Research on Natural Alternatives To Ibuprofen

[Dodgy is as dodgy does]

Research on Natural Alternatives To Ibuprofen
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ibuprofen-kills-more-pain-so-what-alternatives

"Here is some evidence-based research on alternatives to ibuprofen,
sourced from the National Library of Medicine:

Ginger – A 2009 study found that ginger capsules (250 mg, four
times daily) were as effective as the drugs mefenamic acid and
ibuprofen for relieving pain in women associated with their menstrual
cycle (primary dysmenorrhea). [7]
Topical Arnica – A 2007 human study found that topical treatment
with arnica was as effective as ibuprofen for hand osteoarthritis, but
with lower incidence of side effects.[8]
Combination: Astaxanthin, Ginkgo biloba and Vitamin C - A 2011
animal study found this combination to be equal to or better than
ibuprofen for reducing asthma-associated respiratory inflammation.[9]
Chinese Skullcap (baicalin) – A 2003 animal study found that a
compound in Chinese skullcap known as baicalin was equipotent to
ibuprofen in reducing pain.[10]
Omega-3 fatty acids: A 2006 human study found that omega-3 fatty
acids (between 1200-2400 mg daily) were as effective as ibuprofen in
reducing arthritis pain, but with the added benefit of having less
side effects.[11]
Panax Ginseng – A 2008 animal study found that panax ginseng had
analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity similar to ibuprofen,
indicating its possible anti-rheumatoid arthritis properties.[12]
St. John's Wort – A 2004 animal study found that St. John's wort
was twice as effective as ibuprofen as a pain-killer.[13]
Anthrocyanins from Sweet Cherries & Raspberries – A 2001 study
cell study found that anthrocyanins extracted from raspberries and
sweet cherries were as effective as ibuprofen and naproxen at
suppressing the inflammation-associated enzyme known as
cyclooxygenase-1 and 2.[14]
Holy Basil – A 2000 study found that holy basil contains compounds
with anti-inflammatory activity comparable to ibuprofen, naproxen and
aspirin.[15]
Olive Oil (oleocanthal) – a compound found within olive oil known
as oleocanthal has been shown to have anti-inflammatory properties
similar to ibuprofen.[16] "


And so on.
Big pharma says there are no alternatives to "safe and efficacious"
pharmaceutical drugs. However, in this article (above) it shows how
dangerous these petrochemical derived drugs are and how there are
alternatives without the side effects.


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On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 02:45:00 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does

Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Research on Natural Alternatives To Ibuprofen
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ibuprofen-kills-more-pain-so-what-alternatives
"Here is some evidence-based research on alternatives to ibuprofen,
Ginger – A 2009 study found that ginger capsules (250 mg, four
times daily) were as effective as the drugs mefenamic acid and
ibuprofen for relieving pain in women associated with their menstrual
cycle (primary dysmenorrhea). [7]
Topical Arnica – A 2007 human study found that topical treatment
with arnica was as effective as ibuprofen for hand osteoarthritis, but
with lower incidence of side effects.[8]
Combination: Astaxanthin, Ginkgo biloba and Vitamin C - A 2011
animal study found this combination to be equal to or better than
ibuprofen for reducing asthma-associated respiratory inflammation.[9]
Chinese Skullcap (baicalin) – A 2003 animal study found that a
compound in Chinese skullcap known as baicalin was equipotent to
ibuprofen in reducing pain.[10]
Omega-3 fatty acids: A 2006 human study found that omega-3 fatty
acids (between 1200-2400 mg daily) were as effective as ibuprofen in
reducing arthritis pain, but with the added benefit of having less
side effects.[11]
Panax Ginseng – A 2008 animal study found that panax ginseng had
analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity similar to ibuprofen,
indicating its possible anti-rheumatoid arthritis properties.[12]
St. John's Wort – A 2004 animal study found that St. John's wort
was twice as effective as ibuprofen as a pain-killer.[13]
Anthrocyanins from Sweet Cherries & Raspberries – A 2001 study
cell study found that anthrocyanins extracted from raspberries and
sweet cherries were as effective as ibuprofen and naproxen at
suppressing the inflammation-associated enzyme known as
cyclooxygenase-1 and 2.[14]
Holy Basil – A 2000 study found that holy basil contains compounds
with anti-inflammatory activity comparable to ibuprofen, naproxen and
aspirin.[15]
Olive Oil (oleocanthal) – a compound found within olive oil known
as oleocanthal has been shown to have anti-inflammatory properties
similar to ibuprofen.[16] "
And so on.
Big pharma says there are no alternatives to "safe and efficacious"
pharmaceutical drugs. However, in this article (above) it shows how
dangerous these petrochemical derived drugs are and how there are
alternatives without the side effects.

None of that stuff works strongly enough to remedy acute condisions.

Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

[&]

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On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 02:45:00 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does

Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Research on Natural Alternatives To Ibuprofen
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ibuprofen-kills-more-pain-so-what-alternatives
"Here is some evidence-based research on alternatives to ibuprofen,
Ginger – A 2009 study found that ginger capsules (250 mg, four
times daily) were as effective as the drugs mefenamic acid and
ibuprofen for relieving pain in women associated with their menstrual
cycle (primary dysmenorrhea). [7]
Topical Arnica – A 2007 human study found that topical treatment
with arnica was as effective as ibuprofen for hand osteoarthritis, but
with lower incidence of side effects.[8]
Combination: Astaxanthin, Ginkgo biloba and Vitamin C - A 2011
animal study found this combination to be equal to or better than
ibuprofen for reducing asthma-associated respiratory inflammation.[9]
Chinese Skullcap (baicalin) – A 2003 animal study found that a
compound in Chinese skullcap known as baicalin was equipotent to
ibuprofen in reducing pain.[10]
Omega-3 fatty acids: A 2006 human study found that omega-3 fatty
acids (between 1200-2400 mg daily) were as effective as ibuprofen in
reducing arthritis pain, but with the added benefit of having less
side effects.[11]
Panax Ginseng – A 2008 animal study found that panax ginseng had
analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity similar to ibuprofen,
indicating its possible anti-rheumatoid arthritis properties.[12]
St. John's Wort – A 2004 animal study found that St. John's wort
was twice as effective as ibuprofen as a pain-killer.[13]
Anthrocyanins from Sweet Cherries & Raspberries – A 2001 study
cell study found that anthrocyanins extracted from raspberries and
sweet cherries were as effective as ibuprofen and naproxen at
suppressing the inflammation-associated enzyme known as
cyclooxygenase-1 and 2.[14]
Holy Basil – A 2000 study found that holy basil contains compounds
with anti-inflammatory activity comparable to ibuprofen, naproxen and
aspirin.[15]
Olive Oil (oleocanthal) – a compound found within olive oil known
as oleocanthal has been shown to have anti-inflammatory properties
similar to ibuprofen.[16] "
And so on.
Big pharma says there are no alternatives to "safe and efficacious"
pharmaceutical drugs. However, in this article (above) it shows how
dangerous these petrochemical derived drugs are and how there are
alternatives without the side effects.

None of that stuff works strongly enough to remedy acute condisions.

conditions

Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

[Enquiring minds want to know]

Post by &

Post by &
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 02:45:00 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does

Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Research on Natural Alternatives To Ibuprofen
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ibuprofen-kills-more-pain-so-what-alternatives
"Here is some evidence-based research on alternatives to ibuprofen,
Ginger – A 2009 study found that ginger capsules (250 mg, four
times daily) were as effective as the drugs mefenamic acid and
ibuprofen for relieving pain in women associated with their menstrual
cycle (primary dysmenorrhea). [7]
Topical Arnica – A 2007 human study found that topical treatment
with arnica was as effective as ibuprofen for hand osteoarthritis, but
with lower incidence of side effects.[8]
Combination: Astaxanthin, Ginkgo biloba and Vitamin C - A 2011
animal study found this combination to be equal to or better than
ibuprofen for reducing asthma-associated respiratory inflammation.[9]
Chinese Skullcap (baicalin) – A 2003 animal study found that a
compound in Chinese skullcap known as baicalin was equipotent to
ibuprofen in reducing pain.[10]
Omega-3 fatty acids: A 2006 human study found that omega-3 fatty
acids (between 1200-2400 mg daily) were as effective as ibuprofen in
reducing arthritis pain, but with the added benefit of having less
side effects.[11]
Panax Ginseng – A 2008 animal study found that panax ginseng had
analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity similar to ibuprofen,
indicating its possible anti-rheumatoid arthritis properties.[12]
St. John's Wort – A 2004 animal study found that St. John's wort
was twice as effective as ibuprofen as a pain-killer.[13]
Anthrocyanins from Sweet Cherries & Raspberries – A 2001 study
cell study found that anthrocyanins extracted from raspberries and
sweet cherries were as effective as ibuprofen and naproxen at
suppressing the inflammation-associated enzyme known as
cyclooxygenase-1 and 2.[14]
Holy Basil – A 2000 study found that holy basil contains compounds
with anti-inflammatory activity comparable to ibuprofen, naproxen and
aspirin.[15]
Olive Oil (oleocanthal) – a compound found within olive oil known
as oleocanthal has been shown to have anti-inflammatory properties
similar to ibuprofen.[16] "
And so on.
Big pharma says there are no alternatives to "safe and efficacious"
pharmaceutical drugs. However, in this article (above) it shows how
dangerous these petrochemical derived drugs are and how there are
alternatives without the side effects.

None of that stuff works strongly enough to remedy acute condisions.

conditions

Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.

Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?


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http://www.pharmamyths.net/files/JLME_ARTICLE_2013.pdf

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Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.
Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?

Letting someone die who comes to the Emergency Room, suffering
from a stroke, is unacceptable in mainstream medicine.

But then, this ng already knows what you're about.

People recover from strokes and go on to live meaningful lives.
It wouldn't be possible without pharmaceutical products.

[Enquiring minds want to know]

Post by &
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:24:49 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.
Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?

Letting someone die who comes to the Emergency Room, suffering
from a stroke, is unacceptable in mainstream medicine.

Why don't you explain what the procedure is and what drugs are used
and what for?

Post by &
But then, this ng already knows what you're about.
People recover from strokes and go on to live meaningful lives.
It wouldn't be possible without pharmaceutical products.

But when there is part of the brain blocked by a blood clot, doesn't
that part of the brain die?

Please answer the question.


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The pharmaceutical industry is based on myths and lies
http://www.pharmamyths.net/

Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://www.pharmamyths.net/files/JLME_ARTICLE_2013.pdf

Big Pharma Pockets $711 Billion in Profits by Price-Gouging Taxpayers
and Seniors
http://healthcareforamericanow.org/2013/04/08/pharma-711-billion-profits-price-gouging-seniors/

Pharmaceutical Companies Spent 19 Times More On Self-Promotion Than
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/pharmaceutical-companies-marketing_n_1760380.html

[Mo Onions]

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:24:49 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.
Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?

