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Doctors Kill More People
Than Guns and Traffic Accidents Combined
By Don Harkins
The Idaho Observer - April, 1999
SANDPOINT -- Last St. Patrick's Day, Sandpoint Chiropractor Blaze Welch gave
a lecture on how to get off of the disease scary-go-round at the Gardenia
Center here. The purpose of the talk, which was sponsored by the North
Idaho chapter of Vaccination Liberation, was to teach people that they are
responsible for their own health. Dr. Welch also discussed figures from
right out of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) which
prove, through accurate interpretations of their own words, that in the last
century we chose the wrong fork in the road with regard to our health care
paradigm.
Most people have been conditioned to believe in what is called the germ
theory of disease -- that germs cause disease. The truth is that germs
(bacteria) are everywhere and they are attracted to and proliferate in
dis-eased tissues. Bacteria decompose dead matter. That is their job. For
instance, when a tree dies, bacteria come in and eat the tree and it
eventually becomes soil. Bacteria do not eat a live, healthy tree. The
same thing is true in people -- bacteria are attracted to dead matter.
Therefore, if you have dead matter in your body, bacteria will come in and
get to work decomposing the dead tissue so that it may eventually become
soil. In the mid 1800s, western medical science had the choice of going one
of two ways. Bechamp's theory of disease maintained that every living thing
has arisen from the microzyma (the fundamental unit of the corporate
organism) and every living thing is reducible to the microzyma. Bechamp
believed that microzymas secrete fermentative substances that aid in
digestion in a healthy body and evolve into bacteria when they encounter
dead or damaged cells.
Pasteur's germ theory of disease maintained that diseases come into our
bodies and make germs that we must fight so that we may be rid of them. J.I.
Rodale explained Pasteur's germ theory of disease by stating that germs live
in the air, and every once in awhile get into a human body, multiply and
cause illness. Nothing to it at all. All you have to do is kill germs and
disease is licked.
Bechamp's theory placed all of the responsibility of disease prevention on
the individual and his lifestyle. In a practical sense, there was no money
in that and people would be empowered with the ability to resist dis-ease by
taking care of themselves. Western medical science went with Pasteur's
theory because it opened the door which created the world's medical and
pharmaceutical industries. Since the 1850s, we have been developing new
drugs to attack and kill the disease invaders and the result has been
epidemics of cancers and sicknesses and diseases -- and a very rich and
powerful pharmaceutical industry.
Last year, commented Dr. Welch, the pharmaceutical industry did $182 billion
in drug sales world wide. . . . Dr. Welch read off some statistics which
should cause concern to anybody who sees an allopathic doctor, has medical
insurance or may end up in the hospital someday. Again, the following
The top five causes of death in the United States, in order, are tobacco,
alcohol, medical malpractice, traffic and firearms. According to JAMA,
doctors kill more people than auto accidents and guns. With that in mind,
one has to wonder why gun control is such a hot legislative issue when,
perhaps, we should be more concerned about doctor control.
The number of people that doctors kill per day from medical malpractice is
roughly equal to the amount of people that would die if every day, three
jumbo jets crashed and killed everybody on board, commented Dr. Welch who
added, in defense of his own profession, just imagine what headlines would
result if a chiropractor or a naturopath accidentally killed just one
patient?
Another JAMA statistic stated that 1/5 (20 percent) of all people who see an
allopath will suffer a doctor-induced injury.
Again, according to JAMA, 16 percent of all people who die in the hospital
are determined by autopsy to have died of something other than their
admission diagnosis. In other words, the doctor had no idea what was really
wrong with the patient and, therefore, the patient may have died for want of
appropriate care that would have been subsequent to an accurate diagnosis.
Another trade publication, American Medical News, stated that 28 percent of
people admitted to hospitals are there because they have suffered an adverse
reaction to prescribed drugs.
We are miserably losing the battle against viruses and bacteria.
Antibiotics do not work. We need to take a different tack because this is
obviously not working, said Dr. Welch. Dr. Welch made numerous practical
and logical observations throughout his lecture. One of them is so obvious
that it deserves mention here. When there is an epidemic of, say, pertussis
in a school and 14 of 200 kids get sick, who gets studied? he asked. The
answer, of course, is that the sick kids get studied. They get studied by
the county health district and the health district accumulates its data and
then tells the newspapers about the epidemic of sickness and everybody then
flocks down to the health district or goes to see their doctor to get
vaccinated.
Would it not be more appropriate to study the 186 kids that did not get
sick? I asked Dr. Welch. Dr. Welch also read a quote from the British
Medical Journal which states that only one percent of all scientific
research papers which explore medicine are scientifically sound.
So, if that is true, then not only are allopathic doctors incorrect in their
understanding of the basic nature of disease, they are basing 99 percent of
their conclusions, and therefore their diagnosis and treatment of people, on
flawed science.
The Idaho Observer P.O. Box 1353 Rathdrum, Idaho 83858-1353
http://proliberty.com/observer/
(Originally found at www.sightings.com)
--
W. S. Swanson, DC
Well I guess we could take it a step further and discuss the suspicious death of many holistic Drs, although thats for another day.
Bob Officer
2017-01-09 01:15:41 UTC
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Did Rip Van Wrinkle just wake up? An article from the year 2000?
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Doctors Kill More People
Than Guns and Traffic Accidents Combined
By Don Harkins
And who is don harkins?
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
The Idaho Observer - April, 1999
SANDPOINT -- Last St. Patrick's Day, Sandpoint Chiropractor Blaze Welch gave
Minus one point chiropractors and not doctors and no chiropractic school
teaches enough biology to make a chiropractor and expert at anything other
than physical therapy.

