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Bob Officer
2016-11-29 23:20:09 UTC
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http://d279m997dpfwgl.cloudfront.net/wp/2016/11/Resource-False-Misleading-Clickbait-y-and-Satirical-%E2%80%9CNews%E2%80%9D-Sources-1.pdf

Or

https://goo.gl/dbrZOk

If you take a look you will find Zero Hedge as well as Natural News and
many of the other sources Carole seems to drink the collard from on a
regular basis.

This document was created by a teacher to help her students understand how
the media can trap unsuspecting people.

Too many people grew up with a trust in the news services at the time. With
the internet age, they need to become far more skeptical and untrusting.

With blogs one can blog just about anything and get by with it.
With photoshop a picture can be totally fake and become an instance media
hit, passed and shared by thousands of overly trusting people.

One last time everything on Facebook, utube, a blog or news site, or the
internet in general is not always true.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity

Lu
2016-11-30 15:51:44 UTC
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 18:20:09 -0500, Bob Officer wrote
(in article <***@news.alt.net>):
http://d279m997dpfwgl.cloudfront.net/wp/2016/11/Resource-False-Misleading-
Clic
Post by Bob Officer
kbait-y-and-Satirical-%E2%80%9CNews%E2%80%9D-Sources-1.pdf
thanks

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Lu

When deciding on medical treatment, we must weigh the risks involved. Among
those risks are a *90% chance of survival and a healthier future, all with or
without the aid of maintenance drugs, *a 10% chance of dying from a medical
accident and *0% chance of a healthy outcome without treatment or using
alternative remedies which is the same as no treatment.



In deciding to use a medicine, or maintenance drug, the risks of taking the
medicine must be weighed against the good it will do. This is a decision you
and your doctor will make.
Anon
2016-12-01 13:53:53 UTC
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 23:20:09 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
http://d279m997dpfwgl.cloudfront.net/wp/2016/11/Resource-False-Misleading-Clickbait-y-and-Satirical-%E2%80%9CNews%E2%80%9D-Sources-1.pdf
Or
https://goo.gl/dbrZOk
If you take a look you will find Zero Hedge as well as Natural News and
many of the other sources Carole seems to drink the collard from on a
regular basis.
This document was created by a teacher to help her students understand how
the media can trap unsuspecting people.
Too many people grew up with a trust in the news services at the time. With
the internet age, they need to become far more skeptical and untrusting.
With blogs one can blog just about anything and get by with it.
With photoshop a picture can be totally fake and become an instance media
hit, passed and shared by thousands of overly trusting people.
One last time everything on Facebook, utube, a blog or news site, or the
internet in general is not always true.
We know the US government uses fake news -- the dossier that said
Saddam had WMD. The censored reported on 911.
The US government has been at it for a long time creating fake news,
propaganda, cover stories and spin.

--
Anonymous

"George Orwell understood the whistleblower’s dilemma well when he
said: “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will
hate those that speak it.” And that is where the concept of cognitive
dissonance comes in, being willfully blind or ignorant when being
confronted by new truths."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-dangerous-drugs-and-drug-insured-patients/5485012

Upton Sinclair once said: "It is difficult to get a man to understand
something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-and-the-money-making-business-of-medicine/5485017?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles
Propaganda - nobody does it better than America
http://tinyurl.com/d5xqmra
"Over the years, I have had the privilege of meeting and having
discussions with people who came to America from countries known for
their adherence to totalitarianism: China, Russia, and former east
European satellites of the Soviet Union. When we discussed how the
state managed to control public opinion under totalitarianism, these
people would usually produce a weary, knowledgeable, cynical smile and
point out that propaganda in those countries was really done quite
incompetently.
If you really want to know propaganda, they said, you need to study
American propaganda technique. According to them, it is, undeniably,
the best in the world."

"The expatriates explained that bad propaganda uses obvious
terminology that anyone can see through. ...American propaganda,
however, is much cleverer. American propaganda, they patiently
explained, relies entirely on emotional appeals. It doesn’t depend on
a rational theory that can be disproved: it appeals to things no one
can object to."

