Oz isn't in the mix

[Dakota Watson]

Every three years, half a million 15-year-olds in 69 countries take a
two-hour test designed to gauge their ability to think. Unlike other
exams, the PISA, as it is known, does not assess what teenagers have
memorized. Instead, it asks them to solve problems they haven’t seen
before, to identify patterns that are not obvious and to make
compelling written arguments. It tests the skills, in other words,
that machines have not yet mastered.

The latest results reveal the performance of kids in Australia has
been in decline since 2006.

http://www.compareyourcountry.org/pisa/country/AUS

http://www.oecd.org/pisa/

http://nyti.ms/2gL6mTR

[A little knowledge]

Post by Dakota Watson
Every three years, half a million 15-year-olds in 69 countries take a
two-hour test designed to gauge their ability to think. Unlike other
exams, the PISA, as it is known, does not assess what teenagers have
memorized. Instead, it asks them to solve problems they haven’t seen
before, to identify patterns that are not obvious and to make
compelling written arguments. It tests the skills, in other words,
that machines have not yet mastered.
The latest results reveal the performance of kids in Australia has
been in decline since 2006.
http://www.compareyourcountry.org/pisa/country/AUS

This map doesn't compare, just shows downward trend.
Yes, it seems Oz is on the decline.

I have heard in the skynews media that there is too much emphasis on
school programs that try to indoctrinate kids into social ideas rather
than the 3 RRRs.

Post by Dakota Watson
http://www.oecd.org/pisa/

On this map, Oz does better than US in science, mathematics, reading
and overall, doesn't seem to be doing too bad although on the decline.

Post by Dakota Watson
http://nyti.ms/2gL6mTR

--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing


"The U.S. government does not study anything holistically. Everything
is studied in isolation from all else."
-- The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth, and
Trust (Manifesto Series) by Robert David Steele
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/05/robert-steele-at-libtechnyc-the-open-source-everything-manifesto/

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/
"From an early age, we are forced into a mandatory school system that
requires and encourages youth to attend for a large portion of their
human life, for six hours a day. Each child is required to learn the
accepted version of reality in order to fit into the specific mold
desired by the elite. Just like television, a large part of school is
simply programming. It’s ironic how the same families behind the
funding are responsible for many inhumane atrocities that took place
throughout history. They are also behind big oil, big pharma, food and
other industries that are becoming more transparent as of late. Kids
who do not fit into the system and do not resonate with it are usually
labelled and medicated. Essentially, the whole point of school is to
shape the reality of the student."


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
" ...if we were really taught to critically think do you think we
would have the systems we have in place now? Our financial system? Our
health system and its corruption? Events like 9/11? Religions? Even
our education system for that matter. If we were actually taught to
critically think, education as we know it would collapse on itself and
a new system would be built. If we were actually taught to critically
think, the powers at be would not have the control they do now, this
is why we are sent to school from such a young age, and why fear is
used to get us to continue in our later years."

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2009/09/20/understanding-vs-memorization/
"It is important we learn to understand the information we take in and
not simply memorize it, this will allow us to break each piece of
information down to its roots and find the truth or fallacy. It is
evident we rarely do this now by simply looking at the world we live
in. This does not mean we need to be skeptics or pessimists, or try
and logically think everything out, it simply means we should look to
understand our information and FEEL whether is bares truth. We need
not memorize information we receive from authority figures, it is a
choice, one we can all make from here on out."


Circular reasoning, also known as 'Begging the question'
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
eg of Begging the Question
Bill: "God must exist."
Jill: "How do you know."
Bill: "Because the Bible says so."
Jill: "Why should I believe the Bible?"
Bill: "Because the Bible was written by God [and god never lies]"

[Bob Officer]

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Dakota Watson
Every three years, half a million 15-year-olds in 69 countries take a
two-hour test designed to gauge their ability to think. Unlike other
exams, the PISA, as it is known, does not assess what teenagers have
memorized. Instead, it asks them to solve problems they haven’t seen
before, to identify patterns that are not obvious and to make
compelling written arguments. It tests the skills, in other words,
that machines have not yet mastered.
The latest results reveal the performance of kids in Australia has
been in decline since 2006.
http://www.compareyourcountry.org/pisa/country/AUS

This map doesn't compare, just shows downward trend.
Yes, it seems Oz is on the decline.
I have heard in the skynews media that there is too much emphasis on
school programs that try to indoctrinate kids into social ideas rather
than the 3 RRRs.