Letting someone die who comes to the Emergency Room, suffering
from a stroke, is unacceptable in mainstream medicine.

Why don't you explain what the procedure is and what drugs are used
and what for?

Why don't you get a book about strokes from your local library and do
your own homework.

Or better, make an appointment to sit with a stroke specialist at your
local health care system. As an English major and budding journalist
dedicated to accuracy in reporting, interview him for a blog entry.

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
But then, this ng already knows what you're about.
People recover from strokes and go on to live meaningful lives. It
wouldn't be possible without pharmaceutical products.

But when there is part of the brain blocked by a blood clot, doesn't
that part of the brain die?
Please answer the question.

See my earlier suggestion about doing your own homework.

Let's see how you do with it, without succumbing to your
pre-fabricated agenda. ;-)

[Bob Officer]

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:24:49 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.
Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?

Letting someone die who comes to the Emergency Room, suffering
from a stroke, is unacceptable in mainstream medicine.

Why don't you explain what the procedure is and what drugs are used
and what for?

Post by &
But then, this ng already knows what you're about.
People recover from strokes and go on to live meaningful lives.
It wouldn't be possible without pharmaceutical products.

But when there is part of the brain blocked by a blood clot, doesn't
that part of the brain die?

No necessarily, with quick treatment the problem of cellar death can be
mitigated. The are blood thinners and clot dissolvers which can be
employed, there is a certain small amount of flow around the blockage in
some cases. Each case is different. It depends on the where the loss of
blood flow takes place, and type and reason the loss of blood flow.

Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Please answer the question.

In some types of injury the placement of a shut can remove the pressure and
restore blood flow59 effected areas.

[Lu]

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:24:49 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.
Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?

Letting someone die who comes to the Emergency Room, suffering
from a stroke, is unacceptable in mainstream medicine.

Why don't you explain what the procedure is and what drugs are used
and what for?

Post by &
But then, this ng already knows what you're about.
People recover from strokes and go on to live meaningful lives.
It wouldn't be possible without pharmaceutical products.

I am living proof of that.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But when there is part of the brain blocked by a blood clot, doesn't
that part of the brain die?

No necessarily, with quick treatment the problem of cellar death can be
mitigated. The are blood thinners and clot dissolvers which can be
employed, there is a certain small amount of flow around the blockage in
some cases. Each case is different. It depends on the where the loss of
blood flow takes place, and type and reason the loss of blood flow.

Aspirin.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Please answer the question.

In some types of injury the placement of a shut can remove the pressure and
restore blood flow59 effected areas.

[Mo Onions]

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:24:49 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.
Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?

Letting someone die who comes to the Emergency Room, suffering
from a stroke, is unacceptable in mainstream medicine.

Why don't you explain what the procedure is and what drugs are used
and what for?

Post by &
But then, this ng already knows what you're about.
People recover from strokes and go on to live meaningful lives.
It wouldn't be possible without pharmaceutical products.

But when there is part of the brain blocked by a blood clot, doesn't
that part of the brain die?

No necessarily, with quick treatment the problem of cellar death can be
mitigated. The are blood thinners and clot dissolvers which can be
employed, there is a certain small amount of flow around the blockage in
some cases. Each case is different. It depends on the where the loss of
blood flow takes place, and type and reason the loss of blood flow.

It won't happen with "alternative medicines" like "a little baking soda
in water" or "calcium tablets."

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Please answer the question.

In some types of injury the placement of a shut can remove the
pressure and restore blood flow59 effected areas.

She's too busy with her agenda (contra evidence-based medicine and/or
pharmaceutical products) to do her own homework.

Or just too lazy to have learned about strokes via reading at
her local public library.

They do have public libraries in Oz, don't they?

[Bob Officer]

Post by Mo Onions

Post by Bob Officer

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Post by &
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:24:49 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.
Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?

Letting someone die who comes to the Emergency Room, suffering
from a stroke, is unacceptable in mainstream medicine.

Why don't you explain what the procedure is and what drugs are used
and what for?

Post by &
But then, this ng already knows what you're about.
People recover from strokes and go on to live meaningful lives.
It wouldn't be possible without pharmaceutical products.

But when there is part of the brain blocked by a blood clot, doesn't
that part of the brain die?

No necessarily, with quick treatment the problem of cellar death can be
mitigated. The are blood thinners and clot dissolvers which can be
employed, there is a certain small amount of flow around the blockage in
some cases. Each case is different. It depends on the where the loss of
blood flow takes place, and type and reason the loss of blood flow.

It won't happen with "alternative medicines" like "a little baking soda
in water" or "calcium tablets."

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Please answer the question.

In some types of injury the placement of a shut can remove the
pressure and restore blood flow59 effected areas.

She's too busy with her agenda (contra evidence-based medicine and/or
pharmaceutical products) to do her own homework.
Or just too lazy to have learned about strokes via reading at
her local public library.
They do have public libraries in Oz, don't they?

One would think so.

[Lu]

Post by Mo Onions

Post by Bob Officer

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Post by &
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:24:49 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.
Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?

Letting someone die who comes to the Emergency Room, suffering
from a stroke, is unacceptable in mainstream medicine.

Why don't you explain what the procedure is and what drugs are used
and what for?

Post by &
But then, this ng already knows what you're about.
People recover from strokes and go on to live meaningful lives.
It wouldn't be possible without pharmaceutical products.

But when there is part of the brain blocked by a blood clot, doesn't
that part of the brain die?