Big Pharma Big Money : Documentary on the Money and Corruption of Big
Pharmaceutical Companies

2.50.55


"I saw hundreds of patients in my practice who were totally unaware
that their drug could cause permanent tardive dyskinesia, dementia,
brain damage, permanent drug-induced disabilities, temporary or
permanent sexual dysfunction, akathisia, violence, aggression,
homicidality, suicidality, Parkinsonism, depression, mania, psychotic
reactions, atrophy (shrinkage) of the brain, diabetes, obesity,
insomnia, hyperlipidemia, loss of IQ points, loss of memory, etc, etc,
all of which they or their physicians could have read about in the
pharmacy’s prescription handouts or in the PDR (Physician’s Desk
Reference).
http://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-and-the-money-making-business-of-medicine/5485017?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles


http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/29/feel-good-hoax-how-us-propaganda-works-in-the-syrian-war/
"‘Feel Good Hoax’: How US Propaganda Works in the Syrian War
September 29, 2016 By 21wire 1 Comment

21st Century Wire says…

One thing is certain about the War on Syria: the propaganda war being
waged by the west and all of its agencies, from government to
corporate media, to charities and third sector NGOs – is much larger
and more pernicious than anything seen in modern history."
Clay
2016-12-02 03:39:42 UTC
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Post by Anon
We know the US government uses fake news -- the dossier that said
Saddam had WMD.
Their guess turned out wrong. Bid deal.
Saddam needed to be removed anyway.
Post by Anon
The censored reported on 911.
Somethings are intentionally redacted to protect national security.
Or in your naivette, you're familiar with what that means.
Indeed, you tell those who can harm you everything about yourself.
Post by Anon
The US government has been at it for a long time creating fake news,
propaganda, cover stories and spin.
They don't have a crystal ball that can look into the future.
Bob Officer
2016-12-02 16:35:01 UTC
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Post by Clay
Post by Anon
We know the US government uses fake news -- the dossier that said
Saddam had WMD.
He did have at one time WDMs. The US as well as well as other national
governments had sold him WDMs in the past. He had actually use WMD on the
Kurds. He had dozens of the pieces of equipment including the parts for a
centrifuge needed to process bomb grade uranium.
Post by Clay
Their guess turned out wrong. Bid deal.
Saddam needed to be removed anyway.
Post by Anon
The censored reported on 911.
Somethings are intentionally redacted to protect national security.
Or in your naivette, you're familiar with what that means.
Indeed, you tell those who can harm you everything about yourself.
Not to be a nit picker, but what is a "censored reporter"? Who is it?

I think Carole is just too stupid to understand what she reads.
Post by Clay
Post by Anon
The US government has been at it for a long time creating fake news,
propaganda, cover stories and spin.
They don't have a crystal ball that can look into the future.
No they don't.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Fred's brain fungus
2016-12-03 12:58:18 UTC
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On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 16:35:01 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Clay
Post by Anon
We know the US government uses fake news -- the dossier that said
Saddam had WMD.
He did have at one time WDMs. The US as well as well as other national
governments had sold him WDMs in the past. He had actually use WMD on the
Kurds. He had dozens of the pieces of equipment including the parts for a
centrifuge needed to process bomb grade uranium.
"at one time", long in the past.
WMD was used as a pretext for invasion.
The intelligence was cherry-picked to support a case for invasion.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Clay
Their guess turned out wrong. Bid deal.
Saddam needed to be removed anyway.
Post by Anon
The censored reported on 911.
Somethings are intentionally redacted to protect national security.
Or in your naivette, you're familiar with what that means.
Indeed, you tell those who can harm you everything about yourself.
Not to be a nit picker, but what is a "censored reporter"? Who is it?
Censored report.
The report on 911 incident was censored, just like so many reports of
royal commissions and so on. they have predetermined outcomes and
leave out important information in order to keep the public ignorant
on what really happened. Just like the mainstream media which supports
the globalist agenda, these reports are often missing vital
information and are not geared to find the truth, just to cover it up.
Post by Bob Officer
I think Carole is just too stupid to understand what she reads.
Post by Clay
Post by Anon
The US government has been at it for a long time creating fake news,
propaganda, cover stories and spin.
They don't have a crystal ball that can look into the future.
The US government knows what it is doing but makes out it is stupid
and prone to errors ("anybody can make a mistake -- boo hoo").
The US government is paid a lot of money and is supposed to be working
for the people, not globalist agenda. However, this is not the way it
works in reality.
Post by Bob Officer
No they don't.
Don't what?