This study tends to indicate what you hear is wrong. Countries which
emphasize understanding information rather than recitation or regurgitation
tend to create better performers on assessment tools like this.

This assessment is not test on what they know, but how well the read and
can make sound deduction from what they have read.

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Dakota Watson
http://www.oecd.org/pisa/

On this map, Oz does better than US in science, mathematics, reading
and overall, doesn't seem to be doing too bad although on the decline.

Post by Dakota Watson
http://nyti.ms/2gL6mTR

[Charley Horse]

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Dakota Watson
Every three years, half a million 15-year-olds in 69 countries take a
two-hour test designed to gauge their ability to think. Unlike other
exams, the PISA, as it is known, does not assess what teenagers have
memorized. Instead, it asks them to solve problems they haven’t seen
before, to identify patterns that are not obvious and to make
compelling written arguments. It tests the skills, in other words,
that machines have not yet mastered.
The latest results reveal the performance of kids in Australia has
been in decline since 2006.
http://www.compareyourcountry.org/pisa/country/AUS

This map doesn't compare, just shows downward trend.
Yes, it seems Oz is on the decline.
I have heard in the skynews media that there is too much emphasis on
school programs that try to indoctrinate kids into social ideas rather
than the 3 RRRs.

This study tends to indicate what you hear is wrong. Countries which
emphasize understanding information rather than recitation or regurgitation
tend to create better performers on assessment tools like this.
This assessment is not test on what they know, but how well the read and
can make sound deduction from what they have read.

Carole is an blimping idiot.

[Blind Freddie]

On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 17:42:56 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Dakota Watson
Every three years, half a million 15-year-olds in 69 countries take a
two-hour test designed to gauge their ability to think. Unlike other
exams, the PISA, as it is known, does not assess what teenagers have
memorized. Instead, it asks them to solve problems they haven?t seen
before, to identify patterns that are not obvious and to make
compelling written arguments. It tests the skills, in other words,
that machines have not yet mastered.
The latest results reveal the performance of kids in Australia has
been in decline since 2006.
http://www.compareyourcountry.org/pisa/country/AUS

This map doesn't compare, just shows downward trend.
Yes, it seems Oz is on the decline.
I have heard in the skynews media that there is too much emphasis on
school programs that try to indoctrinate kids into social ideas rather
than the 3 RRRs.

This study tends to indicate what you hear is wrong. Countries which
emphasize understanding information rather than recitation or regurgitation
tend to create better performers on assessment tools like this.
This assessment is not test on what they know, but how well the read and
can make sound deduction from what they have read.

OK. I've never heard of pisa before this.
However, it shows that US is behind Oz in this type of rating,
indicating overall that US is less capable of thinking outside what
they are told by mainstream. Hence all the dumbarses in this ng from
US.

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Dakota Watson
http://www.oecd.org/pisa/

On this map, Oz does better than US in science, mathematics, reading
and overall, doesn't seem to be doing too bad although on the decline.

Post by Dakota Watson
http://nyti.ms/2gL6mTR

--
Blind Freddie
"None so blind as those who will not see"

7 Massive Misconceptions Many Never Question
http://tinyurl.com/jg9jay3

A brief history of FDA raids against providers of natural health
products
https://thebovine.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/a-brief-history-of-fda-raids-against-providers-of-natural-health-products/

Tyranny in the USA: The true history of FDA raids on healers, vitamin
shops and supplement companies
http://www.naturalnews.com/021791.html

The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry
http://tinyurl.com/zgmi


DDT
"A former high official at the NSA (National Security Agency) told me
about a protocol informally dubbed DDT - that old poisonous chemical
long-banned in much of the world. In this application, it stands for
Decoy, Distract and Trash - which is what sophisticated intelligence
operatives use to set up some person or group, take them off the trail
of something real and important, and trash the person or the
subject." -- Stephen Greer.