No necessarily, with quick treatment the problem of cellar death can be
mitigated. The are blood thinners and clot dissolvers which can be
employed, there is a certain small amount of flow around the blockage in
some cases. Each case is different. It depends on the where the loss of
blood flow takes place, and type and reason the loss of blood flow.

It won't happen with "alternative medicines" like "a little baking soda
in water" or "calcium tablets."

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Please answer the question.

In some types of injury the placement of a shut can remove the
pressure and restore blood flow59 effected areas.

She's too busy with her agenda (contra evidence-based medicine and/or
pharmaceutical products) to do her own homework.
Or just too lazy to have learned about strokes via reading at
her local public library.
They do have public libraries in Oz, don't they?

It would be a lot easier if she would just use Google.

[Mo Onions]

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Post by Bob Officer

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Post by &
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:24:49 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know

Post by Enquiring minds want to know

Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.
Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?

Letting someone die who comes to the Emergency Room, suffering
from a stroke, is unacceptable in mainstream medicine.

Why don't you explain what the procedure is and what drugs are used
and what for?

Post by &
But then, this ng already knows what you're about.
People recover from strokes and go on to live meaningful lives.
It wouldn't be possible without pharmaceutical products.

But when there is part of the brain blocked by a blood clot, doesn't
that part of the brain die?

No necessarily, with quick treatment the problem of cellar death can be
mitigated. The are blood thinners and clot dissolvers which can be
employed, there is a certain small amount of flow around the blockage in
some cases. Each case is different. It depends on the where the loss of
blood flow takes place, and type and reason the loss of blood flow.

It won't happen with "alternative medicines" like "a little baking soda
in water" or "calcium tablets."

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Please answer the question.

In some types of injury the placement of a shut can remove the
pressure and restore blood flow59 effected areas.

She's too busy with her agenda (contra evidence-based medicine and/or
pharmaceutical products) to do her own homework.
Or just too lazy to have learned about strokes via reading at
her local public library.
They do have public libraries in Oz, don't they?

It would be a lot easier if she would just use Google.

I was hoping she'd do it the way it was done before the advent of
Google, as a learning experience.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stroke-for-dummies-john-r-marler/1100554909?ean=9781118069943

http://www.strokesmart.org/5-books

http://oxfordmedicine.com/view/10.1093/med/9780199641208.001.0001/med-9780199641208

[Lu]

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Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.
Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?

Letting someone die who comes to the Emergency Room, suffering
from a stroke, is unacceptable in mainstream medicine.

Why don't you explain what the procedure is and what drugs are used
and what for?

Post by &
But then, this ng already knows what you're about.
People recover from strokes and go on to live meaningful lives.
It wouldn't be possible without pharmaceutical products.

But when there is part of the brain blocked by a blood clot, doesn't
that part of the brain die?

No necessarily, with quick treatment the problem of cellar death can be
mitigated. The are blood thinners and clot dissolvers which can be
employed, there is a certain small amount of flow around the blockage in
some cases. Each case is different. It depends on the where the loss of
blood flow takes place, and type and reason the loss of blood flow.

It won't happen with "alternative medicines" like "a little baking soda
in water" or "calcium tablets."

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Please answer the question.

In some types of injury the placement of a shut can remove the
pressure and restore blood flow59 effected areas.

She's too busy with her agenda (contra evidence-based medicine and/or
pharmaceutical products) to do her own homework.
Or just too lazy to have learned about strokes via reading at
her local public library.
They do have public libraries in Oz, don't they?

It would be a lot easier if she would just use Google.

I was hoping she'd do it the way it was done before the advent of
Google, as a learning experience.

She uses Google now. That is where she finds her crappy experts.

Post by Mo Onions
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stroke-for-dummies-john-r-marler/1100554909?ea
n=9781118069943
http://www.strokesmart.org/5-books
http://oxfordmedicine.com/view/10.1093/med/9780199641208.001.0001/med-97801996
41208

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Post by &
Where's the alt med remedy for a stroke?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stroke is where a blood clot blocks off
a portion of the brain and that piece of brain dies. Same as a heart
attack but in a different organ.
Why would there be a remedy for dead brain?

Letting someone die who comes to the Emergency Room, suffering
from a stroke, is unacceptable in mainstream medicine.

Why don't you explain what the procedure is and what drugs are used
and what for?

Post by &
But then, this ng already knows what you're about.
People recover from strokes and go on to live meaningful lives.
It wouldn't be possible without pharmaceutical products.

But when there is part of the brain blocked by a blood clot, doesn't
that part of the brain die?

No necessarily, with quick treatment the problem of cellar death can be
mitigated. The are blood thinners and clot dissolvers which can be
employed, there is a certain small amount of flow around the blockage in
some cases. Each case is different. It depends on the where the loss of
blood flow takes place, and type and reason the loss of blood flow.

It won't happen with "alternative medicines" like "a little baking soda
in water" or "calcium tablets."

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Please answer the question.

In some types of injury the placement of a shut can remove the
pressure and restore blood flow59 effected areas.

She's too busy with her agenda (contra evidence-based medicine and/or
pharmaceutical products) to do her own homework.
Or just too lazy to have learned about strokes via reading at
her local public library.
They do have public libraries in Oz, don't they?

It would be a lot easier if she would just use Google.

I was hoping she'd do it the way it was done before the advent of
Google, as a learning experience.

She uses Google now. That is where she finds her crappy experts.

