survive on “the universe’s energy,” along with pieces of fruit and vegetable broth eaten 2-3 times per week.

This is not the first time that people have made this claim. A Wikipedia page for the practice perhaps best sums it up in noting that “[t]hough it is common knowledge that biological entities require sustenance to survive, breatharianism continues.” Notably, The Sun and many regurgitators of the piece repeated claims purportedly made by Ricardo and Castello without checking them against very basic science understood across humanity:

Camila and Akahi – who have a five-year-old son and two-year-old daughter together – have survived on little else besides a piece of fruit or vegetable broth just 3 times per week since 2008.

And Camila even practised a Breatharian PREGNANCY – not eating anything during the entire nine months that she carried her first child.

The married couple-of-nine-years claim that their “food-free lifestyle” has improved their health and emotional well-being as well as meaning they can spend money on travelling rather than the weekly shop … Camila explained: “I was completely open to changing my food-free lifestyle when I first became pregnant because my child came first. But I just never felt hungry so I ended up practicing a fully Breatharian pregnancy.

“I didn’t feel the need or desire to eat solid food during the entire nine months and so I only ate 5 times, all of which were in social situations.
Throughout the profile (which was republished across the web with no additional fact checking), the couple alternately claimed to eat occasionally and to describe themselves as “food free.” Whether the couple claimed to eat very little or nothing at all, no apparent verification of their claims was made before pushing the dangerous suggestion one could live without food or water out to large audiences.

Predictably, the practice has indeed proved fatal. Victims in Scotland, Australia, and Switzerland were among individuals who died in an attempt to survive without food or water. A 1999 Guardian article about the deaths quoted an expert on survival medicine:

Experts differ as to the absolute maximum length of time that human life can continue without water, but the broad consensus rests at somewhere between seven and 10 days – though severe dehydration and confusion (due to the build-up of sodium and potassium in the brain) would set in sooner. In the desert, of course, lack of water can kill in a matter of hours.

“It depends on the climate, and how much exercise you’re taking, but if you’re lying in bed you would probably be just about all right for a week,” says Dr Charles Clarke, who specialises in high-altitude survival medicine and has accompanied the climber Chris Bonington on expeditions to Mount Everest. “But towards the end of the first week, you’d become pretty gravely ill. Your blood would become thicker, your kidneys can’t cope; multiple organ failure follows, you get hypothermic and eventually you die.”
Moreover, the couple profiled by The Sun weren’t the first “breatharians” to admit to or be caught eating food while claiming not to eat or drink. Jasmuheen, an ex-business woman and founder of the movement has never proved she doesn’t eat, demonstrates signs of eating, and nutritional experts believe the claim may be a delusion shared among individuals who underestimate their “occasional” eating:

Jasmuheen freely admits to drinking orange juice regularly and occasionally nibbling chocolate biscuits for a “taste sensation”. In the past she has described her diet as including tea with honey and soya milk, chocolate, crisps, soup and the odd piece of fruit. Thoeretically, a diet consisting of those foods in small amounts could represent a calorific intake to which the body could adjust without significant weight loss.

Reporters visiting Jasmuheen’s Brisbane home have been bewildered to find her fridge well-stocked with vegetarian food which, she says, belongs to her partner Jeff Ferguson, a convicted fraudster. And a British journalist accompanying Jasmuheen to her check-in desk at Heathrow last December was astonished when the BA clerk asked her to confirm that she’d ordered an in-flight vegetarian meal. “No, no,” she replied. “Well, yes, OK, I did. But I won’t be eating it.”




Although claims of “breatharians” surviving and thriving pop up every few years, we were unable to find any evidence contradicting the body of science demonstrating humans require water and food to stay alive. It’s possible the couple profiled by The Sun in June 2017 both genuinely made and believed their own claims, but we found no proof the impossible assertion was actually true. When tested, purported breatharians such as Jasmuheen failed to last more than a few days without food and water.



Feedback
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Filed Under:BreatharianBreatharianismDangerous Woo+1 More
Fact Checker:Kim LaCapria
Featured Image:Shutterstock
Published:Jun 16th, 2017


http://www.snopes.com/breatharians/
kaye
2017-06-19 09:07:22 UTC
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Post by ⊙_⊙
Fact Check Medical
Do Breatharians Survive Without Food or Water?
Claims about "breatharians" resurfaced in June 2017, but once again
people purportedly living on light alone did not offer proof that they survive this way.
CLAIM
A Californian and Ecuadorian couple proved it is possible to live on nothing but air.
RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In mid-June 2017, tabloids and similar sources published articles about a
couple that purports to survive by eating little to no food. Akahi
Ricardo and Camila Castello, the articles said, call themselves
“breatharians,” and say they survive on “the universe’s energy,” along
with pieces of fruit and vegetable broth eaten 2-3 times per week.
This is not the first time that people have made this claim. A Wikipedia
page for the practice perhaps best sums it up in noting that “[t]hough it
is common knowledge that biological entities require sustenance to
survive, breatharianism continues.” Notably, The Sun and many
regurgitators of the piece repeated claims purportedly made by Ricardo
Camila and Akahi – who have a five-year-old son and two-year-old daughter
together – have survived on little else besides a piece of fruit or
vegetable broth just 3 times per week since 2008.
And Camila even practised a Breatharian PREGNANCY – not eating anything
during the entire nine months that she carried her first child.
The married couple-of-nine-years claim that their “food-free lifestyle”
has improved their health and emotional well-being as well as meaning
they can spend money on travelling rather than the weekly shop … Camila
explained: “I was completely open to changing my food-free lifestyle when
I first became pregnant because my child came first. But I just never
felt hungry so I ended up practicing a fully Breatharian pregnancy.
“I didn’t feel the need or desire to eat solid food during the entire
nine months and so I only ate 5 times, all of which were in social situations.
Throughout the profile (which was republished across the web with no
additional fact checking), the couple alternately claimed to eat
occasionally and to describe themselves as “food free.” Whether the
couple claimed to eat very little or nothing at all, no apparent
verification of their claims was made before pushing the dangerous
suggestion one could live without food or water out to large audiences.
Predictably, the practice has indeed proved fatal. Victims in Scotland,
Australia, and Switzerland were among individuals who died in an attempt
to survive without food or water. A 1999 Guardian article about the
Experts differ as to the absolute maximum length of time that human life
can continue without water, but the broad consensus rests at somewhere
between seven and 10 days – though severe dehydration and confusion (due
to the build-up of sodium and potassium in the brain) would set in
sooner. In the desert, of course, lack of water can kill in a matter of hours.
“It depends on the climate, and how much exercise you’re taking, but if
you’re lying in bed you would probably be just about all right for a
week,” says Dr Charles Clarke, who specialises in high-altitude survival
medicine and has accompanied the climber Chris Bonington on expeditions
to Mount Everest. “But towards the end of the first week, you’d become
pretty gravely ill. Your blood would become thicker, your kidneys can’t
cope; multiple organ failure follows, you get hypothermic and eventually you die.”
Moreover, the couple profiled by The Sun weren’t the first “breatharians”
to admit to or be caught eating food while claiming not to eat or drink.
Jasmuheen, an ex-business woman and founder of the movement has never
proved she doesn’t eat, demonstrates signs of eating, and nutritional
experts believe the claim may be a delusion shared among individuals who
Jasmuheen freely admits to drinking orange juice regularly and
occasionally nibbling chocolate biscuits for a “taste sensation”. In the
past she has described her diet as including tea with honey and soya
milk, chocolate, crisps, soup and the odd piece of fruit. Thoeretically,
a diet consisting of those foods in small amounts could represent a
calorific intake to which the body could adjust without significant weight loss.
Reporters visiting Jasmuheen’s Brisbane home have been bewildered to find
her fridge well-stocked with vegetarian food which, she says, belongs to
her partner Jeff Ferguson, a convicted fraudster. And a British
journalist accompanying Jasmuheen to her check-in desk at Heathrow last
December was astonished when the BA clerk asked her to confirm that she’d
ordered an in-flight vegetarian meal. “No, no,” she replied. “Well, yes,
OK, I did. But I won’t be eating it.”
Although claims of “breatharians” surviving and thriving pop up every few
years, we were unable to find any evidence contradicting the body of
science demonstrating humans require water and food to stay alive. It’s
possible the couple profiled by The Sun in June 2017 both genuinely made
and believed their own claims, but we found no proof the impossible
assertion was actually true. When tested, purported breatharians such as
Jasmuheen failed to last more than a few days without food and water.
Feedback
Sources
Filed Under:BreatharianBreatharianismDangerous Woo+1 More
Fact Checker:Kim LaCapria
Featured Image:Shutterstock
Published:Jun 16th, 2017
http://www.snopes.com/breatharians/
Ummm, this is the same article I linked to earlier Sunday. In fact these
people do eat. They are disingenuous of them to pretend they don't. If
their claims were true, then people would not die of starvation.
Bob Officer
2017-06-19 21:16:50 UTC
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Post by kaye
Post by ⊙_⊙
Fact Check Medical
Do Breatharians Survive Without Food or Water?
Claims about "breatharians" resurfaced in June 2017, but once again
people purportedly living on light alone did not offer proof that they survive this way.
CLAIM
A Californian and Ecuadorian couple proved it is possible to live on nothing but air.
RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In mid-June 2017, tabloids and similar sources published articles about a
couple that purports to survive by eating little to no food. Akahi
Ricardo and Camila Castello, the articles said, call themselves
“breatharians,” and say they survive on “the universe’s energy,” along
with pieces of fruit and vegetable broth eaten 2-3 times per week.
This is not the first time that people have made this claim. A Wikipedia
page for the practice perhaps best sums it up in noting that “[t]hough it
is common knowledge that biological entities require sustenance to
survive, breatharianism continues.” Notably, The Sun and many
regurgitators of the piece repeated claims purportedly made by Ricardo
Camila and Akahi – who have a five-year-old son and two-year-old daughter
together – have survived on little else besides a piece of fruit or
vegetable broth just 3 times per week since 2008.
And Camila even practised a Breatharian PREGNANCY – not eating anything
during the entire nine months that she carried her first child.
The married couple-of-nine-years claim that their “food-free lifestyle”
has improved their health and emotional well-being as well as meaning
they can spend money on travelling rather than the weekly shop … Camila
explained: “I was completely open to changing my food-free lifestyle when
I first became pregnant because my child came first. But I just never
felt hungry so I ended up practicing a fully Breatharian pregnancy.
“I didn’t feel the need or desire to eat solid food during the entire
nine months and so I only ate 5 times, all of which were in social situations.
Throughout the profile (which was republished across the web with no
additional fact checking), the couple alternately claimed to eat
occasionally and to describe themselves as “food free.” Whether the
couple claimed to eat very little or nothing at all, no apparent
verification of their claims was made before pushing the dangerous
suggestion one could live without food or water out to large audiences.
Predictably, the practice has indeed proved fatal. Victims in Scotland,
Australia, and Switzerland were among individuals who died in an attempt
to survive without food or water. A 1999 Guardian article about the
Experts differ as to the absolute maximum length of time that human life
can continue without water, but the broad consensus rests at somewhere
between seven and 10 days – though severe dehydration and confusion (due
to the build-up of sodium and potassium in the brain) would set in
sooner. In the desert, of course, lack of water can kill in a matter of hours.
“It depends on the climate, and how much exercise you’re taking, but if
you’re lying in bed you would probably be just about all right for a
week,” says Dr Charles Clarke, who specialises in high-altitude survival
medicine and has accompanied the climber Chris Bonington on expeditions
to Mount Everest. “But towards the end of the first week, you’d become
pretty gravely ill. Your blood would become thicker, your kidneys can’t
cope; multiple organ failure follows, you get hypothermic and eventually you die.”
Moreover, the couple profiled by The Sun weren’t the first “breatharians”
to admit to or be caught eating food while claiming not to eat or drink.
Jasmuheen, an ex-business woman and founder of the movement has never
proved she doesn’t eat, demonstrates signs of eating, and nutritional
experts believe the claim may be a delusion shared among individuals who
Jasmuheen freely admits to drinking orange juice regularly and
occasionally nibbling chocolate biscuits for a “taste sensation”. In the
past she has described her diet as including tea with honey and soya
milk, chocolate, crisps, soup and the odd piece of fruit. Thoeretically,
a diet consisting of those foods in small amounts could represent a
calorific intake to which the body could adjust without significant weight loss.
Reporters visiting Jasmuheen’s Brisbane home have been bewildered to find
her fridge well-stocked with vegetarian food which, she says, belongs to
her partner Jeff Ferguson, a convicted fraudster. And a British
journalist accompanying Jasmuheen to her check-in desk at Heathrow last
December was astonished when the BA clerk asked her to confirm that she’d
ordered an in-flight vegetarian meal. “No, no,” she replied. “Well, yes,
OK, I did. But I won’t be eating it.”
Although claims of “breatharians” surviving and thriving pop up every few
years, we were unable to find any evidence contradicting the body of
science demonstrating humans require water and food to stay alive. It’s
possible the couple profiled by The Sun in June 2017 both genuinely made
and believed their own claims, but we found no proof the impossible
assertion was actually true. When tested, purported breatharians such as
Jasmuheen failed to last more than a few days without food and water.
Feedback
Sources
Filed Under:BreatharianBreatharianismDangerous Woo+1 More
Fact Checker:Kim LaCapria
Featured Image:Shutterstock
Published:Jun 16th, 2017
http://www.snopes.com/breatharians/
Ummm, this is the same article I linked to earlier Sunday. In fact these
people do eat. They are disingenuous of them to pretend they don't. If
their claims were true, then people would not die of starvation.
Popular press brings this ever so often. The claim are false and as the ad
hoc fallacy. The claims are made with no evidence and as simply on the
basis of "it truth because I say-so".