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Fred's brain fungus
Brought to you by big pharma, where only the best propaganda will do

Attacking any remedies that can't be patented on behalf of big pharma

The war is on and the frontline's your brain.

Collusion Between Pharmaceutical Industry and Government Deepens
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/08/02/merck-flu-vaccine-conflicts.aspx

"The Drug Industry - commonly called Big Pharma, has no ethical
restrictions. The death, or damage, of millions of humans is of no
concern to them until that information about that damage and death
becomes public. They have been caught too many times to deny it. That
damage and death is, to them, just part of doing business. There has
never been a time when a Big Pharma drug lord has seen the inside of a
prison cell, much less been put on trial, and condemned to death for
what they did, like what happened to a former Chinese FDA leader. So,
there are NO ETHICAL INCENTIVES. - See more at:
http://www.bolenreport.com/autism/antivaccine%20yes.htm#sthash.W7pQ3K4E.dpuf

Unfortunately it is very profitable for the drug industry to get the
medical profession to promote vaccines to the general population. Drug
companies are corporations and they do not have a duty to “do no
harm”. Their only duty is to make money and “mitigate” any liability
the company might be forced to deal with in a court of law. And since
the Supreme Court decision in 2011, Bruecewitz versus Wyeth, they have
been exempted from all liability regarding their vaccine products. It
is important the public doesn’t forget this as it is very unlikely
your physician or anyone who works for public health will remind you
of this reality.
http://anticorruptionsociety.com/2015/03/02/cdc-who-and-big-pharma-a-network-of-corruption/


Of Course I'm Anti-Vaccine...
I Have a Brain.
I don't care one bit about the fact that 102 people across the country
have measles. I do care, very much, however, that one in sixty-eight
children in America are now Autistic (vaccine damaged). I care even
more that one in six children in America are neurologically damaged. -
See more at:
http://www.bolenreport.com/autism/antivaccine%20yes.htm#sthash.W7pQ3K4E.dpuf
Stack
2016-12-03 15:08:35 UTC
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Post by Fred's brain fungus
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 16:35:01 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
He did have at one time WDMs. The US as well as well as other
national governments had sold him WDMs in the past. He had actually
use WMD on the Kurds. He had dozens of the pieces of equipment
including the parts for a centrifuge needed to process bomb grade
uranium.
"at one time", long in the past. WMD was used as a pretext for
invasion. The intelligence was cherry-picked to support a case for
invasion.
Regime change in Iraq was a necessity.
Argument in favor of any invasion always has pros and cons.
Carole continues to display her ignorance.
Post by Fred's brain fungus
Censored report. The report on 911 incident was censored
Information withheld for national security reasons.

Carole again displays her naivete.
Post by Fred's brain fungus
The US government is paid a lot of money and is supposed to be
working for the people
It is working well for the American people.

Mind your own business in Oz.
http://www.business-anti-corruption.com/country-profiles/australia

Carole is an idiot.
Dodgy is as dodgy does
2016-12-03 21:58:03 UTC
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Post by Stack
Post by Fred's brain fungus
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 16:35:01 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
He did have at one time WDMs. The US as well as well as other
national governments had sold him WDMs in the past. He had actually
use WMD on the Kurds. He had dozens of the pieces of equipment
including the parts for a centrifuge needed to process bomb grade
uranium.
"at one time", long in the past. WMD was used as a pretext for
invasion. The intelligence was cherry-picked to support a case for
invasion.
Regime change in Iraq was a necessity.
Argument in favor of any invasion always has pros and cons.
Carole continues to display her ignorance.
No, regime change was not a necessity.
If the reason was to protect the people from Saddam, over 1m people
have been killed from the war and the country is in tatters.

