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Drug companies “buy” positive research results, reveals shocking BMJ study
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Dodgy is as dodgy does
2017-02-10 23:26:31 UTC
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Drug companies “buy” positive research results, reveals shocking BMJ
study; the entire body of Big Pharma ‘evidence’ must now be questioned
http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-01-23-drug-companies-buy-positive-research-results-reveals-shocking-bmj-study-the-entire-body-of-big-pharma-evidence-must-now-be-questioned.html

"Drug companies “buy” positive research results, reveals shocking BMJ
study; the entire body of Big Pharma ‘evidence’ must now be questioned

Monday, January 23, 2017 by: JD Heyes

Image: Drug companies “buy” positive research results, reveals
shocking BMJ study; the entire body of Big Pharma ‘evidence’ must now
be questioned

(Natural News) If you ever wanted to know why it is vital that the
incoming Trump administration implement dramatic reforms of the
pharmaceutical industry, this should answer that question
comprehensively.

To say that Big Pharma is corrupt is an understatement, especially
after a shocking new study published in the British Medical Journal
found that drug makers actually purchase positive field trial results
so that it will be easier, cheaper and quicker to get new drugs
approved."


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Dodgy Dealings

10 Counterinsurgency And 'Psy-Ops' Tactics Companies Use Against
Protesters
http://tinyurl.com/gskmtgx

This US Government Is The Most Corrupt In History
http://www.globalresearch.ca/this-us-government-is-the-most-corrupt-in-history/5525810

CDC EXPOSED
https://anticorruptionsociety.com/center-for-disease-control-exposed/

Big Pharma: social impact index reveals a lack of transparency
http://tinyurl.com/qe6r4aa


Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2282014

"Global pharmaceutical companies paid tax of just $85 million in
Australia on revenues of more than $8 billion.
http://tinyurl.com/qj8lmmb
The Newest Other Guy
2017-02-11 07:20:05 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
Enquiring minds want to know
2017-02-13 20:04:18 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.

But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.

People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.

You're an idiot.


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Enquiring minds want to know

http://www.thebigcancerlie.com/
""As a retired physician, I can honestly say that unless you are in a
serious accident, your best chance of living to a ripe old age is to
avoid doctors and hospitals and learn nutrition, herbal medicine and
other forms of natural medicine unless you are fortunate enough to
have a naturopathic physician available." Dr Allan Greenberg

https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/autismenvironmental/
"When Director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute
Collins stated:- "Recent increases in chronic diseases like diabetes,
childhood asthma,
obesity or autism cannot be due to major shifts in the human gene pool
as those changes take much more time to occur."

'The corporation' (2003) quotes
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379225/quotes

The pharmaceutical industry is based on myths and lies
http://www.pharmamyths.net/

Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://www.pharmamyths.net/files/JLME_ARTICLE_2013.pdf

Big Pharma Pockets $711 Billion in Profits by Price-Gouging Taxpayers
and Seniors
http://healthcareforamericanow.org/2013/04/08/pharma-711-billion-profits-price-gouging-seniors/

Pharmaceutical Companies Spent 19 Times More On Self-Promotion Than
Basic Research: Report
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/pharmaceutical-companies-marketing_n_1760380.html
Mo Onions
2017-02-14 01:10:28 UTC
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 07:04:18 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
<snip>
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
You're an idiot.
Yes, everyone knows.

You need an idiot in your life, and you come here to find a
surrogate.

Have you considered another source?
The ones here really don't do the job for you.

One has to wonder what you would do, should you ever meet
someone who agrees completely with your views.

Who then would be your idiot?
Lu
2017-03-11 15:17:46 UTC
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Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
Bob Officer
2017-03-12 02:31:30 UTC
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Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity

Lu
2017-03-12 23:02:23 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Bob Officer
2017-03-13 00:48:59 UTC
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Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.

So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts to tether a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig. A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.

Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.

Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.