Most all of Carole's claims are simply a person making a claim not based on
data or evidence, but upon personal say-so.

Even most of citations are the same sort of fallacy based claims.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity

Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:

Blind Freddie
2017-06-27 05:52:04 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by kaye
Post by ⊙_⊙
Fact Check Medical
Do Breatharians Survive Without Food or Water?
Claims about "breatharians" resurfaced in June 2017, but once again
people purportedly living on light alone did not offer proof that they survive this way.
CLAIM
A Californian and Ecuadorian couple proved it is possible to live on nothing but air.
RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In mid-June 2017, tabloids and similar sources published articles about a
couple that purports to survive by eating little to no food. Akahi
Ricardo and Camila Castello, the articles said, call themselves
“breatharians,” and say they survive on “the universe’s energy,” along
with pieces of fruit and vegetable broth eaten 2-3 times per week.
This is not the first time that people have made this claim. A Wikipedia
page for the practice perhaps best sums it up in noting that “[t]hough it
is common knowledge that biological entities require sustenance to
survive, breatharianism continues.” Notably, The Sun and many
regurgitators of the piece repeated claims purportedly made by Ricardo
Camila and Akahi – who have a five-year-old son and two-year-old daughter
together – have survived on little else besides a piece of fruit or
vegetable broth just 3 times per week since 2008.
And Camila even practised a Breatharian PREGNANCY – not eating anything
during the entire nine months that she carried her first child.
The married couple-of-nine-years claim that their “food-free lifestyle”
has improved their health and emotional well-being as well as meaning
they can spend money on travelling rather than the weekly shop … Camila
explained: “I was completely open to changing my food-free lifestyle when
I first became pregnant because my child came first. But I just never
felt hungry so I ended up practicing a fully Breatharian pregnancy.
“I didn’t feel the need or desire to eat solid food during the entire
nine months and so I only ate 5 times, all of which were in social situations.
Throughout the profile (which was republished across the web with no
additional fact checking), the couple alternately claimed to eat
occasionally and to describe themselves as “food free.” Whether the
couple claimed to eat very little or nothing at all, no apparent
verification of their claims was made before pushing the dangerous
suggestion one could live without food or water out to large audiences.
Predictably, the practice has indeed proved fatal. Victims in Scotland,
Australia, and Switzerland were among individuals who died in an attempt
to survive without food or water. A 1999 Guardian article about the
Experts differ as to the absolute maximum length of time that human life
can continue without water, but the broad consensus rests at somewhere
between seven and 10 days – though severe dehydration and confusion (due
to the build-up of sodium and potassium in the brain) would set in
sooner. In the desert, of course, lack of water can kill in a matter of hours.
“It depends on the climate, and how much exercise you’re taking, but if
you’re lying in bed you would probably be just about all right for a
week,” says Dr Charles Clarke, who specialises in high-altitude survival
medicine and has accompanied the climber Chris Bonington on expeditions
to Mount Everest. “But towards the end of the first week, you’d become
pretty gravely ill. Your blood would become thicker, your kidneys can’t
cope; multiple organ failure follows, you get hypothermic and eventually you die.”
Moreover, the couple profiled by The Sun weren’t the first “breatharians”
to admit to or be caught eating food while claiming not to eat or drink.
Jasmuheen, an ex-business woman and founder of the movement has never
proved she doesn’t eat, demonstrates signs of eating, and nutritional
experts believe the claim may be a delusion shared among individuals who
Jasmuheen freely admits to drinking orange juice regularly and
occasionally nibbling chocolate biscuits for a “taste sensation”. In the
past she has described her diet as including tea with honey and soya
milk, chocolate, crisps, soup and the odd piece of fruit. Thoeretically,
a diet consisting of those foods in small amounts could represent a
calorific intake to which the body could adjust without significant weight loss.
Reporters visiting Jasmuheen’s Brisbane home have been bewildered to find
her fridge well-stocked with vegetarian food which, she says, belongs to
her partner Jeff Ferguson, a convicted fraudster. And a British
journalist accompanying Jasmuheen to her check-in desk at Heathrow last
December was astonished when the BA clerk asked her to confirm that she’d
ordered an in-flight vegetarian meal. “No, no,” she replied. “Well, yes,
OK, I did. But I won’t be eating it.”
Although claims of “breatharians” surviving and thriving pop up every few
years, we were unable to find any evidence contradicting the body of
science demonstrating humans require water and food to stay alive. It’s
possible the couple profiled by The Sun in June 2017 both genuinely made
and believed their own claims, but we found no proof the impossible
assertion was actually true. When tested, purported breatharians such as
Jasmuheen failed to last more than a few days without food and water.
Feedback
Sources
Filed Under:BreatharianBreatharianismDangerous Woo+1 More
Fact Checker:Kim LaCapria
Featured Image:Shutterstock
Published:Jun 16th, 2017
http://www.snopes.com/breatharians/
Ummm, this is the same article I linked to earlier Sunday. In fact these
people do eat. They are disingenuous of them to pretend they don't. If
their claims were true, then people would not die of starvation.
Popular press brings this ever so often. The claim are false and as the ad
hoc fallacy. The claims are made with no evidence and as simply on the
basis of "it truth because I say-so".
Most all of Carole's claims are simply a person making a claim not based on
data or evidence, but upon personal say-so.
Bob FYI this posts by ??? aren't any of carole's socks.
So you're too smart for your own good.
And since you are so smart you should know that things that are
considered impossible at one time, don't always remain so.

Living on prana is fantastic and needing more information to verify --
but its not impossible, just impossible according to modern science.

There is no such thing as solid matter, when you go down to the
tiniest atoms there are merely swirling balls of energy.

Matter and Energy: A False Dichotomy
https://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/particle-physics-basics/mass-energy-matter-etc/matter-and-energy-a-false-dichotomy/


Matter is made up of energy.
It is not impossible that a person somehow could draw on the energy of
the universe to sustain themselves somehow, to convert energy into
matter (food). Why not?

I can't do it, I don't personally know anybody who can do it. There
are many things I can't do such as electrical work, plumbing or
carpentry. That is not to say that others can't do these things.

You need to realise that our reality is totally engineered by those
who wish to keep humanity in submission and under control.
What we consider reality isn't really how the real world works.