Good old google university! Where if enough people agree with the absurd
it certainly must be true in the face of all evidence to the contrary.
Kaye

[Lu]

Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Research on Natural Alternatives To Ibuprofen
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ibuprofen-kills-more-pain-so-what-alternative
s
"Here is some evidence-based research on alternatives to ibuprofen,
Ginger – A 2009 study found that ginger capsules (250 mg, four
times daily) were as effective as the drugs mefenamic acid and
ibuprofen for relieving pain in women associated with their menstrual
cycle (primary dysmenorrhea). [7]
Topical Arnica – A 2007 human study found that topical treatment
with arnica was as effective as ibuprofen for hand osteoarthritis, but
with lower incidence of side effects.[8]
Combination: Astaxanthin, Ginkgo biloba and Vitamin C - A 2011
animal study found this combination to be equal to or better than
ibuprofen for reducing asthma-associated respiratory inflammation.[9]
Chinese Skullcap (baicalin) – A 2003 animal study found that a
compound in Chinese skullcap known as baicalin was equipotent to
ibuprofen in reducing pain.[10]
Omega-3 fatty acids: A 2006 human study found that omega-3 fatty
acids (between 1200-2400 mg daily) were as effective as ibuprofen in
reducing arthritis pain, but with the added benefit of having less
side effects.[11]
Panax Ginseng – A 2008 animal study found that panax ginseng had
analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity similar to ibuprofen,
indicating its possible anti-rheumatoid arthritis properties.[12]
St. John's Wort – A 2004 animal study found that St. John's wort
was twice as effective as ibuprofen as a pain-killer.[13]
Anthrocyanins from Sweet Cherries & Raspberries – A 2001 study
cell study found that anthrocyanins extracted from raspberries and
sweet cherries were as effective as ibuprofen and naproxen at
suppressing the inflammation-associated enzyme known as
cyclooxygenase-1 and 2.[14]
Holy Basil – A 2000 study found that holy basil contains compounds
with anti-inflammatory activity comparable to ibuprofen, naproxen and
aspirin.[15]
Olive Oil (oleocanthal) – a compound found within olive oil known
as oleocanthal has been shown to have anti-inflammatory properties
similar to ibuprofen.[16] "
And so on.
Big pharma says there are no alternatives to "safe and efficacious"
pharmaceutical drugs. However, in this article (above) it shows how
dangerous these petrochemical derived drugs are and how there are
alternatives without the side effects.

You keep telling us that our medical problems can be cure with a proper diet.
Then you come up with so called Natural Remedies that are not strictly diet.
I thought you would enjoy this. And no, I do not recommend or vouch for
anything written in this article.

https://www.mommypotamus.com/natural-remedies/

[Lu]

Post by Lu

Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Research on Natural Alternatives To Ibuprofen
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ibuprofen-kills-more-pain-so-what-alternati
ve
s
"Here is some evidence-based research on alternatives to ibuprofen,
Ginger – A 2009 study found that ginger capsules (250 mg, four
times daily) were as effective as the drugs mefenamic acid and
ibuprofen for relieving pain in women associated with their menstrual
cycle (primary dysmenorrhea). [7]
Topical Arnica – A 2007 human study found that topical treatment
with arnica was as effective as ibuprofen for hand osteoarthritis, but
with lower incidence of side effects.[8]
Combination: Astaxanthin, Ginkgo biloba and Vitamin C - A 2011
animal study found this combination to be equal to or better than
ibuprofen for reducing asthma-associated respiratory inflammation.[9]
Chinese Skullcap (baicalin) – A 2003 animal study found that a
compound in Chinese skullcap known as baicalin was equipotent to
ibuprofen in reducing pain.[10]
Omega-3 fatty acids: A 2006 human study found that omega-3 fatty
acids (between 1200-2400 mg daily) were as effective as ibuprofen in
reducing arthritis pain, but with the added benefit of having less
side effects.[11]
Panax Ginseng – A 2008 animal study found that panax ginseng had
analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity similar to ibuprofen,
indicating its possible anti-rheumatoid arthritis properties.[12]
St. John's Wort – A 2004 animal study found that St. John's wort
was twice as effective as ibuprofen as a pain-killer.[13]
Anthrocyanins from Sweet Cherries & Raspberries – A 2001 study
cell study found that anthrocyanins extracted from raspberries and
sweet cherries were as effective as ibuprofen and naproxen at
suppressing the inflammation-associated enzyme known as
cyclooxygenase-1 and 2.[14]
Holy Basil – A 2000 study found that holy basil contains compounds
with anti-inflammatory activity comparable to ibuprofen, naproxen and
aspirin.[15]
Olive Oil (oleocanthal) – a compound found within olive oil known
as oleocanthal has been shown to have anti-inflammatory properties
similar to ibuprofen.[16] "
And so on.
Big pharma says there are no alternatives to "safe and efficacious"
pharmaceutical drugs. However, in this article (above) it shows how
dangerous these petrochemical derived drugs are and how there are
alternatives without the side effects.

You keep telling us that our medical problems can be cure with a proper diet.
Then you come up with so called Natural Remedies that are not strictly diet.
I thought you would enjoy this. And no, I do not recommend or vouch for
anything written in this article.
https://www.mommypotamus.com/natural-remedies/

I forgot to mention that this website seems to be selling books.