I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Lu
2017-03-13 14:01:24 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts to tether a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig. A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Don’t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
Bob Officer
2017-03-14 05:51:40 UTC
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Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts together a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig.
A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Wild guess are frowned upon.
Opinions are based on evidence and knowledge.
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Don’t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
The closest is a STFU...
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Lu
2017-03-15 00:53:08 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news
sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts together a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig.
A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Wild guess are frowned upon.
Opinions are based on evidence and knowledge.
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Don’t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
The closest is a STFU...
LOL agreed.
Enquiring minds want to know
2017-03-15 23:54:03 UTC
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:51:40 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts together a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig.
A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Wild guess are frowned upon.
Opinions are based on evidence and knowledge.
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Very funny ... bob started the STFU thing.
Blame him.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Don’t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
Alternatively does myer-briggs have a type for an idiot that relies on
emotions and social conditioning for all their opinions?

What do you think all the organisations funded by George Soros are all
about? George soros spends billions organising dissent and chaos.

http://newstarget.com/2017-01-04-the-three-most-evil-globalists-alive-today-george-soros-jeff-bezos-and-bill-gates.html
"George Soros is a billionaire who enjoys funding revolutions and
fermenting dissent. According to Discoverthenetworks.com, he first
learned subterfuge as a teen by working with the Nazis. His billions
were made from hedge funds. Today, his main propaganda engine is the
Open Society Foundation (OSF), with offices in 70 nations. It is said
that Soros “today affects American politics and culture more
profoundly that any other living person.”

How does Soros do it? By funding journalism schools, social-welfare
programs, leftist agenda think tanks, religious organizations and
radical environmental views. According to Truthwiki.org, Soros was
involved in creating the Ebola virus in West Africa, was a strong
supporter and funder of Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton, gave $33
million to fund riots in Ferguson, Missouri and continues to give to
the Black Lives Matter movement."

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/04/baltimore-riots-product-of-soros-machine.html
"Indeed, George Soros has been heavily involved in the social unrest
and movement-wrecking activity that has taken place all across the
United States in recent months. From Florida to Ferguson and now to
Baltimore, George Soros’ Foundations have been involved in making sure
that not only are American citizens unable to overcome racial
divisions with mutual cooperation but that even the racially isolated
participants are unable to accomplish anything of substance. "

George Soros is a globalist tool.
The globalists take over by creating chaos, then engineer the solution
using propaganda. They use the mainstream media to create spin to
change people's opinions to what the globalist agenda wants.
Post by Bob Officer
The closest is a STFU...
--
Enquiring minds want to know

http://www.thebigcancerlie.com/
""As a retired physician, I can honestly say that unless you are in a
serious accident, your best chance of living to a ripe old age is to
avoid doctors and hospitals and learn nutrition, herbal medicine and
other forms of natural medicine unless you are fortunate enough to
have a naturopathic physician available." Dr Allan Greenberg

https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/autismenvironmental/
"When Director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute
Collins stated:- "Recent increases in chronic diseases like diabetes,
childhood asthma,
obesity or autism cannot be due to major shifts in the human gene pool
as those changes take much more time to occur."
The Newest Other Guy
2017-03-16 00:37:41 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 10:54:03 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Alternatively does myer-briggs have a type for an idiot that relies on
emotions and social conditioning for all their opinions?
IF they did, it would be you.
Bob Officer
2017-03-16 03:54:59 UTC
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Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:51:40 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts together a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig.
A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Wild guess are frowned upon.
Opinions are based on evidence and knowledge.
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Very funny ... bob started the STFU thing.
Blame him.
Actually it started a long time ago, Carole, you never seem to take good
advice.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Don’t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
Alternatively does myer-briggs have a type for an idiot that relies on
emotions and social conditioning for all their opinions?
It would a CIDU: Carole, Idiot down under
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
What do you think all the organisations funded by George <snip>
Carole changing the subject isn't going to work this time.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Enquiring minds want to know
2017-03-17 00:01:36 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:54:59 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:51:40 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies ?buy? positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts together a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig.
A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Wild guess are frowned upon.
Opinions are based on evidence and knowledge.
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Very funny ... bob started the STFU thing.
Blame him.
Actually it started a long time ago, Carole, you never seem to take good
advice.
Unlike yourself who unwaveringly takes the advice from "experts and
reliable sources".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Don?t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
Alternatively does myer-briggs have a type for an idiot that relies on
emotions and social conditioning for all their opinions?
It would a CIDU: Carole, Idiot down under
Not familiar with that acronym.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
What do you think all the organisations funded by George <snip>
Carole changing the subject isn't going to work this time.
What is the topic again bob ... Do you even know what the topic is?