Information is power and keeping information secret and conditioning
people to accept false ideas of the truth, is how they keep people in
submission and easy to control.
Post by Bob Officer
Even most of citations are the same sort of fallacy based claims.
--
Blind Freddie
"None so blind as those who will not see"

7 Massive Misconceptions Many Never Question
http://tinyurl.com/jg9jay3

A brief history of FDA raids against providers of natural health
products
https://thebovine.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/a-brief-history-of-fda-raids-against-providers-of-natural-health-products/

Tyranny in the USA: The true history of FDA raids on healers, vitamin
shops and supplement companies
http://www.naturalnews.com/021791.html

The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry
http://tinyurl.com/zgmi


DDT
"A former high official at the NSA (National Security Agency) told me
about a protocol informally dubbed DDT - that old poisonous chemical
long-banned in much of the world. In this application, it stands for
Decoy, Distract and Trash - which is what sophisticated intelligence
operatives use to set up some person or group, take them off the trail
of something real and important, and trash the person or the
subject." -- Stephen Greer.


Suppression of dissent in science
Brian Martin / Research in Social Problems and Public Policy, Volume 7
1999
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Suppression-Dissent-Science.htm


Pan Pharmaceuticals
The founder of Pan Pharmaceuticals, the company which had its licence
withdrawn by the Therapeutic Goods Administration in 2003, has
received a record $50 million payout from the Federal Government.
- Founder 'blameless'
- 400 jobs lost
- Public inquiry wanted
Jim Selim had sued the TGA for compensation for ruining his business,
claiming public servants had acted outside their power and with
vengeance when withdrawing the licence after concerns over certain
products and manufacturing processes.
TGA shareholders lost $350 million, almost 400 people lost their jobs,
and Pan's customers lost hundreds of millions of dollars in business,
Mr Selim's lawyer Andrew Thorpe said outside the court today.
http://tinyurl.com/p8nkyco


Cover Stories invented to engineer public opinions
"Many people have been so concerned about what has been happening to
our Government that they have dedicated themselves to investigating
and exposing its evils. Unfortunately, a number of these writers have
been dupes of those cleverer than they or with sinister reasons for
concealing knowledge. They have written what they thought was the
truth, only to find out (if they ever did find out) that they had been
fed a lot of contrived cover stories and just plain hogwash. In this
book I have taken extracts from some of this writing and, line by
line, have shown how it has been manipulated to give a semblance of
truth while at the same time being contrived and false. " -- The
Secret Team, Fletcher L. Prouty,
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/USO/appA.html 