[Bob Officer]

Post by Lu

Post by Lu

Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Research on Natural Alternatives To Ibuprofen
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ibuprofen-kills-more-pain-so-what-alternati
ve
s
"Here is some evidence-based research on alternatives to ibuprofen,
Ginger – A 2009 study found that ginger capsules (250 mg, four
times daily) were as effective as the drugs mefenamic acid and
ibuprofen for relieving pain in women associated with their menstrual
cycle (primary dysmenorrhea). [7]
Topical Arnica – A 2007 human study found that topical treatment
with arnica was as effective as ibuprofen for hand osteoarthritis, but
with lower incidence of side effects.[8]
Combination: Astaxanthin, Ginkgo biloba and Vitamin C - A 2011
animal study found this combination to be equal to or better than
ibuprofen for reducing asthma-associated respiratory inflammation.[9]
Chinese Skullcap (baicalin) – A 2003 animal study found that a
compound in Chinese skullcap known as baicalin was equipotent to
ibuprofen in reducing pain.[10]
Omega-3 fatty acids: A 2006 human study found that omega-3 fatty
acids (between 1200-2400 mg daily) were as effective as ibuprofen in
reducing arthritis pain, but with the added benefit of having less
side effects.[11]
Panax Ginseng – A 2008 animal study found that panax ginseng had
analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity similar to ibuprofen,
indicating its possible anti-rheumatoid arthritis properties.[12]
St. John's Wort – A 2004 animal study found that St. John's wort
was twice as effective as ibuprofen as a pain-killer.[13]
Anthrocyanins from Sweet Cherries & Raspberries – A 2001 study
cell study found that anthrocyanins extracted from raspberries and
sweet cherries were as effective as ibuprofen and naproxen at
suppressing the inflammation-associated enzyme known as
cyclooxygenase-1 and 2.[14]
Holy Basil – A 2000 study found that holy basil contains compounds
with anti-inflammatory activity comparable to ibuprofen, naproxen and
aspirin.[15]
Olive Oil (oleocanthal) – a compound found within olive oil known
as oleocanthal has been shown to have anti-inflammatory properties
similar to ibuprofen.[16] "
And so on.
Big pharma says there are no alternatives to "safe and efficacious"
pharmaceutical drugs. However, in this article (above) it shows how
dangerous these petrochemical derived drugs are and how there are
alternatives without the side effects.

You keep telling us that our medical problems can be cure with a proper diet.
Then you come up with so called Natural Remedies that are not strictly diet.
I thought you would enjoy this. And no, I do not recommend or vouch for
anything written in this article.
https://www.mommypotamus.com/natural-remedies/

I forgot to mention that this website seems to be selling books.

Then when you buy the books find the process of obtaining and processing
these natural cures to the point that dose is high enough to be effective
makes them more expensive than the standard medication and OTCs.

Just because a study finds "X" contains compounds "Y" which is effective as
"Z" in doing something, it does not give dosages or the amount of "X" one
needs to consume to obtain an effective dosage.

So the above study which reports Anthrocyanins extracted from cherries are
as effective "as ibuprofen and naproxen at suppressing the
inflammation-associated enzyme known as cyclooxygenase-1 and 2", it fails
to tell you how many pounds of fruit was used to extract enough of the
Anthrocyanins to have an effective dose. I doubt one could safely eat
enough of the fruit to digest an effective dosage.

The article would like you to believe that just drinking a tea, or eating
something will be an effective treatment because the compound in a study
has shown some degree of effectiveness. The truth is far from what the
article implied.

[Lu]

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Lu

Post by Lu

Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Research on Natural Alternatives To Ibuprofen
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ibuprofen-kills-more-pain-so-what-alterna
ti
ve
s
"Here is some evidence-based research on alternatives to ibuprofen,
Ginger – A 2009 study found that ginger capsules (250 mg, four
times daily) were as effective as the drugs mefenamic acid and
ibuprofen for relieving pain in women associated with their menstrual
cycle (primary dysmenorrhea). [7]
Topical Arnica – A 2007 human study found that topical treatment
with arnica was as effective as ibuprofen for hand osteoarthritis, but
with lower incidence of side effects.[8]
Combination: Astaxanthin, Ginkgo biloba and Vitamin C - A 2011
animal study found this combination to be equal to or better than
ibuprofen for reducing asthma-associated respiratory inflammation.[9]
Chinese Skullcap (baicalin) – A 2003 animal study found that a
compound in Chinese skullcap known as baicalin was equipotent to
ibuprofen in reducing pain.[10]
Omega-3 fatty acids: A 2006 human study found that omega-3 fatty
acids (between 1200-2400 mg daily) were as effective as ibuprofen in
reducing arthritis pain, but with the added benefit of having less
side effects.[11]
Panax Ginseng – A 2008 animal study found that panax ginseng had
analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity similar to ibuprofen,
indicating its possible anti-rheumatoid arthritis properties.[12]
St. John's Wort – A 2004 animal study found that St. John's wort
was twice as effective as ibuprofen as a pain-killer.[13]
Anthrocyanins from Sweet Cherries & Raspberries – A 2001 study
cell study found that anthrocyanins extracted from raspberries and
sweet cherries were as effective as ibuprofen and naproxen at
suppressing the inflammation-associated enzyme known as
cyclooxygenase-1 and 2.[14]
Holy Basil – A 2000 study found that holy basil contains compounds
with anti-inflammatory activity comparable to ibuprofen, naproxen and
aspirin.[15]
Olive Oil (oleocanthal) – a compound found within olive oil known
as oleocanthal has been shown to have anti-inflammatory properties
similar to ibuprofen.[16] "
And so on.
Big pharma says there are no alternatives to "safe and efficacious"
pharmaceutical drugs. However, in this article (above) it shows how
dangerous these petrochemical derived drugs are and how there are
alternatives without the side effects.