What I'm saying is why the touchie-feelie types in this ng, fall for
so much propaganda.
George Soros gives big donations to all the leftie agitator groups
which causes constant chaos. You get all these groups agitating
constantly against this and that, global warming, all do-gooder causes
- all being funded by Soros.

Its not true democracy, its just rabble rousing.
The illuminati MO is order out of chaos.
First they create chaos then they insert their solution / agenda which
is for more laws, more clamping down on everybody and everything, take
over of society.


--
Enquiring minds want to know

The pharmaceutical industry is based on myths and lies
http://www.pharmamyths.net/

Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://www.pharmamyths.net/files/JLME_ARTICLE_2013.pdf

Big Pharma Pockets $711 Billion in Profits by Price-Gouging Taxpayers
and Seniors
http://healthcareforamericanow.org/2013/04/08/pharma-711-billion-profits-price-gouging-seniors/

Pharmaceutical Companies Spent 19 Times More On Self-Promotion Than
Basic Research: Report
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/pharmaceutical-companies-marketing_n_1760380.html
The Newest Other Guy
2017-03-17 01:11:41 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 11:01:36 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Actually it started a long time ago, Carole, you never seem to take good
advice.
Unlike yourself who unwaveringly takes the advice from "experts and
reliable sources".
The WORST PART of that claim is that you
DON'T recognize HOW FUCKING STUPID it is.

People who accept advice from bad sources
DON'T get good or acceptable results.
Bob Officer
2017-03-19 18:59:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 11:01:36 +1100, Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Actually it started a long time ago, Carole, you never seem to take good
advice.
Unlike yourself who unwaveringly takes the advice from "experts and
reliable sources".
The WORST PART of that claim is that you
DON'T recognize HOW FUCKING STUPID it is.
People who accept advice from bad sources
DON'T get good or acceptable results.
Total failure time after time to do any followup reading just verifies she
is the CIDU? She blindly repeated a lie by Bolen recently without doing a
minimum attempt to checking for validity of his claim.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
kaye
2017-03-19 18:11:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:54:59 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:51:40 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies ?buy? positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts together a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig.
A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Wild guess are frowned upon.
Opinions are based on evidence and knowledge.
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Very funny ... bob started the STFU thing.
Blame him.
Actually it started a long time ago, Carole, you never seem to take good
advice.
Unlike yourself who unwaveringly takes the advice from "experts and
reliable sources".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Don?t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
Alternatively does myer-briggs have a type for an idiot that relies on
emotions and social conditioning for all their opinions?
It would a CIDU: Carole, Idiot down under
Not familiar with that acronym.
Look again Carole. It's spelled out right there for you. CIDU: Carole,
Idiot Down Under.

Kaye
Bob Officer
2017-03-19 18:50:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by kaye
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:54:59 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:51:40 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies ?buy? positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts together a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig.
A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Wild guess are frowned upon.
Opinions are based on evidence and knowledge.
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Very funny ... bob started the STFU thing.
Blame him.
Actually it started a long time ago, Carole, you never seem to take good
advice.
Unlike yourself who unwaveringly takes the advice from "experts and
reliable sources".
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Don?t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
Alternatively does myer-briggs have a type for an idiot that relies on
emotions and social conditioning for all their opinions?
It would a CIDU: Carole, Idiot down under
Not familiar with that acronym.
Look again Carole. It's spelled out right there for you. CIDU: Carole,
Idiot Down Under.
Don't you like how she just proved my point.