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Bob Officer
2017-06-28 02:48:26 UTC
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On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:16:50 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by kaye
Post by ⊙_⊙
Fact Check Medical
Do Breatharians Survive Without Food or Water?
Claims about "breatharians" resurfaced in June 2017, but once again
people purportedly living on light alone did not offer proof that they survive this way.
CLAIM
A Californian and Ecuadorian couple proved it is possible to live on nothing but air.
RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In mid-June 2017, tabloids and similar sources published articles about a
couple that purports to survive by eating little to no food. Akahi
Ricardo and Camila Castello, the articles said, call themselves
“breatharians,” and say they survive on “the universe’s energy,” along
with pieces of fruit and vegetable broth eaten 2-3 times per week.
This is not the first time that people have made this claim. A Wikipedia
page for the practice perhaps best sums it up in noting that “[t]hough it
is common knowledge that biological entities require sustenance to
survive, breatharianism continues.” Notably, The Sun and many
regurgitators of the piece repeated claims purportedly made by Ricardo
and Castello without checking them against very basic science
Camila and Akahi – who have a five-year-old son and two-year-old daughter
together – have survived on little else besides a piece of fruit or
vegetable broth just 3 times per week since 2008.
And Camila even practised a Breatharian PREGNANCY – not eating anything
during the entire nine months that she carried her first child.
The married couple-of-nine-years claim that their “food-free lifestyle”
has improved their health and emotional well-being as well as meaning
they can spend money on travelling rather than the weekly shop … Camila
explained: “I was completely open to changing my food-free lifestyle when
I first became pregnant because my child came first. But I just never
felt hungry so I ended up practicing a fully Breatharian pregnancy.
“I didn’t feel the need or desire to eat solid food during the entire
nine months and so I only ate 5 times, all of which were in social situations.
Throughout the profile (which was republished across the web with no
additional fact checking), the couple alternately claimed to eat
occasionally and to describe themselves as “food free.” Whether the
couple claimed to eat very little or nothing at all, no apparent
verification of their claims was made before pushing the dangerous
suggestion one could live without food or water out to large audiences.
Predictably, the practice has indeed proved fatal. Victims in Scotland,
Australia, and Switzerland were among individuals who died in an attempt
to survive without food or water. A 1999 Guardian article about the
Experts differ as to the absolute maximum length of time that human life
can continue without water, but the broad consensus rests at somewhere
between seven and 10 days – though severe dehydration and confusion (due
to the build-up of sodium and potassium in the brain) would set in
sooner. In the desert, of course, lack of water can kill in a matter of hours.
“It depends on the climate, and how much exercise you’re taking, but if
you’re lying in bed you would probably be just about all right for a
week,” says Dr Charles Clarke, who specialises in high-altitude survival
medicine and has accompanied the climber Chris Bonington on expeditions
to Mount Everest. “But towards the end of the first week, you’d become
pretty gravely ill. Your blood would become thicker, your kidneys can’t
cope; multiple organ failure follows, you get hypothermic and eventually you die.”
Moreover, the couple profiled by The Sun weren’t the first “breatharians”
to admit to or be caught eating food while claiming not to eat or drink.
Jasmuheen, an ex-business woman and founder of the movement has never
proved she doesn’t eat, demonstrates signs of eating, and nutritional
experts believe the claim may be a delusion shared among individuals who
Jasmuheen freely admits to drinking orange juice regularly and
occasionally nibbling chocolate biscuits for a “taste sensation”. In the
past she has described her diet as including tea with honey and soya
milk, chocolate, crisps, soup and the odd piece of fruit. Thoeretically,
a diet consisting of those foods in small amounts could represent a
calorific intake to which the body could adjust without significant weight loss.
Reporters visiting Jasmuheen’s Brisbane home have been bewildered to find
her fridge well-stocked with vegetarian food which, she says, belongs to
her partner Jeff Ferguson, a convicted fraudster. And a British
journalist accompanying Jasmuheen to her check-in desk at Heathrow last
December was astonished when the BA clerk asked her to confirm that she’d
ordered an in-flight vegetarian meal. “No, no,” she replied. “Well, yes,
OK, I did. But I won’t be eating it.”
Although claims of “breatharians” surviving and thriving pop up every few
years, we were unable to find any evidence contradicting the body of
science demonstrating humans require water and food to stay alive. It’s
possible the couple profiled by The Sun in June 2017 both genuinely made
and believed their own claims, but we found no proof the impossible
assertion was actually true. When tested, purported breatharians such as
Jasmuheen failed to last more than a few days without food and water.
Feedback
Sources
Filed Under:BreatharianBreatharianismDangerous Woo+1 More
Fact Checker:Kim LaCapria
Featured Image:Shutterstock
Published:Jun 16th, 2017
http://www.snopes.com/breatharians/
Ummm, this is the same article I linked to earlier Sunday. In fact these
people do eat. They are disingenuous of them to pretend they don't. If
their claims were true, then people would not die of starvation.
Popular press brings this up ever so often. The claims are false and as the ad
hoc fallacy. The claims are made with no evidence and as simply on the
basis of "it truth because I say-so".
Most all of Carole's claims are simply a person making a claim not based on
data or evidence, but upon personal say-so.
This claim resembles most of your nonsense.
Post by Blind Freddie
Bob FYI this posts by ??? aren't any of carole's socks.
So you're too smart for your own good.
And since you are so smart you should know that things that are
considered impossible at one time, don't always remain so.
Living on prana is fantastic and needing more information to verify --
but its not impossible, just impossible according to modern science.
These people have been caught lying over and over again.
Post by Blind Freddie
There is no such thing as solid matter, when you go down to the
tiniest atoms there are merely swirling balls of energy.
Matter and Energy: A False Dichotomy
https://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/particle-physics-basics/mass-energy-matter-etc/matter-and-energy-a-false-dichotomy/
Matter is made up of energy.
It is not impossible that a person somehow could draw on the energy of
the universe to sustain themselves somehow, to convert energy into
matter (food). Why not?
Unless they have a nuclear reactor in their lungs, matter will remain
matter.
Post by Blind Freddie
I can't do it, I don't personally know anybody who can do it. There
are many things I can't do such as electrical work, plumbing or
carpentry. That is not to say that others can't do these things.
I can do all of those things.
But my lungs are not a nuclear reactor.
Post by Blind Freddie
You need to realise that our reality is totally engineered by those
who wish to keep humanity in submission and under control.
What we consider reality isn't really how the real world works.
Information is power and keeping information secret and conditioning
people to accept false ideas of the truth, is how they keep people in
submission and easy to control.
Amazing how stupid you are, Carole. I expected you would try in your feeble
mind to support this scam.
Post by Blind Freddie
Even most of citations are the same sort of fallacy based claims.
--
Blind Freddie
"None so blind as those who will not see"
7 Massive Misconceptions Many Never Question
http://tinyurl.com/jg9jay3
A brief history of FDA raids against providers of natural health
products
https://thebovine.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/a-brief-history-of-fda-raids-against-providers-of-natural-health-products/
Tyranny in the USA: The true history of FDA raids on healers, vitamin
shops and supplement companies
http://www.naturalnews.com/021791.html
The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry
http://tinyurl.com/zgmi
DDT
"A former high official at the NSA (National Security Agency) told me
about a protocol informally dubbed DDT - that old poisonous chemical
long-banned in much of the world. In this application, it stands for
Decoy, Distract and Trash - which is what sophisticated intelligence
operatives use to set up some person or group, take them off the trail
of something real and important, and trash the person or the
subject." -- Stephen Greer.
Suppression of dissent in science
Brian Martin / Research in Social Problems and Public Policy, Volume 7
1999
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Suppression-Dissent-Science.htm
Pan Pharmaceuticals
The founder of Pan Pharmaceuticals, the company which had its licence
withdrawn by the Therapeutic Goods Administration in 2003, has
received a record $50 million payout from the Federal Government.
- Founder 'blameless'
- 400 jobs lost
- Public inquiry wanted
Jim Selim had sued the TGA for compensation for ruining his business,
claiming public servants had acted outside their power and with
vengeance when withdrawing the licence after concerns over certain
products and manufacturing processes.
TGA shareholders lost $350 million, almost 400 people lost their jobs,
and Pan's customers lost hundreds of millions of dollars in business,
Mr Selim's lawyer Andrew Thorpe said outside the court today.
http://tinyurl.com/p8nkyco
Cover Stories invented to engineer public opinions
"Many people have been so concerned about what has been happening to
our Government that they have dedicated themselves to investigating
and exposing its evils. Unfortunately, a number of these writers have
been dupes of those cleverer than they or with sinister reasons for
concealing knowledge. They have written what they thought was the
truth, only to find out (if they ever did find out) that they had been
fed a lot of contrived cover stories and just plain hogwash. In this
book I have taken extracts from some of this writing and, line by
line, have shown how it has been manipulated to give a semblance of
truth while at the same time being contrived and false. " -- The
Secret Team, Fletcher L. Prouty,
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/USO/appA.html 
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John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
Blind Freddie
2017-07-07 16:12:10 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 02:48:26 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:16:50 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by kaye
Post by ⊙_⊙
Fact Check Medical
Do Breatharians Survive Without Food or Water?
Claims about "breatharians" resurfaced in June 2017, but once again
people purportedly living on light alone did not offer proof that they survive this way.
CLAIM
A Californian and Ecuadorian couple proved it is possible to live on nothing but air.
RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In mid-June 2017, tabloids and similar sources published articles about a
couple that purports to survive by eating little to no food. Akahi
Ricardo and Camila Castello, the articles said, call themselves
?breatharians,? and say they survive on ?the universe?s energy,? along
with pieces of fruit and vegetable broth eaten 2-3 times per week.
This is not the first time that people have made this claim. A Wikipedia
page for the practice perhaps best sums it up in noting that ?[t]hough it
is common knowledge that biological entities require sustenance to
survive, breatharianism continues.? Notably, The Sun and many
regurgitators of the piece repeated claims purportedly made by Ricardo
and Castello without checking them against very basic science
Camila and Akahi ? who have a five-year-old son and two-year-old daughter
together ? have survived on little else besides a piece of fruit or
vegetable broth just 3 times per week since 2008.
And Camila even practised a Breatharian PREGNANCY ? not eating anything
during the entire nine months that she carried her first child.
The married couple-of-nine-years claim that their ?food-free lifestyle?
has improved their health and emotional well-being as well as meaning
they can spend money on travelling rather than the weekly shop ? Camila
explained: ?I was completely open to changing my food-free lifestyle when
I first became pregnant because my child came first. But I just never
felt hungry so I ended up practicing a fully Breatharian pregnancy.
?I didn?t feel the need or desire to eat solid food during the entire
nine months and so I only ate 5 times, all of which were in social situations.
Throughout the profile (which was republished across the web with no
additional fact checking), the couple alternately claimed to eat
occasionally and to describe themselves as ?food free.? Whether the
couple claimed to eat very little or nothing at all, no apparent
verification of their claims was made before pushing the dangerous
suggestion one could live without food or water out to large audiences.
Predictably, the practice has indeed proved fatal. Victims in Scotland,
Australia, and Switzerland were among individuals who died in an attempt
to survive without food or water. A 1999 Guardian article about the
Experts differ as to the absolute maximum length of time that human life
can continue without water, but the broad consensus rests at somewhere
between seven and 10 days ? though severe dehydration and confusion (due
to the build-up of sodium and potassium in the brain) would set in
sooner. In the desert, of course, lack of water can kill in a matter of hours.
?It depends on the climate, and how much exercise you?re taking, but if
you?re lying in bed you would probably be just about all right for a
week,? says Dr Charles Clarke, who specialises in high-altitude survival
medicine and has accompanied the climber Chris Bonington on expeditions
to Mount Everest. ?But towards the end of the first week, you?d become
pretty gravely ill. Your blood would become thicker, your kidneys can?t
cope; multiple organ failure follows, you get hypothermic and eventually you die.?
Moreover, the couple profiled by The Sun weren?t the first ?breatharians?
to admit to or be caught eating food while claiming not to eat or drink.
Jasmuheen, an ex-business woman and founder of the movement has never
proved she doesn?t eat, demonstrates signs of eating, and nutritional
experts believe the claim may be a delusion shared among individuals who
Jasmuheen freely admits to drinking orange juice regularly and
occasionally nibbling chocolate biscuits for a ?taste sensation?. In the
past she has described her diet as including tea with honey and soya
milk, chocolate, crisps, soup and the odd piece of fruit. Thoeretically,
a diet consisting of those foods in small amounts could represent a
calorific intake to which the body could adjust without significant weight loss.
Reporters visiting Jasmuheen?s Brisbane home have been bewildered to find
her fridge well-stocked with vegetarian food which, she says, belongs to
her partner Jeff Ferguson, a convicted fraudster. And a British
journalist accompanying Jasmuheen to her check-in desk at Heathrow last
December was astonished when the BA clerk asked her to confirm that she?d
ordered an in-flight vegetarian meal. ?No, no,? she replied. ?Well, yes,
OK, I did. But I won?t be eating it.?
Although claims of ?breatharians? surviving and thriving pop up every few
years, we were unable to find any evidence contradicting the body of
science demonstrating humans require water and food to stay alive. It?s
possible the couple profiled by The Sun in June 2017 both genuinely made
and believed their own claims, but we found no proof the impossible
assertion was actually true. When tested, purported breatharians such as
Jasmuheen failed to last more than a few days without food and water.
Feedback
Sources
Filed Under:BreatharianBreatharianismDangerous Woo+1 More
Fact Checker:Kim LaCapria
Featured Image:Shutterstock
Published:Jun 16th, 2017
http://www.snopes.com/breatharians/
Ummm, this is the same article I linked to earlier Sunday. In fact these
people do eat. They are disingenuous of them to pretend they don't. If
their claims were true, then people would not die of starvation.
Popular press brings this up ever so often. The claims are false and as the ad
hoc fallacy. The claims are made with no evidence and as simply on the
basis of "it truth because I say-so".
Most all of Carole's claims are simply a person making a claim not based on
data or evidence, but upon personal say-so.
This claim resembles most of your nonsense.
Who do you think you are you responding to bob?
Supposedly Carole BUT in fact it is the original article posted by ???
You're a nutjob bob.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
Bob FYI this posts by ??? aren't any of carole's socks.
So you're too smart for your own good.
And since you are so smart you should know that things that are
considered impossible at one time, don't always remain so.
Living on prana is fantastic and needing more information to verify --
but its not impossible, just impossible according to modern science.
These people have been caught lying over and over again.
Sure, maybe they have.
I wouldn't try to live on prana and expect any sort of success.
However, that's not to say there is absolutely nothing in the theory.
There are yogis in the east who can perform feats -- I'd have to look
it up -- but they can do some remarkable things that you wouldn't
think possible.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
There is no such thing as solid matter, when you go down to the
tiniest atoms there are merely swirling balls of energy.
Matter and Energy: A False Dichotomy
https://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/particle-physics-basics/mass-energy-matter-etc/matter-and-energy-a-false-dichotomy/
Matter is made up of energy.
It is not impossible that a person somehow could draw on the energy of
the universe to sustain themselves somehow, to convert energy into
matter (food). Why not?
Unless they have a nuclear reactor in their lungs, matter will remain
matter.
But this is what I'm saying.
Matter at its very core is just energy -- all solid matter, ie what
appears solid to us -- when you get down to the tinest elements of
what it is made of, it is swirling energy of some sort.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
I can't do it, I don't personally know anybody who can do it. There
are many things I can't do such as electrical work, plumbing or
carpentry. That is not to say that others can't do these things.
I can do all of those things.
But my lungs are not a nuclear reactor.
A nuclear reactor changes matter by explosion.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
You need to realise that our reality is totally engineered by those
who wish to keep humanity in submission and under control.
What we consider reality isn't really how the real world works.
Information is power and keeping information secret and conditioning
people to accept false ideas of the truth, is how they keep people in
submission and easy to control.
Amazing how stupid you are, Carole. I expected you would try in your feeble
mind to support this scam.
I don't support breatharian-ism and I don't say there's absolutely
nothing in the theory. It is one of those things people wonder about.
I don't like people telling me what I can or can't support - like to
be given the facts and make up my own mind.
Unfortunately, there are people in this world who like to keep all the
facts hidden, so a person not only has to make up their mind about a
topic but have to go searching for information that can be almost
impossible to find any hint or trace of.

They give you some impossible situation, like breatharianism, rubbish
it and call anybody who supports it a fraud, then dismiss any
possibility of any other related more spiritual type concepts at the
same time.
I believe there is a lot of hidden information denied the public --
just not sure what all of it is, what to believe and what not to
believe. One thing I do believe is that information is screened and
anything that would benefit humanity is kept hidden for reasons of
"national security" or whatever.


I tried to check out breatharianism once and found some online club or
whatever. I asked a member a question and got "why do you want to
know?" as a response. Why the hell do you think I wanted to know?
Isn't it obvious I was trying to work out if it was true or not.
What's wrong with getting a straight answer.

So I just dropped it and haven't enquired any further since that time.
Yes, it is most probably a scam, and there are a lot of scams and
scammers out there. However, usually if there's a scam, somebody is
trying to sell something and make money, which doesn't seem to be the
case here.