You keep telling us that our medical problems can be cure with a proper diet.
Then you come up with so called Natural Remedies that are not strictly diet.
I thought you would enjoy this. And no, I do not recommend or vouch for
anything written in this article.
https://www.mommypotamus.com/natural-remedies/

I forgot to mention that this website seems to be selling books.

Then when you buy the books find the process of obtaining and processing
these natural cures to the point that dose is high enough to be effective
makes them more expensive than the standard medication and OTCs.

I opened a few of her remedies and found them complete with
recipe/instructions and some sensible comments. Of the few I read, I recall
one from the past. My mother sewed together a heavy broadcloth table napkin
into a square packet, filled it with salt and sewed the top closed. When any
one of us had an ear ache or tooth ache she would heat that bag of salt up in
the over and we used it on what ever ached. It was soothing and got us
through a lot.

I found the article kind of interesting.

Post by Bob Officer
Just because a study finds "X" contains compounds "Y" which is effective as
"Z" in doing something, it does not give dosages or the amount of "X" one
needs to consume to obtain an effective dosage.
So the above study which reports Anthrocyanins extracted from cherries are
as effective "as ibuprofen and naproxen at suppressing the
inflammation-associated enzyme known as cyclooxygenase-1 and 2", it fails
to tell you how many pounds of fruit was used to extract enough of the
Anthrocyanins to have an effective dose. I doubt one could safely eat
enough of the fruit to digest an effective dosage.

True. I think you have pointed that out to Carole several time when she
started in on her cell salts.

Post by Bob Officer
The article would like you to believe that just drinking a tea, or eating
something will be an effective treatment because the compound in a study
has shown some degree of effectiveness. The truth is far from what the
article implied.

[Bob Officer]

Post by Lu

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Lu

Post by Lu

Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Research on Natural Alternatives To Ibuprofen
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ibuprofen-kills-more-pain-so-what-alterna
ti
ve
s
"Here is some evidence-based research on alternatives to ibuprofen,
Ginger – A 2009 study found that ginger capsules (250 mg, four
times daily) were as effective as the drugs mefenamic acid and
ibuprofen for relieving pain in women associated with their menstrual
cycle (primary dysmenorrhea). [7]
Topical Arnica – A 2007 human study found that topical treatment
with arnica was as effective as ibuprofen for hand osteoarthritis, but
with lower incidence of side effects.[8]
Combination: Astaxanthin, Ginkgo biloba and Vitamin C - A 2011
animal study found this combination to be equal to or better than
ibuprofen for reducing asthma-associated respiratory inflammation.[9]
Chinese Skullcap (baicalin) – A 2003 animal study found that a
compound in Chinese skullcap known as baicalin was equipotent to
ibuprofen in reducing pain.[10]
Omega-3 fatty acids: A 2006 human study found that omega-3 fatty
acids (between 1200-2400 mg daily) were as effective as ibuprofen in
reducing arthritis pain, but with the added benefit of having less
side effects.[11]
Panax Ginseng – A 2008 animal study found that panax ginseng had
analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity similar to ibuprofen,
indicating its possible anti-rheumatoid arthritis properties.[12]
St. John's Wort – A 2004 animal study found that St. John's wort
was twice as effective as ibuprofen as a pain-killer.[13]
Anthrocyanins from Sweet Cherries & Raspberries – A 2001 study
cell study found that anthrocyanins extracted from raspberries and
sweet cherries were as effective as ibuprofen and naproxen at
suppressing the inflammation-associated enzyme known as
cyclooxygenase-1 and 2.[14]
Holy Basil – A 2000 study found that holy basil contains compounds
with anti-inflammatory activity comparable to ibuprofen, naproxen and
aspirin.[15]
Olive Oil (oleocanthal) – a compound found within olive oil known
as oleocanthal has been shown to have anti-inflammatory properties
similar to ibuprofen.[16] "
And so on.
Big pharma says there are no alternatives to "safe and efficacious"
pharmaceutical drugs. However, in this article (above) it shows how
dangerous these petrochemical derived drugs are and how there are
alternatives without the side effects.

You keep telling us that our medical problems can be cure with a proper diet.
Then you come up with so called Natural Remedies that are not strictly diet.
I thought you would enjoy this. And no, I do not recommend or vouch for
anything written in this article.
https://www.mommypotamus.com/natural-remedies/

I forgot to mention that this website seems to be selling books.

Then when you buy the books find the process of obtaining and processing
these natural cures to the point that dose is high enough to be effective
makes them more expensive than the standard medication and OTCs.

I opened a few of her remedies and found them complete with
recipe/instructions and some sensible comments. Of the few I read, I recall
one from the past. My mother sewed together a heavy broadcloth table napkin
into a square packet, filled it with salt and sewed the top closed. When any
one of us had an ear ache or tooth ache she would heat that bag of salt up in
the over and we used it on what ever ached. It was soothing and got us
through a lot.

My mom use rice or beans. She grew up in Missouri, Pops family used small
gravel. Recall someone complaining about salt dust.

Post by Lu
I found the article kind of interesting.

Heat packs work well, I have a few of those reusable heat packs. They can
be reset for use by placing the in a pan of boiling water.

Post by Lu

Post by Bob Officer
Just because a study finds "X" contains compounds "Y" which is effective as
"Z" in doing something, it does not give dosages or the amount of "X" one
needs to consume to obtain an effective dosage.
So the above study which reports Anthrocyanins extracted from cherries are
as effective "as ibuprofen and naproxen at suppressing the
inflammation-associated enzyme known as cyclooxygenase-1 and 2", it fails
to tell you how many pounds of fruit was used to extract enough of the
Anthrocyanins to have an effective dose. I doubt one could safely eat
enough of the fruit to digest an effective dosage.