Her type is CIDU.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Bob Officer
2017-03-19 18:50:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:54:59 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:51:40 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies ?buy? positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts together a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig.
A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Wild guess are frowned upon.
Opinions are based on evidence and knowledge.
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Very funny ... bob started the STFU thing.
Blame him.
Actually it started a long time ago, Carole, you never seem to take good
advice.
Unlike yourself who unwaveringly takes the advice from "experts and
reliable sources".
No Carole unlike you have the required back ground of knowledge to
determine what is reliable and correct because I funny understand the
processes involved. I have a solid background in chemistry, math, physics,
biology and anatomy. All background knowledge which you lack.

Using that background knowledge allows me to decide how reliable any expert
or source is. I do not simply accept what someone says is true I look for
independent studies of verifications or experimental verification.
I understand how valid studies are done, something you seem to lack.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Don?t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
Alternatively does myer-briggs have a type for an idiot that relies on
emotions and social conditioning for all their opinions?
It would a CIDU: Carole, Idiot down under
Not familiar with that acronym.
I explained it... thanks for verification.

CIDU: Carole, Idiot Down Under
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
What do you think all the organisations funded by George <snip>
Carole changing the subject isn't going to work this time.
What is the topic again bob ... Do you even know what the topic is?
I do. You attempted to change the subject of discussion.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
What I'm saying is why the touchie-feelie types in this ng, fall for
so much propaganda.
And tacit isn't going,to,happen, after all your type is CIDU
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
--
Enquiring minds want to know
The pharmaceutical industry is based on myths and lies
http://www.pharmamyths.net/
Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://www.pharmamyths.net/files/JLME_ARTICLE_2013.pdf
Big Pharma Pockets $711 Billion in Profits by Price-Gouging Taxpayers
and Seniors
http://healthcareforamericanow.org/2013/04/08/pharma-711-billion-profits-price-gouging-seniors/
Pharmaceutical Companies Spent 19 Times More On Self-Promotion Than
Basic Research: Report
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/pharmaceutical-companies-marketing_n_1760380.html
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Duncan
2017-03-27 01:01:26 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 18:50:21 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:54:59 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:51:40 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies ?buy? positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts together a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig.
A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Wild guess are frowned upon.
Opinions are based on evidence and knowledge.
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Very funny ... bob started the STFU thing.
Blame him.
Actually it started a long time ago, Carole, you never seem to take good
advice.
Unlike yourself who unwaveringly takes the advice from "experts and
reliable sources".
No Carole unlike you have the required back ground of knowledge to
determine what is reliable and correct because I funny understand the
processes involved. I have a solid background in chemistry, math, physics,
biology and anatomy. All background knowledge which you lack.
I don't think that your background in topics you mention would be deep
enough to determine any medical issues.
Post by Bob Officer
Using that background knowledge allows me to decide how reliable any expert
or source is. I do not simply accept what someone says is true I look for
independent studies of verifications or experimental verification.
I understand how valid studies are done, something you seem to lack.
Using your background allows you to do nothing meaningful.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Don?t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
Alternatively does myer-briggs have a type for an idiot that relies on
emotions and social conditioning for all their opinions?
It would a CIDU: Carole, Idiot down under
Not familiar with that acronym.
I explained it... thanks for verification.
CIDU: Carole, Idiot Down Under
Very scientific bob.
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
What do you think all the organisations funded by George <snip>
Carole changing the subject isn't going to work this time.
What is the topic again bob ... Do you even know what the topic is?
I do. You attempted to change the subject of discussion.
What is the topic bob?
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
What I'm saying is why the touchie-feelie types in this ng, fall for
so much propaganda.
And tacit isn't going,to,happen, after all your type is CIDU
Do you mean "tactic" bob?


Poor bob, thinks he is a medical expert because he can read a study.
We all know that so many studies can't be repeated, and we also know
that big pharma manipulates studies like with VIOXX, which was
approved by FDA but still killed 65,000.

Wake up bob, oh that's right you haven't got the rationality gene.