All they really are is a very expensive over rated masseuse.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
a lecture on how to get off of the disease scary-go-round at the Gardenia
Center here. The purpose of the talk, which was sponsored by the North
Idaho chapter of Vaccination Liberation, was to teach people that they are
responsible for their own health. Dr. Welch also discussed figures from
right out of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) which
prove, through accurate interpretations of their own words, that in the last
Selected spin, with a few items cherry picked?
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
century we chose the wrong fork in the road with regard to our health care
paradigm.
Lol he used the word paradigm. Most people do not really understand that
word and misuse it.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Most people have been conditioned to believe in what is called the germ
theory of disease -- that germs cause disease.
No germ theory model fits better than any other existing model.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
The truth is that germs
(bacteria) are everywhere and they are attracted to and proliferate in
dis-eased tissues. Bacteria decompose dead matter. That is their job. For
instance, when a tree dies, bacteria come in and eat the tree and it
eventually becomes soil. Bacteria do not eat a live, healthy tree. The
same thing is true in people -- bacteria are attracted to dead matter.
Actually bacteria will and does attack living plants. In the process of
reproduction, the bacteria interferes or interrupts the normal cell process
and kills the cell.

http://www.typesofbacteria.co.uk/bacteria-infect-plants.html

Minus 25 point for publishing a lie.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Therefore, if you have dead matter in your body, bacteria will come in and
get to work decomposing the dead tissue so that it may eventually become
soil. In the mid 1800s, western medical science had the choice of going one
of two ways. Bechamp's theory of disease maintained that every living thing
Bechamp' s hypothesis never gained enough status of observations which were
needed to verify the proposed model. It dies because of lack of supporting
evidence. It was never a theory.

Minus 10 points. Total minus 35 points Because the writer just doesn't
understand the differences between speculation, hypothesis, theory, or the
different stages of the process between these stages.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
has arisen from the microzyma (the fundamental unit of the corporate
organism) and every living thing is reducible to the microzyma. The use
of the term microzyma tries to imply that pleomorphism is real. Sorry
folks, this is another of those speculations with no observable evidence to back it.
Minus 20 points for using what is considered a obsolete term and
speculation as if it actually had any supporting evidence.
We are at minus 55 points.

No supporting evidence or observations has ever been found to advance this
line of thinking beyond mere speculation level.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Bechamp
believed that microzymas secrete fermentative substances that aid in
digestion in a healthy body and evolve into bacteria when they encounter
dead or damaged cells.
Believing in speculation is great, for religions, but not for medicine and
science.

Minus 5 points for confounding the words belief and understood. Minus 60
points.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Pasteur's germ theory of disease maintained that diseases come into our
bodies and make germs that we must fight so that we may be rid of them.
Actually not, Pasteur's hypothesis (or actually now a theory) currently
supports the model germs are the disease, and specific bacteria and virus
cause specific diseases.