Suppression of dissent in science
Brian Martin / Research in Social Problems and Public Policy, Volume 7
1999
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Suppression-Dissent-Science.htm


Pan Pharmaceuticals
The founder of Pan Pharmaceuticals, the company which had its licence
withdrawn by the Therapeutic Goods Administration in 2003, has
received a record $50 million payout from the Federal Government.
- Founder 'blameless'
- 400 jobs lost
- Public inquiry wanted
Jim Selim had sued the TGA for compensation for ruining his business,
claiming public servants had acted outside their power and with
vengeance when withdrawing the licence after concerns over certain
products and manufacturing processes.
TGA shareholders lost $350 million, almost 400 people lost their jobs,
and Pan's customers lost hundreds of millions of dollars in business,
Mr Selim's lawyer Andrew Thorpe said outside the court today.
http://tinyurl.com/p8nkyco


Cover Stories invented to engineer public opinions
"Many people have been so concerned about what has been happening to
our Government that they have dedicated themselves to investigating
and exposing its evils. Unfortunately, a number of these writers have
been dupes of those cleverer than they or with sinister reasons for
concealing knowledge. They have written what they thought was the
truth, only to find out (if they ever did find out) that they had been
fed a lot of contrived cover stories and just plain hogwash. In this
book I have taken extracts from some of this writing and, line by
line, have shown how it has been manipulated to give a semblance of
truth while at the same time being contrived and false. " -- The
Secret Team, Fletcher L. Prouty,
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/USO/appA.html 


The FDA is Running an Extortion Racket
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/13/the-fda-is-running-an-extortion-racket.aspx
"The FDA has been targeting supplement makers for some time, claiming
it’s all in the interest of public safety. But it doesn’t take much
investigation to realize what’s really going on: the FDA isn’t
interested in protecting you -- they’re interested in protecting the
pharmaceutical industry."


NCI's revolving door with the cancer industry
http://www.cancerdefeated.com/newsletters/How-Conspiracy-and-Fraud-Sabotage-the-War-on-Cancer.html

Modern schooling and the war against competition
http://tinyurl.com/o4bv7e6

[Dakota Watson]

On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:07:30 +1100, Blind Freddie

Post by Blind Freddie
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 17:42:56 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Dakota Watson
Every three years, half a million 15-year-olds in 69 countries take a
two-hour test designed to gauge their ability to think. Unlike other
exams, the PISA, as it is known, does not assess what teenagers have
memorized. Instead, it asks them to solve problems they haven?t seen
before, to identify patterns that are not obvious and to make
compelling written arguments. It tests the skills, in other words,
that machines have not yet mastered.
The latest results reveal the performance of kids in Australia has
been in decline since 2006.
http://www.compareyourcountry.org/pisa/country/AUS

This map doesn't compare, just shows downward trend.
Yes, it seems Oz is on the decline.
I have heard in the skynews media that there is too much emphasis on
school programs that try to indoctrinate kids into social ideas rather
than the 3 RRRs.

This study tends to indicate what you hear is wrong. Countries which
emphasize understanding information rather than recitation or regurgitation
tend to create better performers on assessment tools like this.
This assessment is not test on what they know, but how well the read and
can make sound deduction from what they have read.

OK. I've never heard of pisa before this.

No surprise there.

Post by Blind Freddie
However, it shows that US is behind Oz in this type of rating,
indicating overall that US is less capable of thinking outside what
they are told by mainstream. Hence all the dumbarses in this ng from
US.

Again, your inability to read and comprehend comes to the forefront.

You are the chief dumbarse in this ng.
All of Oz is embarassed by your nonsense.

Now go drown your disaffection with one too many Midori.
Then come back to your cubbyhole and swallow some panadeine.
Your liver will be sure to respond in kind.

[Bob Officer]

Post by Dakota Watson
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:07:30 +1100, Blind Freddie

Post by Blind Freddie
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 17:42:56 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Dakota Watson
Every three years, half a million 15-year-olds in 69 countries take a
two-hour test designed to gauge their ability to think. Unlike other
exams, the PISA, as it is known, does not assess what teenagers have
memorized. Instead, it asks them to solve problems they haven?t seen
before, to identify patterns that are not obvious and to make
compelling written arguments. It tests the skills, in other words,
that machines have not yet mastered.
The latest results reveal the performance of kids in Australia has
been in decline since 2006.
http://www.compareyourcountry.org/pisa/country/AUS

This map doesn't compare, just shows downward trend.
Yes, it seems Oz is on the decline.
I have heard in the skynews media that there is too much emphasis on
school programs that try to indoctrinate kids into social ideas rather
than the 3 RRRs.

This study tends to indicate what you hear is wrong. Countries which
emphasize understanding information rather than recitation or regurgitation
tend to create better performers on assessment tools like this.
This assessment is not a test on what they know, but how well the read and
can make sound deduction from what they have read.

OK. I've never heard of pisa before this.

No surprise there.