And to say that somebody is married to a noted scammer, can raise more
questions than answers. eg if somebody is being discredited like a
whistleblower for example, they are maligned in some way, false info
put out about them or people they associate with.

So its still a big question mark, like so many other things they don't
want us to know about, and then I move on.
People need to know when to move on.
If you don't understand something there's no point in getting bogged
down for any reason. I just label things "unresolved" and move on.




--
Blind Freddie
"None so blind as those who will not see"

7 Massive Misconceptions Many Never Question
http://tinyurl.com/jg9jay3

A brief history of FDA raids against providers of natural health
products
https://thebovine.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/a-brief-history-of-fda-raids-against-providers-of-natural-health-products/

Tyranny in the USA: The true history of FDA raids on healers, vitamin
shops and supplement companies
http://www.naturalnews.com/021791.html

The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry
http://tinyurl.com/zgmi


DDT
"A former high official at the NSA (National Security Agency) told me
about a protocol informally dubbed DDT - that old poisonous chemical
long-banned in much of the world. In this application, it stands for
Decoy, Distract and Trash - which is what sophisticated intelligence
operatives use to set up some person or group, take them off the trail
of something real and important, and trash the person or the
subject." -- Stephen Greer.



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2017-07-08 00:00:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Blind Freddie
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 02:48:26 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:16:50 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by kaye
Post by ⊙_⊙
Fact Check Medical
Do Breatharians Survive Without Food or Water?
Claims about "breatharians" resurfaced in June 2017, but once again
people purportedly living on light alone did not offer proof that
they survive this way.
CLAIM
A Californian and Ecuadorian couple proved it is possible to live on nothing but air.
RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In mid-June 2017, tabloids and similar sources published articles about a
couple that purports to survive by eating little to no food. Akahi
Ricardo and Camila Castello, the articles said, call themselves
?breatharians,? and say they survive on ?the universe?s energy,? along
with pieces of fruit and vegetable broth eaten 2-3 times per week.
This is not the first time that people have made this claim. A Wikipedia
page for the practice perhaps best sums it up in noting that ?[t]hough it
is common knowledge that biological entities require sustenance to
survive, breatharianism continues.? Notably, The Sun and many
regurgitators of the piece repeated claims purportedly made by Ricardo
and Castello without checking them against very basic science
Camila and Akahi ? who have a five-year-old son and two-year-old daughter
together ? have survived on little else besides a piece of fruit or
vegetable broth just 3 times per week since 2008.
And Camila even practised a Breatharian PREGNANCY ? not eating anything
during the entire nine months that she carried her first child.
The married couple-of-nine-years claim that their ?food-free lifestyle?
has improved their health and emotional well-being as well as meaning
they can spend money on travelling rather than the weekly shop ? Camila
explained: ?I was completely open to changing my food-free lifestyle when
I first became pregnant because my child came first. But I just never
felt hungry so I ended up practicing a fully Breatharian pregnancy.
?I didn?t feel the need or desire to eat solid food during the entire
nine months and so I only ate 5 times, all of which were in social situations.
Throughout the profile (which was republished across the web with no
additional fact checking), the couple alternately claimed to eat
occasionally and to describe themselves as ?food free.? Whether the
couple claimed to eat very little or nothing at all, no apparent
verification of their claims was made before pushing the dangerous
suggestion one could live without food or water out to large audiences.
Predictably, the practice has indeed proved fatal. Victims in Scotland,
Australia, and Switzerland were among individuals who died in an attempt
to survive without food or water. A 1999 Guardian article about the
Experts differ as to the absolute maximum length of time that human life
can continue without water, but the broad consensus rests at somewhere
between seven and 10 days ? though severe dehydration and confusion (due
to the build-up of sodium and potassium in the brain) would set in
sooner. In the desert, of course, lack of water can kill in a matter of hours.
?It depends on the climate, and how much exercise you?re taking, but if
you?re lying in bed you would probably be just about all right for a
week,? says Dr Charles Clarke, who specialises in high-altitude survival
medicine and has accompanied the climber Chris Bonington on expeditions
to Mount Everest. ?But towards the end of the first week, you?d become
pretty gravely ill. Your blood would become thicker, your kidneys can?t
cope; multiple organ failure follows, you get hypothermic and eventually you die.?
Moreover, the couple profiled by The Sun weren?t the first ?breatharians?
to admit to or be caught eating food while claiming not to eat or drink.
Jasmuheen, an ex-business woman and founder of the movement has never
proved she doesn?t eat, demonstrates signs of eating, and nutritional
experts believe the claim may be a delusion shared among individuals who
Jasmuheen freely admits to drinking orange juice regularly and
occasionally nibbling chocolate biscuits for a ?taste sensation?. In the
past she has described her diet as including tea with honey and soya
milk, chocolate, crisps, soup and the odd piece of fruit. Thoeretically,
a diet consisting of those foods in small amounts could represent a
calorific intake to which the body could adjust without significant weight loss.
Reporters visiting Jasmuheen?s Brisbane home have been bewildered to find
her fridge well-stocked with vegetarian food which, she says, belongs to
her partner Jeff Ferguson, a convicted fraudster. And a British
journalist accompanying Jasmuheen to her check-in desk at Heathrow last
December was astonished when the BA clerk asked her to confirm that she?d
ordered an in-flight vegetarian meal. ?No, no,? she replied. ?Well, yes,
OK, I did. But I won?t be eating it.?
Although claims of ?breatharians? surviving and thriving pop up every few
years, we were unable to find any evidence contradicting the body of
science demonstrating humans require water and food to stay alive. It?s
possible the couple profiled by The Sun in June 2017 both genuinely made
and believed their own claims, but we found no proof the impossible
assertion was actually true. When tested, purported breatharians such as
Jasmuheen failed to last more than a few days without food and water.
Feedback
Sources
Filed Under:BreatharianBreatharianismDangerous Woo+1 More
Fact Checker:Kim LaCapria
Featured Image:Shutterstock
Published:Jun 16th, 2017
http://www.snopes.com/breatharians/
Ummm, this is the same article I linked to earlier Sunday. In fact these
people do eat. They are disingenuous of them to pretend they don't. If
their claims were true, then people would not die of starvation.
Popular press brings this up ever so often. The claims are false and as the ad
hoc fallacy. The claims are made with no evidence and as simply on the
basis of "it truth because I say-so".
Most all of Carole's claims are simply a person making a claim not based on
data or evidence, but upon personal say-so.
This claim resembles most of your nonsense.
Who do you think you are you responding to bob?
Supposedly Carole BUT in fact it is the original article posted by ???
You're a nutjob bob.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
Bob FYI this posts by ??? aren't any of carole's socks.
So you're too smart for your own good.
And since you are so smart you should know that things that are
considered impossible at one time, don't always remain so.
Living on prana is fantastic and needing more information to verify --
but its not impossible, just impossible according to modern science.
These people have been caught lying over and over again.
Sure, maybe they have.
I wouldn't try to live on prana and expect any sort of success.
However, that's not to say there is absolutely nothing in the theory.
There are yogis in the east who can perform feats -- I'd have to look
it up -- but they can do some remarkable things that you wouldn't
think possible.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
There is no such thing as solid matter, when you go down to the
tiniest atoms there are merely swirling balls of energy.
Matter and Energy: A False Dichotomy
https://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/particle-physics-basics/mass-energy-matter-etc/matter-and-energy-a-false-dichotomy/
Matter is made up of energy.
It is not impossible that a person somehow could draw on the energy of
the universe to sustain themselves somehow, to convert energy into
matter (food). Why not?
Unless they have a nuclear reactor in their lungs, matter will remain
matter.
But this is what I'm saying.
Matter at its very core is just energy -- all solid matter, ie what
appears solid to us -- when you get down to the tinest elements of
what it is made of, it is swirling energy of some sort.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
I can't do it, I don't personally know anybody who can do it. There
are many things I can't do such as electrical work, plumbing or
carpentry. That is not to say that others can't do these things.
I can do all of those things.
But my lungs are not a nuclear reactor.
A nuclear reactor changes matter by explosion.
Where in the fuck did you get that idea?