Minus 30 points for misstatement boarding upon a lie. We are at minus 90
points.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
J.I.
Rodale explained Pasteur's germ theory of disease by stating that germs live
in the air, and every once in awhile get into a human body, multiply and
cause illness. Nothing to it at all. All you have to do is kill germs and
disease is licked.
An over simplification, but "germs" are nearly everywhere.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Bechamp's theory placed all of the responsibility of disease prevention on
the individual and his lifestyle. In a practical sense, there was no money
in that and people would be empowered with the ability to resist dis-ease by
taking care of themselves. Western medical science went with Pasteur's
theory because it opened the door which created the world's medical and
pharmaceutical industries. Since the 1850s, we have been developing new
drugs to attack and kill the disease invaders and the result has been
epidemics of cancers and sicknesses and diseases -- and a very rich and
powerful pharmaceutical industry.
I not going to sell Bechamp short, his work seems to works when it came to
the wine and beer industry, because beer and wine production depend on
yeasts, not bacteria or virus. When the microscope came into use, it was
believed for a short while that yeast musts and molds were the smallest
living thing. Smaller single celled organisms were discover. The bacteria.
Virus would not be discovered for years. In 1890's the tobacco leaf virus
was discovered. (remember up about where the writer stated bacteria do not
infect plants?)
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Last year, commented Dr. Welch, the pharmaceutical industry did $182 billion
in drug sales world wide. . . .
Which really isn't that much when you consider how many people there are...
this use of the fallacy of large numbers is another minus 5 points. Total
minus 95 points.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Dr. Welch read off some statistics which
should cause concern to anybody who sees an allopathic doctor, has medical
insurance or may end up in the hospital someday. Again, the following
The top five causes of death in the United States, in order, are tobacco,
alcohol, medical malpractice, traffic and firearms. According to JAMA,
doctors kill more people than auto accidents and guns. With that in mind,
one has to wonder why gun control is such a hot legislative issue when,
perhaps, we should be more concerned about doctor control.
There are many forms of medical malpractice, and the term the AMA used was
not male practice. It was medical misadventures, and included patients not
following doctors instruction and patients which lied to their doctors.

Also this so called article which was not referenced in his "presentation"
is in complete disagreement with the CDC database for mortality.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
The number of people that doctors kill per day from medical malpractice is
roughly equal to the amount of people that would die if every day, three
jumbo jets crashed and killed everybody on board, commented Dr. Welch who
added, in defense of his own profession, just imagine what headlines would
result if a chiropractor or a naturopath accidentally killed just one
patient?
Wow, stats which not references? How does one fact check that claim.

Minus 3 points for what appear pulling facts out of thin. Air. We are at a
minus 98 points.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Another JAMA statistic stated that 1/5 (20 percent) of all people who see an
allopath will suffer a doctor-induced injury.
Again, according to JAMA, 16 percent of all people who die in the hospital
are determined by autopsy to have died of something other than their
admission diagnosis. In other words, the doctor had no idea what was really
wrong with the patient and, therefore, the patient may have died for want of
appropriate care that would have been subsequent to an accurate diagnosis.
Again admission to the hospital didn't effect the final outcome. In many
cases the patients believe they know more than qualified MDs and towards
the end stage are rushed to the hospital and die.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Another trade publication, American Medical News, stated that 28 percent of
people admitted to hospitals are there because they have suffered an adverse
reaction to prescribed drugs.
Often times because they didn't follow dosing instructions.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
We are miserably losing the battle against viruses and bacteria.
Antibiotics do not work. We need to take a different tack because this is
obviously not working, said Dr. Welch. Dr. Welch made numerous practical
and logical observations throughout his lecture. One of them is so obvious
I doubt that I have seen little logic present so far.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
that it deserves mention here. When there is an epidemic of, say, pertussis
in a school and 14 of 200 kids get sick, who gets studied? he asked. The
answer, of course, is that the sick kids get studied. They get studied by
the county health district and the health district accumulates its data and
then tells the newspapers about the epidemic of sickness and everybody then
flocks down to the health district or goes to see their doctor to get
vaccinated.
Would it not be more appropriate to study the 186 kids that did not get
sick? I asked Dr. Welch. Dr. Welch also read a quote from the British
Medical Journal which states that only one percent of all scientific
research papers which explore medicine are scientifically sound.
Odds are the initial examination of the 186 kids will show all of them had
their vaccinations.