It is a well know but little used tool. Just deciding which school take the
test could even slant the results. The test is not given to every 15 year
old student in the country. I shouldn't be given that much of weight.

What it does do is test how well these near adult handle difference
situations. Like I said else where it isn't designed to test how much they
know but how well they learn and think.

Post by Dakota Watson

Post by Blind Freddie
However, it shows that US is behind Oz in this type of rating,
indicating overall that US is less capable of thinking outside what
they are told by mainstream. Hence all the dumbarses in this ng from
US.

Again, your inability to read and comprehend comes to the forefront.

I don't understand where she gets that sort of idea from?
The assessment results actually showed a static to slight improvement in
all categories for the US. And IIRC static or slight decline for Oz in all
categories.

Post by Dakota Watson
You are the chief dumbarse in this ng.
All of Oz is embarassed by your nonsense.
Now go drown your disaffection with one too many Midori.
Then come back to your cubbyhole and swallow some panadeine.
Your liver will be sure to respond in kind.

[Bob Officer]

Post by Blind Freddie
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 17:42:56 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Dakota Watson
Every three years, half a million 15-year-olds in 69 countries take a
two-hour test designed to gauge their ability to think. Unlike other
exams, the PISA, as it is known, does not assess what teenagers have
memorized. Instead, it asks them to solve problems they haven?t seen
before, to identify patterns that are not obvious and to make
compelling written arguments. It tests the skills, in other words,
that machines have not yet mastered.
The latest results reveal the performance of kids in Australia has
been in decline since 2006.
http://www.compareyourcountry.org/pisa/country/AUS

This map doesn't compare, just shows downward trend.
Yes, it seems Oz is on the decline.
I have heard in the skynews media that there is too much emphasis on
school programs that try to indoctrinate kids into social ideas rather
than the 3 RRRs.

This study tends to indicate what you hear is wrong. Countries which
emphasize understanding information rather than recitation or regurgitation
tend to create better performers on assessment tools like this.
This assessment is not test on what they know, but how well the read and
can make sound deduction from what they have read.

OK. I've never heard of pisa before this.

Outside of people that specialize in education, it is relatively unknown.

Post by Blind Freddie
However, it shows that US is behind Oz in this type of rating,

No it doesn't show that.

Post by Blind Freddie
indicating overall that US is less capable of thinking outside what
they are told by mainstream. Hence all the dumbarses in this ng from
US.

Actually you are wrong.
Actually the are designed to show well they work inside the "box". This
goes to show how little you understand about "box".

Post by Blind Freddie

Post by Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge

Post by Dakota Watson
http://www.oecd.org/pisa/

On this map, Oz does better than US in science, mathematics, reading
and overall, doesn't seem to be doing too bad although on the decline.

Oz is not directly compared to the US on that map but to an average scores
not in percentile of the norm.

I looked and I can not find stats where their is a direct comparison
between the US and Oz. Comparison of average scores is an unusual method of
comparison. The usual method is a computation of median scores and then
ratings are reduced to percentiles about and below norm.

Funny things about using averages.
Here is an illustration:

Take a group of five people we will called them Group A
Each person is given a test.
Each person has an identical score of 80%
The median score is 80%


Now the test is given to another group of 5 people, and we will called them
Group B
One person scores an 80% two score 70% and two score 90%
The group average is still 80%
The groups median score is still 80%
But now each person has a ranking between the group

Now take another group of five people that take the same test call them
group C.
The scores are 60, 70, 80, 90, 100.
The average stay the same.
The median stayed the same.

In each case groups A, B and C it appears the test results were the same
if we only look at averages.
But they were not because the same test results because each group the same
median and averages.
Now because the test was given to 15 people, we can rank the scores by
percentiles and then compare individual score back against the group of all
test takers. Only then can you get a significant comparison.

Comparing test scores is not so simple, is it. If one person's school goes
up and one person score drops the average stays the same for the group. So
we see in the simple example not to use test average scores as indicators
or comparisons between groups.

When comparison in intelligence, learning, work or any other type of
comparison of scores take place they are usually expressed as percentiles
where 100 is the norm or the middle of a distributed curve.

Then one has to consider very fact this test had written answers to some
of the question which could in turn lead to the creation of some sort of
bias in the score.

This is interesting set of test and results, but in the world of things is
should be just an average weight. It really doesn't provide any real
indicator of anything of significance.

Post by Blind Freddie

Post by Bob Officer

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Post by Dakota Watson
http://nyti.ms/2gL6mTR