No wonder you get duped so easily you're just ignorant to the point of
stupidity.
Post by Blind Freddie
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Blind Freddie
You need to realise that our reality is totally engineered by those
who wish to keep humanity in submission and under control.
What we consider reality isn't really how the real world works.
Information is power and keeping information secret and conditioning
people to accept false ideas of the truth, is how they keep people in
submission and easy to control.
Amazing how stupid you are, Carole. I expected you would try in your feeble
mind to support this scam.
I don't support breatharian-ism and I don't say there's absolutely
nothing in the theory. It is one of those things people wonder about.
I don't like people telling me what I can or can't support - like to
be given the facts and make up my own mind.
There no theory Carole for it to be a theory, evidence is required. What it
is claim based on a personal say so. It is formally called post hoc
fallacy.
Post by Blind Freddie
Unfortunately, there are people in this world who like to keep all the
facts hidden, so a person not only has to make up their mind about a
topic but have to go searching for information that can be almost
impossible to find any hint or trace of.
There are no facts to support it.
Post by Blind Freddie
They give you some impossible situation, like breatharianism, rubbish
it and call anybody who supports it a fraud, then dismiss any
possibility of any other related more spiritual type concepts at the
same time.
I believe there is a lot of hidden information denied the public --
just not sure what all of it is, what to believe and what not to
believe. One thing I do believe is that information is screened and
anything that would benefit humanity is kept hidden for reasons of
"national security" or whatever.
I tried to check out breatharianism once and found some online club or
whatever. I asked a member a question and got "why do you want to
know?" as a response. Why the hell do you think I wanted to know?
Isn't it obvious I was trying to work out if it was true or not.
What's wrong with getting a straight answer.
There straight answer is it is scam or con designed to make someone else
wealthy while other suffer.
Post by Blind Freddie
So I just dropped it and haven't enquired any further since that time.
Yes, it is most probably a scam, and there are a lot of scams and
scammers out there. However, usually if there's a scam, somebody is
trying to sell something and make money, which doesn't seem to be the
case here.
And to say that somebody is married to a noted scammer, can raise more
questions than answers. eg if somebody is being discredited like a
whistleblower for example, they are maligned in some way, false info
put out about them or people they associate with.
So its still a big question mark, like so many other things they don't
want us to know about, and then I move on.
People need to know when to move on.
If you don't understand something there's no point in getting bogged
down for any reason. I just label things "unresolved" and move on.
And you proudly wear the label of gullible and ignorant.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:
http://youtu.be/rW9R6jgE7SQ
⊙_⊙
2017-06-28 18:07:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Blind Freddie
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:16:50 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by kaye
Post by ⊙_⊙
Fact Check Medical
Do Breatharians Survive Without Food or Water?
Claims about "breatharians" resurfaced in June 2017, but once again
people purportedly living on light alone did not offer proof that they survive this way.
CLAIM
A Californian and Ecuadorian couple proved it is possible to live on nothing but air.
RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In mid-June 2017, tabloids and similar sources published articles about a
couple that purports to survive by eating little to no food. Akahi
Ricardo and Camila Castello, the articles said, call themselves
“breatharians,” and say they survive on “the universe’s energy,” along
with pieces of fruit and vegetable broth eaten 2-3 times per week.
This is not the first time that people have made this claim. A Wikipedia
page for the practice perhaps best sums it up in noting that “[t]hough it
is common knowledge that biological entities require sustenance to
survive, breatharianism continues.” Notably, The Sun and many
regurgitators of the piece repeated claims purportedly made by Ricardo
Camila and Akahi – who have a five-year-old son and two-year-old daughter
together – have survived on little else besides a piece of fruit or
vegetable broth just 3 times per week since 2008.
And Camila even practised a Breatharian PREGNANCY – not eating anything
during the entire nine months that she carried her first child.
The married couple-of-nine-years claim that their “food-free lifestyle”
has improved their health and emotional well-being as well as meaning
they can spend money on travelling rather than the weekly shop … Camila
explained: “I was completely open to changing my food-free lifestyle when
I first became pregnant because my child came first. But I just never
felt hungry so I ended up practicing a fully Breatharian pregnancy.
“I didn’t feel the need or desire to eat solid food during the entire
nine months and so I only ate 5 times, all of which were in social situations.
Throughout the profile (which was republished across the web with no
additional fact checking), the couple alternately claimed to eat
occasionally and to describe themselves as “food free.” Whether the
couple claimed to eat very little or nothing at all, no apparent
verification of their claims was made before pushing the dangerous
suggestion one could live without food or water out to large audiences.
Predictably, the practice has indeed proved fatal. Victims in Scotland,
Australia, and Switzerland were among individuals who died in an attempt
to survive without food or water. A 1999 Guardian article about the
Experts differ as to the absolute maximum length of time that human life
can continue without water, but the broad consensus rests at somewhere
between seven and 10 days – though severe dehydration and confusion (due
to the build-up of sodium and potassium in the brain) would set in
sooner. In the desert, of course, lack of water can kill in a matter of hours.
“It depends on the climate, and how much exercise you’re taking, but if
you’re lying in bed you would probably be just about all right for a
week,” says Dr Charles Clarke, who specialises in high-altitude survival
medicine and has accompanied the climber Chris Bonington on expeditions
to Mount Everest. “But towards the end of the first week, you’d become
pretty gravely ill. Your blood would become thicker, your kidneys can’t
cope; multiple organ failure follows, you get hypothermic and eventually you die.”
Moreover, the couple profiled by The Sun weren’t the first “breatharians”
to admit to or be caught eating food while claiming not to eat or drink.
Jasmuheen, an ex-business woman and founder of the movement has never
proved she doesn’t eat, demonstrates signs of eating, and nutritional
experts believe the claim may be a delusion shared among individuals who
Jasmuheen freely admits to drinking orange juice regularly and
occasionally nibbling chocolate biscuits for a “taste sensation”. In the
past she has described her diet as including tea with honey and soya
milk, chocolate, crisps, soup and the odd piece of fruit. Thoeretically,
a diet consisting of those foods in small amounts could represent a
calorific intake to which the body could adjust without significant weight loss.
Reporters visiting Jasmuheen’s Brisbane home have been bewildered to find
her fridge well-stocked with vegetarian food which, she says, belongs to
her partner Jeff Ferguson, a convicted fraudster. And a British
journalist accompanying Jasmuheen to her check-in desk at Heathrow last
December was astonished when the BA clerk asked her to confirm that she’d
ordered an in-flight vegetarian meal. “No, no,” she replied. “Well, yes,
OK, I did. But I won’t be eating it.”
Although claims of “breatharians” surviving and thriving pop up every few
years, we were unable to find any evidence contradicting the body of
science demonstrating humans require water and food to stay alive. It’s
possible the couple profiled by The Sun in June 2017 both genuinely made
and believed their own claims, but we found no proof the impossible
assertion was actually true. When tested, purported breatharians such as
Jasmuheen failed to last more than a few days without food and water.
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Ummm, this is the same article I linked to earlier Sunday. In fact these
people do eat. They are disingenuous of them to pretend they don't. If
their claims were true, then people would not die of starvation.
Popular press brings this ever so often. The claim are false and as the ad
hoc fallacy. The claims are made with no evidence and as simply on the
basis of "it truth because I say-so".
Most all of Carole's claims are simply a person making a claim not based on
data or evidence, but upon personal say-so.
Bob FYI this posts by ??? aren't any of carole's socks.
So you're too smart for your own good.
And since you are so smart you should know that things that are
considered impossible at one time, don't always remain so.
Living on prana is fantastic and needing more information to verify --
but its not impossible, just impossible according to modern science.
There is no such thing as solid matter, when you go down to the
tiniest atoms there are merely swirling balls of energy.
Matter and Energy: A False Dichotomy
https://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/particle-physics-basics/mass-energy-matter-etc/matter-and-energy-a-false-dichotomy/
Matter is made up of energy.
It is not impossible that a person somehow could draw on the energy of
the universe to sustain themselves somehow, to convert energy into
matter (food). Why not?
I can't do it, I don't personally know anybody who can do it. There
are many things I can't do such as electrical work, plumbing or
carpentry. That is not to say that others can't do these things.
You need to realise that our reality is totally engineered by those
who wish to keep humanity in submission and under control.
What we consider reality isn't really how the real world works.
Information is power and keeping information secret and conditioning
people to accept false ideas of the truth, is how they keep people in
submission and easy to control.
Post by Bob Officer
Even most of citations are the same sort of fallacy based claims.
--
Blind Freddie
"None so blind as those who will not see"
7 Massive Misconceptions Many Never Question
http://tinyurl.com/jg9jay3
A brief history of FDA raids against providers of natural health
products
https://thebovine.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/a-brief-history-of-fda-raids-against-providers-of-natural-health-products/
Tyranny in the USA: The true history of FDA raids on healers, vitamin
shops and supplement companies
http://www.naturalnews.com/021791.html
The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry
http://tinyurl.com/zgmi
DDT
"A former high official at the NSA (National Security Agency) told me
about a protocol informally dubbed DDT - that old poisonous chemical
long-banned in much of the world. In this application, it stands for
Decoy, Distract and Trash - which is what sophisticated intelligence
operatives use to set up some person or group, take them off the trail
of something real and important, and trash the person or the
subject." -- Stephen Greer.
Suppression of dissent in science
Brian Martin / Research in Social Problems and Public Policy, Volume 7
1999
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Suppression-Dissent-Science.htm
Pan Pharmaceuticals
The founder of Pan Pharmaceuticals, the company which had its licence
withdrawn by the Therapeutic Goods Administration in 2003, has
received a record $50 million payout from the Federal Government.
- Founder 'blameless'
- 400 jobs lost
- Public inquiry wanted
Jim Selim had sued the TGA for compensation for ruining his business,
claiming public servants had acted outside their power and with
vengeance when withdrawing the licence after concerns over certain
products and manufacturing processes.
TGA shareholders lost $350 million, almost 400 people lost their jobs,
and Pan's customers lost hundreds of millions of dollars in business,
Mr Selim's lawyer Andrew Thorpe said outside the court today.
http://tinyurl.com/p8nkyco
Cover Stories invented to engineer public opinions
"Many people have been so concerned about what has been happening to
our Government that they have dedicated themselves to investigating
and exposing its evils. Unfortunately, a number of these writers have
been dupes of those cleverer than they or with sinister reasons for
concealing knowledge. They have written what they thought was the
truth, only to find out (if they ever did find out) that they had been
fed a lot of contrived cover stories and just plain hogwash. In this
book I have taken extracts from some of this writing and, line by
line, have shown how it has been manipulated to give a semblance of
truth while at the same time being contrived and false. " -- The
Secret Team, Fletcher L. Prouty,
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/USO/appA.html 
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This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
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Fact Check Medical

Do Breatharians Survive Without Food or Water?

Claims about "breatharians" resurfaced in June 2017, but once again people purportedly living on light alone did not offer proof that they survive this way.


CLAIM
A Californian and Ecuadorian couple proved it is possible to live on nothing but air.

RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In mid-June 2017, tabloids and similar sources published articles about a couple that purports to survive by eating little to no food. Akahi Ricardo and Camila Castello, the articles said, call themselves “breatharians,” and say they survive on “the universe’s energy,” along with pieces of fruit and vegetable broth eaten 2-3 times per week.

This is not the first time that people have made this claim. A Wikipedia page for the practice perhaps best sums it up in noting that “[t]hough it is common knowledge that biological entities require sustenance to survive, breatharianism continues.” Notably, The Sun and many regurgitators of the piece repeated claims purportedly made by Ricardo and Castello without checking them against very basic science understood across humanity:

Camila and Akahi – who have a five-year-old son and two-year-old daughter together – have survived on little else besides a piece of fruit or vegetable broth just 3 times per week since 2008.

And Camila even practised a Breatharian PREGNANCY – not eating anything during the entire nine months that she carried her first child.