This is all the art of misdirection, the speaker makes an inference and
leads the audience where there is no evidence to lead there.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
So, if that is true, then not only are allopathic doctors incorrect in their
understanding of the basic nature of disease, they are basing 99 percent of
their conclusions, and therefore their diagnosis and treatment of people, on
flawed science.
The Idaho Observer P.O. Box 1353 Rathdrum, Idaho 83858-1353
http://proliberty.com/observer/
(Originally found at www.sightings.com)
--
W. S. Swanson, DC
Well I guess we could take it a step further and discuss the suspicious
death of many holistic Drs, although thats for another day.
Holistic doctors are not supposed to die?
Do You mean quacks are exempt from dying?
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity

Duncan
2017-01-20 04:07:51 UTC
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On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 01:15:41 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Did Rip Van Wrinkle just wake up? An article from the year 2000?
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Doctors Kill More People
Than Guns and Traffic Accidents Combined
By Don Harkins
And who is don harkins?
Obviously NOT one of the journalists that put their name to CIA
propaganda.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
The Idaho Observer - April, 1999
SANDPOINT -- Last St. Patrick's Day, Sandpoint Chiropractor Blaze Welch gave
Minus one point chiropractors and not doctors and no chiropractic school
teaches enough biology to make a chiropractor and expert at anything other
than physical therapy.
All they really are is a very expensive over rated masseuse.
Meaning that only "safe and efficacious pharmaceutical drugs and those
who prescribe them", are qualified to diagnose or treat disease.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
a lecture on how to get off of the disease scary-go-round at the Gardenia
Center here. The purpose of the talk, which was sponsored by the North
Idaho chapter of Vaccination Liberation, was to teach people that they are
responsible for their own health. Dr. Welch also discussed figures from
right out of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) which
prove, through accurate interpretations of their own words, that in the last
Selected spin, with a few items cherry picked?
Meaning reverse spin, which is how those who promote fake news turn it
onto those who don't ie "attack is the best form of defence"..
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
century we chose the wrong fork in the road with regard to our health care
paradigm.
Lol he used the word paradigm. Most people do not really understand that
word and misuse it.
Paradigm is another word for model.
Oh but bob doesn't understand meanings of words very well and thinks
that "belief" and "opinion" are different. IOW a person's belief
somehow is different from a person's opinion, or conversely that an
opinion is somehow different from a belief.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Most people have been conditioned to believe in what is called the germ
theory of disease -- that germs cause disease.
No germ theory model fits better than any other existing model.
So says the pharmaceutical industry who has been brainwashing
everybody for the last 100+ year. And there's still so much that
remains a mystery to them such as the cause of autism which remains a
total mystery. Don't forget cancer which just occurs out of the blue,
no cause such as toxemia, nutrient deficiency or stress.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
The truth is that germs
(bacteria) are everywhere and they are attracted to and proliferate in
dis-eased tissues. Bacteria decompose dead matter. That is their job. For
instance, when a tree dies, bacteria come in and eat the tree and it
eventually becomes soil. Bacteria do not eat a live, healthy tree. The
same thing is true in people -- bacteria are attracted to dead matter.
Actually bacteria will and does attack living plants. In the process of
reproduction, the bacteria interferes or interrupts the normal cell process
and kills the cell.
http://www.typesofbacteria.co.uk/bacteria-infect-plants.html
Minus 25 point for publishing a lie.
Yes, but strong plants grown in superior conditions, are more
resistant to bacteria than weak ones.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Therefore, if you have dead matter in your body, bacteria will come in and
get to work decomposing the dead tissue so that it may eventually become
soil. In the mid 1800s, western medical science had the choice of going one
of two ways. Bechamp's theory of disease maintained that every living thing
Bechamp' s hypothesis never gained enough status of observations which were
needed to verify the proposed model. It dies because of lack of supporting
evidence. It was never a theory.
Not lack of supporting evidence, but he wasn't supported by those with
the money, same as how free electricity by Tesla wasn't supported by
the robber barons who wanted to a meter to make money from users.
Post by Bob Officer
Minus 10 points. Total minus 35 points Because the writer just doesn't
understand the differences between speculation, hypothesis, theory, or the
different stages of the process between these stages.
Bullshit bob.
Speculation, hypothesis and theory can be interchangeable.
I can speculate, form a hypothesis or create a theory.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