If the reason was that the US wanted to replace Saddam with somebody
who followed the dictates of the globalist agenda, then that fits.
Any country that doesn't go along with the globalist new world order
agenda, is targeted for regime change.

Funny how in the US every life is important but in Iraq 1m+ deaths are
collateral damage.
Post by Stack
Post by Fred's brain fungus
Censored report. The report on 911 incident was censored
Information withheld for national security reasons.
Too much information is classified for national security, often on
trumped up reasons just to keep it secret.
There needs to be more transparency.
The people pay for the government and they have a right to know what
they're paying for.
Post by Stack
Carole again displays her naivete.
Post by Fred's brain fungus
The US government is paid a lot of money and is supposed to be
working for the people
It is working well for the American people.
Not really.
There is increasing gap between the haves and have-nots.
Post by Stack
Mind your own business in Oz.
http://www.business-anti-corruption.com/country-profiles/australia
Carole is an idiot.
Aribert is an idiot and the Washington government needs to have the
swamped drained.



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Dodgy Dealings

10 Counterinsurgency And 'Psy-Ops' Tactics Companies Use Against
Protesters
http://tinyurl.com/gskmtgx

This US Government Is The Most Corrupt In History
http://www.globalresearch.ca/this-us-government-is-the-most-corrupt-in-history/5525810

CDC EXPOSED
https://anticorruptionsociety.com/center-for-disease-control-exposed/

Big Pharma: social impact index reveals a lack of transparency
http://tinyurl.com/qe6r4aa


Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2282014

"Global pharmaceutical companies paid tax of just $85 million in
Australia on revenues of more than $8 billion.
http://tinyurl.com/qj8lmmb


The Globalization of Poverty and the New World Order
by Michel Chossudovsky
http://tinyurl.com/as5ynd3

U.S. Wealth-Concentration: Wealthiest Tenth (10%) of Americans Own 75%
of America
http://tinyurl.com/nzr4mw3

Modern schooling and the war against competition
http://tinyurl.com/o4bv7e6
"In many respects we don’t have a free market economy. We have
cartels, which are the escape from free market, not the natural
progression of free market. They wage war against competition, not by
the traditional means of attracting consumer confidence, but by taking
the reigns of power in government itself and wielding it against its
adversaries. The Rockefeller dynasty represents the epitome of
cartels. Rockefeller’s partnership with Germany’s pharmaceutical giant
I. G. Farben in 1929 formed the most powerful cartel in history."
Stack
2016-12-04 03:08:57 UTC
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Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
No, regime change was not a necessity.
Saddam had developed and used weapons of mass destruction,
Saddam harbored and supported terrorists.
Saddam committed outrageous human rights abuses.
Saddam defied the just demands of the United Nations and the world.
Saddam plotted an assassination attempt on President George H. W. Bush.
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Too much information is classified for national security, often on
trumped up reasons just to keep it secret.
The American people have an abiding interest in maintaining a stable
nation state and a stable world order.

The highly competitive nature of nation states and the fluid state of
world order requires information protection on a wide range of topics,
including weaponry, international negotiation strategies, global
terrorism, among many others.
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
There needs to be more transparency.
There's plenty of transparency between your ears, Carole.
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
The people pay for the government and they have a right to know what
they're paying for.
The American people yield to a strong central government, giving it the
right to conduct foreign policy, including taking appropriate steps to
protect the commonwealth.
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Post by Stack
Carole again displays her naivete.
Post by Fred's brain fungus
The US government is paid a lot of money and is supposed to be
working for the people
It is working well for the American people.
Not really. There is increasing gap between the haves and have-nots.
There's always a gap.
Eliminating national security won't close it.
It will ensure that the gap widens.
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Aribert is an idiot
Who's Aribert?
Your grocer?
Your landlord?
Your shrink?