True. I think you have pointed that out to Carole several time when she
started in on her cell salts.

Yes. And there is the rub.

Post by Lu

Post by Bob Officer
The article would like you to believe that just drinking a tea, or eating
something will be an effective treatment because the compound in a study
has shown some degree of effectiveness. The truth is far from what the
article implied.

I just pointed out to an medical fraud his radioactive beads are a scam. He
was bragging about sell 1000's sets of them. The amount of radiation they
emit is less than the natural background radiation. It work just like the
"power bands" did and sooner or later he will end up like the two brothers
which sold the bands. Broke.

[Lu]

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Lu

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Lu

Post by Lu

Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Research on Natural Alternatives To Ibuprofen
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ibuprofen-kills-more-pain-so-what-alter
na
ti
ve
s
"Here is some evidence-based research on alternatives to ibuprofen,
Ginger – A 2009 study found that ginger capsules (250 mg, four
times daily) were as effective as the drugs mefenamic acid and
ibuprofen for relieving pain in women associated with their menstrual
cycle (primary dysmenorrhea). [7]
Topical Arnica – A 2007 human study found that topical treatment
with arnica was as effective as ibuprofen for hand osteoarthritis, but
with lower incidence of side effects.[8]
Combination: Astaxanthin, Ginkgo biloba and Vitamin C - A 2011
animal study found this combination to be equal to or better than
ibuprofen for reducing asthma-associated respiratory inflammation.[9]
Chinese Skullcap (baicalin) – A 2003 animal study found that a
compound in Chinese skullcap known as baicalin was equipotent to
ibuprofen in reducing pain.[10]
Omega-3 fatty acids: A 2006 human study found that omega-3 fatty
acids (between 1200-2400 mg daily) were as effective as ibuprofen in
reducing arthritis pain, but with the added benefit of having less
side effects.[11]
Panax Ginseng – A 2008 animal study found that panax ginseng had
analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity similar to ibuprofen,
indicating its possible anti-rheumatoid arthritis properties.[12]
St. John's Wort – A 2004 animal study found that St. John's wort
was twice as effective as ibuprofen as a pain-killer.[13]
Anthrocyanins from Sweet Cherries & Raspberries – A 2001 study
cell study found that anthrocyanins extracted from raspberries and
sweet cherries were as effective as ibuprofen and naproxen at
suppressing the inflammation-associated enzyme known as
cyclooxygenase-1 and 2.[14]
Holy Basil – A 2000 study found that holy basil contains compounds
with anti-inflammatory activity comparable to ibuprofen, naproxen and
aspirin.[15]
Olive Oil (oleocanthal) – a compound found within olive oil known
as oleocanthal has been shown to have anti-inflammatory properties
similar to ibuprofen.[16] "
And so on.
Big pharma says there are no alternatives to "safe and efficacious"
pharmaceutical drugs. However, in this article (above) it shows how
dangerous these petrochemical derived drugs are and how there are
alternatives without the side effects.

You keep telling us that our medical problems can be cure with a proper
diet.
Then you come up with so called Natural Remedies that are not strictly
diet.
I thought you would enjoy this. And no, I do not recommend or vouch for
anything written in this article.
https://www.mommypotamus.com/natural-remedies/

I forgot to mention that this website seems to be selling books.

Then when you buy the books find the process of obtaining and processing
these natural cures to the point that dose is high enough to be effective
makes them more expensive than the standard medication and OTCs.

I opened a few of her remedies and found them complete with
recipe/instructions and some sensible comments. Of the few I read, I recall
one from the past. My mother sewed together a heavy broadcloth table napkin
into a square packet, filled it with salt and sewed the top closed. When any
one of us had an ear ache or tooth ache she would heat that bag of salt up in
the over and we used it on what ever ached. It was soothing and got us
through a lot.

My mom use rice or beans. She grew up in Missouri, Pops family used small
gravel. Recall someone complaining about salt dust.

What ever held the heat without burning the skin.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Lu
I found the article kind of interesting.

Heat packs work well, I have a few of those reusable heat packs. They can
be reset for use by placing the in a pan of boiling water.

Funny but those simple, cheap and last forever heat packs are another things
that fell out of use, replaced by more modern and expensive junk. I believe I
used one of those small screw top, cloth covered, rubber bags that I filled
with hot water for my children.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by Lu

Post by Bob Officer
Just because a study finds "X" contains compounds "Y" which is effective as
"Z" in doing something, it does not give dosages or the amount of "X" one
needs to consume to obtain an effective dosage.
So the above study which reports Anthrocyanins extracted from cherries are
as effective "as ibuprofen and naproxen at suppressing the
inflammation-associated enzyme known as cyclooxygenase-1 and 2", it fails
to tell you how many pounds of fruit was used to extract enough of the
Anthrocyanins to have an effective dose. I doubt one could safely eat
enough of the fruit to digest an effective dosage.

True. I think you have pointed that out to Carole several time when she
started in on her cell salts.

Yes. And there is the rub.

Post by Lu

Post by Bob Officer
The article would like you to believe that just drinking a tea, or eating
something will be an effective treatment because the compound in a study
has shown some degree of effectiveness. The truth is far from what the
article implied.

I just pointed out to an medical fraud his radioactive beads are a scam. He
was bragging about sell 1000's sets of them. The amount of radiation they
emit is less than the natural background radiation. It work just like the
"power bands" did and sooner or later he will end up like the two brothers
which sold the bands. Broke.