has arisen from the microzyma (the fundamental unit of the corporate
organism) and every living thing is reducible to the microzyma. The use
of the term microzyma tries to imply that pleomorphism is real. Sorry
folks, this is another of those speculations with no observable evidence to back it.
Minus 20 points for using what is considered a obsolete term and
speculation as if it actually had any supporting evidence.
We are at minus 55 points.
But your marking is at -70 points.
Post by Bob Officer
No supporting evidence or observations has ever been found to advance this
line of thinking beyond mere speculation level.
You mean, no supprting evidence or observations has ever been found BY
BIG PHARMA to advance the line of thinking. But since big pharma is
based on lies and propaganda, this is to be expected.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Bechamp
believed that microzymas secrete fermentative substances that aid in
digestion in a healthy body and evolve into bacteria when they encounter
dead or damaged cells.
Believing in speculation is great, for religions, but not for medicine and
science.
Minus 5 points for confounding the words belief and understood. Minus 60
points.
Why not bob?
These days medical science is based on voodoo and superstition, that's
how come it is so profitable and ineffective.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Pasteur's germ theory of disease maintained that diseases come into our
bodies and make germs that we must fight so that we may be rid of them.
Actually not, Pasteur's hypothesis (or actually now a theory) currently
supports the model germs are the disease, and specific bacteria and virus
cause specific diseases.
A theory is just that, a theory. It may or may not be true.
I can theorise about anything, it is speculation.
Post by Bob Officer
Minus 30 points for misstatement boarding upon a lie. We are at minus 90
points.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
J.I.
Rodale explained Pasteur's germ theory of disease by stating that germs live
in the air, and every once in awhile get into a human body, multiply and
cause illness. Nothing to it at all. All you have to do is kill germs and
disease is licked.
An over simplification, but "germs" are nearly everywhere.
Germs are everywhere.
The human body is mostly made up from bacteria.
This is called the microbiome.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Bechamp's theory placed all of the responsibility of disease prevention on
the individual and his lifestyle. In a practical sense, there was no money
in that and people would be empowered with the ability to resist dis-ease by
taking care of themselves. Western medical science went with Pasteur's
theory because it opened the door which created the world's medical and
pharmaceutical industries. Since the 1850s, we have been developing new
drugs to attack and kill the disease invaders and the result has been
epidemics of cancers and sicknesses and diseases -- and a very rich and
powerful pharmaceutical industry.
I not going to sell Bechamp short, his work seems to works when it came to
the wine and beer industry, because beer and wine production depend on
yeasts, not bacteria or virus. When the microscope came into use, it was
believed for a short while that yeast musts and molds were the smallest
living thing. Smaller single celled organisms were discover. The bacteria.
Virus would not be discovered for years. In 1890's the tobacco leaf virus
was discovered. (remember up about where the writer stated bacteria do not
infect plants?)
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Last year, commented Dr. Welch, the pharmaceutical industry did $182 billion
in drug sales world wide. . . .
Which really isn't that much when you consider how many people there are...
this use of the fallacy of large numbers is another minus 5 points. Total
minus 95 points.
Its the robber barons stupid!
They cornered the market on anything that could have a meter put on it
and then suppressed alternatives.
Oil, bombs, pharmaceutical drugs, chemicals, GMOs etc.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Dr. Welch read off some statistics which
should cause concern to anybody who sees an allopathic doctor, has medical
insurance or may end up in the hospital someday. Again, the following
The top five causes of death in the United States, in order, are tobacco,
alcohol, medical malpractice, traffic and firearms. According to JAMA,
doctors kill more people than auto accidents and guns. With that in mind,
one has to wonder why gun control is such a hot legislative issue when,
perhaps, we should be more concerned about doctor control.
There are many forms of medical malpractice, and the term the AMA used was
not male practice. It was medical misadventures, and included patients not
following doctors instruction and patients which lied to their doctors.
Also this so called article which was not referenced in his "presentation"
is in complete disagreement with the CDC database for mortality.
The AMA is a union for doctors.
It is looking after the interest of allopathic doctors.
The CDC and FDA are looking after pharmaceutical business.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
The number of people that doctors kill per day from medical malpractice is
roughly equal to the amount of people that would die if every day, three
jumbo jets crashed and killed everybody on board, commented Dr. Welch who
added, in defense of his own profession, just imagine what headlines would
result if a chiropractor or a naturopath accidentally killed just one