Carole <-- ignoramus

Lu
2016-12-03 18:29:13 UTC
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Post by Fred's brain fungus
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 16:35:01 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Clay
Post by Anon
We know the US government uses fake news -- the dossier that said
Saddam had WMD.
He did have at one time WDMs. The US as well as well as other national
governments had sold him WDMs in the past. He had actually use WMD on the
Kurds. He had dozens of the pieces of equipment including the parts for a
centrifuge needed to process bomb grade uranium.
"at one time", long in the past.
WMD was used as a pretext for invasion.
The intelligence was cherry-picked to support a case for invasion.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Clay
Their guess turned out wrong. Bid deal.
Saddam needed to be removed anyway.
Post by Anon
The censored reported on 911.
Somethings are intentionally redacted to protect national security.
Or in your naivette, you're familiar with what that means.
Indeed, you tell those who can harm you everything about yourself.
Not to be a nit picker, but what is a "censored reporter"? Who is it?
Censored report.
The report on 911 incident was censored, just like so many reports of
royal commissions and so on. they have predetermined outcomes and
leave out important information in order to keep the public ignorant
on what really happened. Just like the mainstream media which supports
the globalist agenda, these reports are often missing vital
information and are not geared to find the truth, just to cover it up.
Kind of hard to cover up and censor an incident that millions of people
watched and actually experienced with TV coverage of the event starting
within about 5 minutes of the first attack and continuing for weeks.

It was a sad day for all of us. I will never forget driving past the
commuter parking lot at 10:00 PM that night, and the tears in my eyes, at the
sight of the cars that were still sitting there.
Post by Fred's brain fungus
Post by Bob Officer
I think Carole is just too stupid to understand what she reads.
Post by Clay
Post by Anon
The US government has been at it for a long time creating fake news,
propaganda, cover stories and spin.
They don't have a crystal ball that can look into the future.
The US government knows what it is doing but makes out it is stupid
and prone to errors ("anybody can make a mistake -- boo hoo").
The US government is paid a lot of money and is supposed to be working
for the people, not globalist agenda. However, this is not the way it
works in reality.
You really are a fool if you believe all that BS.
Post by Fred's brain fungus
Post by Bob Officer
No they don't.
Don't what?
"No they don't" have a crystal ball.

We must always remember that poor Carole is unable to follow a thread or is
just too lazy to read back to see what we are talking about so we have to
complete every thought.
Post by Fred's brain fungus
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Fred's brain fungus
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Lu
Lu
2016-12-03 17:25:44 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by Clay
Post by Anon
We know the US government uses fake news -- the dossier that said
Saddam had WMD.
He did have at one time WDMs. The US as well as well as other national
governments had sold him WDMs in the past. He had actually use WMD on the
Kurds. He had dozens of the pieces of equipment including the parts for a
centrifuge needed to process bomb grade uranium.
Post by Clay
Their guess turned out wrong. Bid deal.
Saddam needed to be removed anyway.
Post by Anon
The censored reported on 911.
Somethings are intentionally redacted to protect national security.
Or in your naivette, you're familiar with what that means.
Indeed, you tell those who can harm you everything about yourself.
Not to be a nit picker, but what is a "censored reporter"? Who is it?
Not "reporter", "reported", and I would like to know just what she means by
"The censored reported on 911." myself???
Post by Bob Officer
I think Carole is just too stupid to understand what she reads.
Post by Clay
Post by Anon
The US government has been at it for a long time creating fake news,
propaganda, cover stories and spin.
They don't have a crystal ball that can look into the future.
No they don't.
--
Lu

When deciding on medical treatment, we must weigh the risks involved. Among
those risks are a *90% chance of survival and a healthier future, all with or
without the aid of maintenance drugs, *a 10% chance of dying from a medical
accident and *0% chance of a healthy outcome without treatment or using
alternative remedies which is the same as no treatment.



In deciding to use a medicine, or maintenance drug, the risks of taking the
medicine must be weighed against the good it will do. This is a decision you
and your doctor will make.
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