The married couple-of-nine-years claim that their “food-free lifestyle” has improved their health and emotional well-being as well as meaning they can spend money on travelling rather than the weekly shop … Camila explained: “I was completely open to changing my food-free lifestyle when I first became pregnant because my child came first. But I just never felt hungry so I ended up practicing a fully Breatharian pregnancy.

“I didn’t feel the need or desire to eat solid food during the entire nine months and so I only ate 5 times, all of which were in social situations.
Throughout the profile (which was republished across the web with no additional fact checking), the couple alternately claimed to eat occasionally and to describe themselves as “food free.” Whether the couple claimed to eat very little or nothing at all, no apparent verification of their claims was made before pushing the dangerous suggestion one could live without food or water out to large audiences.

Predictably, the practice has indeed proved fatal. Victims in Scotland, Australia, and Switzerland were among individuals who died in an attempt to survive without food or water. A 1999 Guardian article about the deaths quoted an expert on survival medicine:

Experts differ as to the absolute maximum length of time that human life can continue without water, but the broad consensus rests at somewhere between seven and 10 days – though severe dehydration and confusion (due to the build-up of sodium and potassium in the brain) would set in sooner. In the desert, of course, lack of water can kill in a matter of hours.

“It depends on the climate, and how much exercise you’re taking, but if you’re lying in bed you would probably be just about all right for a week,” says Dr Charles Clarke, who specialises in high-altitude survival medicine and has accompanied the climber Chris Bonington on expeditions to Mount Everest. “But towards the end of the first week, you’d become pretty gravely ill. Your blood would become thicker, your kidneys can’t cope; multiple organ failure follows, you get hypothermic and eventually you die.”
Moreover, the couple profiled by The Sun weren’t the first “breatharians” to admit to or be caught eating food while claiming not to eat or drink. Jasmuheen, an ex-business woman and founder of the movement has never proved she doesn’t eat, demonstrates signs of eating, and nutritional experts believe the claim may be a delusion shared among individuals who underestimate their “occasional” eating:

Jasmuheen freely admits to drinking orange juice regularly and occasionally nibbling chocolate biscuits for a “taste sensation”. In the past she has described her diet as including tea with honey and soya milk, chocolate, crisps, soup and the odd piece of fruit. Thoeretically, a diet consisting of those foods in small amounts could represent a calorific intake to which the body could adjust without significant weight loss.

Reporters visiting Jasmuheen’s Brisbane home have been bewildered to find her fridge well-stocked with vegetarian food which, she says, belongs to her partner Jeff Ferguson, a convicted fraudster. And a British journalist accompanying Jasmuheen to her check-in desk at Heathrow last December was astonished when the BA clerk asked her to confirm that she’d ordered an in-flight vegetarian meal. “No, no,” she replied. “Well, yes, OK, I did. But I won’t be eating it.”




Although claims of “breatharians” surviving and thriving pop up every few years, we were unable to find any evidence contradicting the body of science demonstrating humans require water and food to stay alive. It’s possible the couple profiled by The Sun in June 2017 both genuinely made and believed their own claims, but we found no proof the impossible assertion was actually true. When tested, purported breatharians such as Jasmuheen failed to last more than a few days without food and water.



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2017-06-28 18:10:49 UTC
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Breatharianism: Is It Possible to Live Without Food and Water?
Updated on June 22, 2017

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Breatharianism: a Definition

The idea of being able to live without physical food to sustain the body, called Breatharianism, has been around for a long time, but it's only in recent years that it has really been brought to the attention of the media. For example, we have inexplicable cases such as Prahlad Jani (see BBC News article Fasting fakir flummoxes physicians) which provided a level of proof for this phenomenon, but also deaths caused by peoples' attempts to becoming Breatharian. There are also certain examples that defy normal nutritional science, such as the Swedish man who survived for two months trapped in his car, which is nutritionally inexplicable in conventional terms.

The usual reaction is one of scorn and derision by people faced with the alleged ability of someone to live without food. Initial criticisms range from direct condemnation without pause for thought, to more varied arguments, such as, if someone can live without food, why can't the starving millions of this planet live without food?

Most of the answers to these questions, however, cannot satisfy the mind of someone immersed in empirical science of the physical world. The scientific mind resides in a purely empirical world, when clearly there are things way beyond its scope, whether it be so-called Breatharianism or other unusual phenomena.

Before providing information on how alleged Breatharianism works, the process to it, but also the people past and present who have apparently lived without food, a few definitions.


Breatharianism - a definition

Breatharianism is not fasting - though it could be seen as the fast that never ends. Even so, Breatharianism is also called 'inedia', from the Latin meaning fasting.

Also, Breatharianism is meant to denote someone who neither eats nor drinks, though sometimes it is used to denote someone who doesn't eat but does drink. Someone who doesn't eat but does drink is technically a Waterian.

How it works

Breatharianism centers on the notion that everything the human body needs, is in the energy that surrounds and pervades it, and that it can draw on this energy to sustain itself. The term breatharianism infers that the 'breath' is of importance and that the life-force can be inhaled to directly sustain the body. However, others say that in fact, it's possible to draw energy from anything really, as everything is imbued with this energy.

Thus, the difference between someone who is on a hunger strike and dies (or someone who is poor and starving, and dies), and someone who doesn't die from not having any (physical) nutrition, is due to deep inner transformation. Literature on the subject shows that just having the intention to 'live off light' isn't enough, but that something else takes over; that there's a subtle two way process at work,

The path to Breatharianism, involves detoxifying the body, so that it can reside in its perfect state, where it does not need to eat. This is a slow process that can take many years, beginning with the removal of meat from ones diet, to removing manufactured foods and anything that adds toxicity to the body, slowly gravitating from fruits and raw vegetables to liquids only. And for some, apparently the removal of liquids as well, which is only possible once the body has reached a state of real internal cleanliness.

Inediates perceive the truth, that eating physical substances, conceals the fact that actually the energy that keeps us alive doesn't come from physical food. The Bible's garden of Eden comes to mind, and that fateful apple. The conjecture is that humans, as they forgot their spiritual origins as direct reflections of God (God made man in his own image), needed to sustain themselves in other ways, rather than just from the subtle life-force, and so looked for things to put into themselves, to energise themselves with; and in the process, developed coarser and coarser digestive systems, and eventually even began killing and eating other developed conscious entities, such as animals, which was the final nail in the coffin for developed consciousness.

Christians may have read Matthew 4:4: "Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'" (New International Version 1984) The Logos (Christian usage of) can be seen as a direct nourishing force. So whether one calls it 'The force' from Star Wars, Chi, Prana, Love, Logos, or Holy Spirit, it is this same energy that pervades all of Creation. As we will see, a fair number of inediates can be found in the Christian tradition (see list below), where saints claimed to be kept alive solely by the Holy Spirit.


Breatharianism and its stages - Master Liao Fong-Sheng

A concise explanation of Breatharianism, and it's stages, can be viewed here, where a Qigong Breatharian, Master Liao Fong-Sheng, explains things clearly. It does away with some of the explanations that some other Breatharians have put forward, where abstract notions and terms confuse the issue. The video is taken from Supreme Master TV which I know little about, except that the main woman is highly revered, while others classify it as a cult.

The video is in 3 parts.

Part 1


Part 2



Part 3


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An interesting book by a Professor and Breatharian

Professor Michael Werner, a Breatharian himself, has written a book on the subject, called Life from Light: is it Possible to Live Without Food? He discusses his first exposure to the idea of living off Light, to his own involvement in the process.

Christians in history who were Inediates

Historically, the ability to live without food has been ascribed to not only people from an Eastern tradition, but also Christian.

These are the profiled saints alleged to have the ability to live without food.

Alphais
Helen Enselmini
Elisabeth the Good
Lydwina of Schiedam
Mary Ann de Paredes
Saint Nicholas of Flue
Saint Catherine of Siena
Louise Lateau (also a stigmatist)


Some other Inediates in history

My search has lead me to find two notable Inediates from India. Giri Bala, and Devraha Baba (who is alleged to have lived to 250 years old). Giri Bala is an interesting case, as she was an avid eater, even a scoffer of great quantities of food, before becoming a Breatharian. In her case, it was a sense of shame and embarassement she felt, when her mother-in-law made comments about her eating habits, that lead her to pray to God, that she may never eat again. Her story is wonderfully recounted in an Autobiography of a Yogi, by Yogananda - Chapter 46 The Woman Yogi Who Never Eats.

Devraha Baba is notable for his longevity. Breatharians say that their toxic free bodies allow them to live longer and healthier lives than people who eat. In fact, he was so old (250) that the first President of India, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, said more than fifty years ago, that his father had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba as a child (in the middle of the nineteenth century! Apparently, Devraha Baba was already elderly at that time.)

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Part 2



Part 3


Part 4


Part 5


Western Breatharians

This section can't be written without mentioning the famous Western Breatharian called Jasmuheen. While Jasmuheen has been known to have helped a lot of people on their path, there appears to be a lack of confidence in what she claims.

The following video is very biased against her, and the documentarist is hell-bent on discrediting her, rightly or wrongly?


What is the point of Breatharianism?

According to Giri Bala, living without eating is done to prove that man is Spirit. From Chapter 46 of an Autobiography of a Yogi:

““Mother,” I said slowly, “what is the use of your having been singled out to live without eating?”

“To prove that man is Spirit.” Her face lit with wisdom. “To demonstrate that by divine advancement he can gradually learn to live by the Eternal Light and not by food.” "


https://exemplore.com/magic/living-without-food-and-water-Breatharianism-is-it-possible
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June 21, 2017
By Abby Langer, R.D.