patient?
Wow, stats which not references? How does one fact check that claim.
Same as how vaccination injury is not worn any longer by those who
produce the vaccines, but by the government, ie taxpayers who wear the
ever increasing expense of payouts for injuries. It is estimated that
only 1 in 10 injuries are reported.
Post by Bob Officer
Minus 3 points for what appear pulling facts out of thin. Air. We are at a
minus 98 points.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Another JAMA statistic stated that 1/5 (20 percent) of all people who see an
allopath will suffer a doctor-induced injury.
Again, according to JAMA, 16 percent of all people who die in the hospital
are determined by autopsy to have died of something other than their
admission diagnosis. In other words, the doctor had no idea what was really
wrong with the patient and, therefore, the patient may have died for want of
appropriate care that would have been subsequent to an accurate diagnosis.
Again admission to the hospital didn't effect the final outcome. In many
cases the patients believe they know more than qualified MDs and towards
the end stage are rushed to the hospital and die.
One again bob shows his allopathic mainstream colours.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
Another trade publication, American Medical News, stated that 28 percent of
people admitted to hospitals are there because they have suffered an adverse
reaction to prescribed drugs.
Often times because they didn't follow dosing instructions.
Except for when they do follow instructions and get bad reactions
(VIOXX).
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
We are miserably losing the battle against viruses and bacteria.
Antibiotics do not work. We need to take a different tack because this is
obviously not working, said Dr. Welch. Dr. Welch made numerous practical
and logical observations throughout his lecture. One of them is so obvious
I doubt that I have seen little logic present so far.
You wouldn't know the meaning of the word "logic".
What does it mean bob, ie in your own words. (This will be good)
Post by Bob Officer
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
that it deserves mention here. When there is an epidemic of, say, pertussis
in a school and 14 of 200 kids get sick, who gets studied? he asked. The
answer, of course, is that the sick kids get studied. They get studied by
the county health district and the health district accumulates its data and
then tells the newspapers about the epidemic of sickness and everybody then
flocks down to the health district or goes to see their doctor to get
vaccinated.
Would it not be more appropriate to study the 186 kids that did not get
sick? I asked Dr. Welch. Dr. Welch also read a quote from the British
Medical Journal which states that only one percent of all scientific
research papers which explore medicine are scientifically sound.
Odds are the initial examination of the 186 kids will show all of them had
their vaccinations.
Not necessarily, there are outbreaks amongst fully vaccinated who
actually cause the disease where it didn't exist previous.
Post by Bob Officer
This is all the art of misdirection, the speaker makes an inference and
leads the audience where there is no evidence to lead there.
Post by i***@herbalabode.com
So, if that is true, then not only are allopathic doctors incorrect in their
understanding of the basic nature of disease, they are basing 99 percent of
their conclusions, and therefore their diagnosis and treatment of people, on
flawed science.
The Idaho Observer P.O. Box 1353 Rathdrum, Idaho 83858-1353
http://proliberty.com/observer/
(Originally found at www.sightings.com)
--
W. S. Swanson, DC
Well I guess we could take it a step further and discuss the suspicious
death of many holistic Drs, although thats for another day.
Holistic doctors are not supposed to die?
Do You mean quacks are exempt from dying?
Bob has a go at misdirection here.
What we're talking about bob, is doctors who are eliminated because
they have come across something big pharma doesn't like.



--
Duncan

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"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There
are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we
don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we
don't know we don't know." -- Donald Rumsfeld

"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to
worry about answers." - Thomas Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow
Post by Bob Officer
[BOB] "Beliefs are not opinions."
I think you will find that "belief" is a synonym for "opinion".
So WTF are you trying to say idiot?
[BOB] "I stand by what I said in context. A belief is
something held true with or without supporting
evidence or in the face of contradictory evidence.

An opinion is based on what one thinks and not what
one believes. Ones religion is what one believes.
Religion requires no thinking and in many cases
Religion forbids thinking.

While you might believe their are interchangeable
synonyms, I think if you asked an expert in the
English Language they might agree with me. The
words have different meanings and uses."
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">I didn't know there was a requirement to generate topics. Where did
Post by Bob Officer
you get that idiotic idea from. " -- Bob Officer
DK: Bob Officer is a member of the group I
DK; accurately describe as...
PSEUDO-SKEPTIC-FANATICS (PSF)
http://www.psicounsel.com/bobofficer.html

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