'Breatharians' Aren't Enlightened—They're Pushing Disordered Eating

This couple says cosmic energy keeps people alive. It doesn't. Food does.
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If you were to believe Akahi Ricardo and Camila Castello, you’d think it were possible to live a healthy life on just a few meals a week. Energy from the universe would, in theory, provide sufficient enough fuel that you wouldn’t need to depend on lowly food and water for survival. The air you breathe would be enough to sustain you.
Ricardo, 36, and Castello, 34, call themselves “breatharians,” claiming they can live happy, healthy lives without food and water. The couple recently discussed their “food-free lifestyle”—a truly baffling oxymoron—with The Sun, saying that since 2008, they supposedly haven’t eaten much more than a piece of fruit or some vegetable broth three times a week.
“Humans can easily be without food—as long as they are connected to the energy that exists in all things and through breathing,” Castello told the paper. This is, obviously, completely false. She continued: “For three years, Akahi and I didn’t eat anything at all, and now we only eat occasionally like if we’re in a social situation or if I simply want to taste a fruit.”
This isn’t the first time breatharianism has been in the news. Back in 1999, a woman in the United Kingdom named Jasmuheen (real name: Ellen Greve) made waves for claiming to live on nothing but fruit, tea, and sunshine. Try not to sprain your eyes while rolling them. Caught red-handed several times with a fridge full of food, she was finally put to the test on 60 Minutes, attempting to go without food for seven days (a doctor kept an eye on her throughout). She lasted about four days and experienced a rapid health decline in the process, yet insisted that the reason why she couldn’t complete the challenge was that pollution interfered with her ability to get nutrients from fresh air. OK, lady, whatever.
Breatharianism would be almost a laughable concept if it weren’t so dangerous. As a registered dietitian, I’m calling BS on these scammers. Here’s why.
First of all, cosmic energy and air don’t supply what our bodies need to function, which is calories and nutrients.
This couple’s beliefs do not eclipse science. In general, people need around 1,400 to 1,600 calories a day just for basic metabolic functioning. You know, to keep your heart beating, lungs breathing, that sort of stuff. That’s outside of calories required for things such as getting over an illness, handling stress, going on that daily Starbucks run, and working. (Speaking of work, Ricardo and Castello, who split their time between California and Ecuador, apparently teach courses on how to be Breatharians. Shocker.)
Food and water really aren’t optional. Although everyone is different, it's never a good idea for an adult to eat fewer than 1,200 calories a day at the absolute minimum. And while it varies based on factors like body weight and the environment a person is in, human beings can only exist around 10 to 14 days without food and water. With water but no food, it’s a bit longer—potentially months—but it really depends on the circumstances.
Unlike this couple, people who are not eating generally aren’t taking pictures of themselves in fields looking all shiny and happy and well-fed.

Someone who has only eaten a little bit three times a week since 2008, as this couple claims to have done, would likely have very little energy and appear gaunt with dull skin and hair. That is, they would seem that way if they were alive in the first place.
That’s the most offensive part of this breatharian couple’s outrageous claims. The amount of food they say they’re eating would put their intake at a near-total starvation level. Think of some people with anorexia and you’ll get an idea of how people really look when their food intake is reduced to almost nothing for a prolonged period of time.
I’m sure everyone behind campaigns to feed hungry children and stop world hunger would be delighted to know “the energy that exists in the universe” is really all the food we need. Oh, wait, it’s not, which is why people tend to die, or at the very least, experience debilitating physical and mental issues if they’re not properly nourished. This leads me to the fact that people have actually died trying to be breatharians, because guess what? We need food to live.
Also, let’s discuss that whole “barely eating during pregnancy” thing, which deserves some special attention.
Castello makes the clueless, rage-inducing claim that she ate five times during her first pregnancy because she “just never felt hungry” and that during her second, she ate “a bit of fruit or vegetable broth.” Somehow, she managed to deliver children who she says (and who appear to be) completely healthy. To say this is doubtful is an understatement.
When someone is pregnant, they need nutrition—in the form of food, not sunlight—to deal with all the intense physical changes. Proper nutrition is optimal for ensuring a healthy pregnancy, and ideally, a healthy baby down the road.
In fact, pregnant women need to eat around 300 extra calories a day, according to the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. If someone can’t take in enough calories during pregnancy due to, let’s say, hyperemesis gravidarum that causes extreme vomiting from hormones, they'll often be admitted to the hospital for intravenous nutrition. It's not absolutely impossible to have healthy children without access to sufficient food during a pregnancy, but it's a hell of a lot harder.
Castello saying she ate so little in her first pregnancy because her son was “nourished by her love” is enough for me (and I’m sure many other people) to consider calling Child Protective Services. But I know it’s really not possible or realistic that she ate this way while pregnant, so I’ll just take a deep breath instead.
Also, the couple says they aren’t forcing their children to follow the boneheaded, dangerous diet they claim to follow themselves. They don’t deserve a medal for that base level of parenting. No matter what these people are doing—actually subsisting in near-starvation or, much more likely, lying about the way they live—they’re setting a really crappy example for their kids.
Acting superior while promoting such ridiculous pseudoscience is not only completely obnoxious, it’s harmful.
There are people out there who might actually believe that these people are living in this manner. There are people with eating disorders or at risk of them who might be triggered by this couple’s absurd proclamations. There are people who actually can’t afford to eat and suffer mightily for it, making Ricardo and Castello’s unchecked, outrageous claims even more insulting. This delusional grab for attention and five minutes of fame is sickening.
It makes no difference what this couple says, because science exists. Science is how I know that these people are eating more than they say they are, all the while trying to convince the world that they're simply existing on a more enlightened plane than everyone else.
The truth is, no matter what you believe, enlightenment doesn’t come from starvation. Grave illness—or, if you're unlucky, even death—does.
If you or someone you know is at risk or experiencing an eating disorder, resources are available through NEDA. You can contact their phone helpline at 1-800-931-2237 or their text crisis line by texting "NEDA" to 741741. You can also visit the Eating Recovery Center online to speak to a clinician.


http://www.self.com/story/breatharians-disordered-eating
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2017-06-28 17:55:58 UTC
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Fact Check Medical

Do Breatharians Survive Without Food or Water?

Claims about "breatharians" resurfaced in June 2017, but once again people purportedly living on light alone did not offer proof that they survive this way.


CLAIM
A Californian and Ecuadorian couple proved it is possible to live on nothing but air.

RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In mid-June 2017, tabloids and similar sources published articles about a couple that purports to survive by eating little to no food. Akahi Ricardo and Camila Castello, the articles said, call themselves “breatharians,” and say they survive on “the universe’s energy,” along with pieces of fruit and vegetable broth eaten 2-3 times per week.

This is not the first time that people have made this claim. A Wikipedia page for the practice perhaps best sums it up in noting that “[t]hough it is common knowledge that biological entities require sustenance to survive, breatharianism continues.” Notably, The Sun and many regurgitators of the piece repeated claims purportedly made by Ricardo and Castello without checking them against very basic science understood across humanity:

Camila and Akahi – who have a five-year-old son and two-year-old daughter together – have survived on little else besides a piece of fruit or vegetable broth just 3 times per week since 2008.

And Camila even practised a Breatharian PREGNANCY – not eating anything during the entire nine months that she carried her first child.

The married couple-of-nine-years claim that their “food-free lifestyle” has improved their health and emotional well-being as well as meaning they can spend money on travelling rather than the weekly shop … Camila explained: “I was completely open to changing my food-free lifestyle when I first became pregnant because my child came first. But I just never felt hungry so I ended up practicing a fully Breatharian pregnancy.

“I didn’t feel the need or desire to eat solid food during the entire nine months and so I only ate 5 times, all of which were in social situations.
Throughout the profile (which was republished across the web with no additional fact checking), the couple alternately claimed to eat occasionally and to describe themselves as “food free.” Whether the couple claimed to eat very little or nothing at all, no apparent verification of their claims was made before pushing the dangerous suggestion one could live without food or water out to large audiences.

Predictably, the practice has indeed proved fatal. Victims in Scotland, Australia, and Switzerland were among individuals who died in an attempt to survive without food or water. A 1999 Guardian article about the deaths quoted an expert on survival medicine:

Experts differ as to the absolute maximum length of time that human life can continue without water, but the broad consensus rests at somewhere between seven and 10 days – though severe dehydration and confusion (due to the build-up of sodium and potassium in the brain) would set in sooner. In the desert, of course, lack of water can kill in a matter of hours.

“It depends on the climate, and how much exercise you’re taking, but if you’re lying in bed you would probably be just about all right for a week,” says Dr Charles Clarke, who specialises in high-altitude survival medicine and has accompanied the climber Chris Bonington on expeditions to Mount Everest. “But towards the end of the first week, you’d become pretty gravely ill. Your blood would become thicker, your kidneys can’t cope; multiple organ failure follows, you get hypothermic and eventually you die.”
Moreover, the couple profiled by The Sun weren’t the first “breatharians” to admit to or be caught eating food while claiming not to eat or drink. Jasmuheen, an ex-business woman and founder of the movement has never proved she doesn’t eat, demonstrates signs of eating, and nutritional experts believe the claim may be a delusion shared among individuals who underestimate their “occasional” eating:

Jasmuheen freely admits to drinking orange juice regularly and occasionally nibbling chocolate biscuits for a “taste sensation”. In the past she has described her diet as including tea with honey and soya milk, chocolate, crisps, soup and the odd piece of fruit. Thoeretically, a diet consisting of those foods in small amounts could represent a calorific intake to which the body could adjust without significant weight loss.

Reporters visiting Jasmuheen’s Brisbane home have been bewildered to find her fridge well-stocked with vegetarian food which, she says, belongs to her partner Jeff Ferguson, a convicted fraudster. And a British journalist accompanying Jasmuheen to her check-in desk at Heathrow last December was astonished when the BA clerk asked her to confirm that she’d ordered an in-flight vegetarian meal. “No, no,” she replied. “Well, yes, OK, I did. But I won’t be eating it.”




Although claims of “breatharians” surviving and thriving pop up every few years, we were unable to find any evidence contradicting the body of science demonstrating humans require water and food to stay alive. It’s possible the couple profiled by The Sun in June 2017 both genuinely made and believed their own claims, but we found no proof the impossible assertion was actually true. When tested, purported breatharians such as Jasmuheen failed to last more than a few days without food and water.



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Published:Jun 16th, 2017


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