--
Duncan

"Consensus is not a scientific term. It is a political term." (Ed. The
Climate Skeptics (TCS) Blog)
Post by Bob Officer
[BOB] "Beliefs are not opinions."
I think you will find that "belief" is a synonym for "opinion".
So WTF are you trying to say idiot?
[BOB] "I stand by what I said in context. A belief is
something held true with or without supporting
evidence or in the face of contradictory evidence.

An opinion is based on what one thinks and not what
one believes. Ones religion is what one believes.
Religion requires no thinking and in many cases
Religion forbids thinking.

While you might believe their are interchangeable
synonyms, I think if you asked an expert in the
English Language they might agree with me. The
words have different meanings and uses."
--------

">I didn't know there was a requirement to generate topics. Where did
Post by Bob Officer
you get that idiotic idea from. " -- Bob Officer
DK: Bob Officer is a member of the group I
DK; accurately describe as...
PSEUDO-SKEPTIC-FANATICS (PSF)
http://www.psicounsel.com/bobofficer.html

kaye
2017-03-19 18:11:56 UTC
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:51:40 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts together a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig.
A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Wild guess are frowned upon.
Opinions are based on evidence and knowledge.
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Very funny ... bob started the STFU thing.
Blame him.
No, Bob didn't. That was me. You're welcome. 😂. I thought you would
appreciate the assessment, since you like to take that test for other
people and assign them what you believe they should be classified as,
according to your answers.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Don’t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
Alternatively does myer-briggs have a type for an idiot that relies on
emotions and social conditioning for all their opinions?
What do you think all the organisations funded by George Soros are all
about? George soros spends billions organising dissent and chaos.
http://newstarget.com/2017-01-04-the-three-most-evil-globalists-alive-today-george-soros-jeff-bezos-and-bill-gates.html
"George Soros is a billionaire who enjoys funding revolutions and
fermenting dissent. According to Discoverthenetworks.com, he first
learned subterfuge as a teen by working with the Nazis. His billions
were made from hedge funds. Today, his main propaganda engine is the
Open Society Foundation (OSF), with offices in 70 nations. It is said
that Soros “today affects American politics and culture more
profoundly that any other living person.”
How does Soros do it? By funding journalism schools, social-welfare
programs, leftist agenda think tanks, religious organizations and
radical environmental views. According to Truthwiki.org, Soros was
involved in creating the Ebola virus in West Africa, was a strong
supporter and funder of Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton, gave $33
million to fund riots in Ferguson, Missouri and continues to give to
the Black Lives Matter movement."
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/04/baltimore-riots-product-of-soros-machine.html
"Indeed, George Soros has been heavily involved in the social unrest
and movement-wrecking activity that has taken place all across the
United States in recent months. From Florida to Ferguson and now to
Baltimore, George Soros’ Foundations have been involved in making sure
that not only are American citizens unable to overcome racial
divisions with mutual cooperation but that even the racially isolated
participants are unable to accomplish anything of substance. "
George Soros is a globalist tool.
The globalists take over by creating chaos, then engineer the solution
using propaganda. They use the mainstream media to create spin to
change people's opinions to what the globalist agenda wants.
Post by Bob Officer
The closest is a STFU...
--
Enquiring minds want to know
http://www.thebigcancerlie.com/
""As a retired physician, I can honestly say that unless you are in a
serious accident, your best chance of living to a ripe old age is to
avoid doctors and hospitals and learn nutrition, herbal medicine and
other forms of natural medicine unless you are fortunate enough to
have a naturopathic physician available." Dr Allan Greenberg
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/autismenvironmental/
"When Director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute
Collins stated:- "Recent increases in chronic diseases like diabetes,
childhood asthma,
obesity or autism cannot be due to major shifts in the human gene pool
as those changes take much more time to occur."
Bob Officer
2017-03-19 18:59:12 UTC
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Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 05:51:40 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Applying logic negates intuition.
That's my own understanding of what the words mean.
So I wonder what meaning she was trying to convey?
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
Easier and she prefers the warped view of what goes on in USA as self defense
against her own poor living conditions. Makes her feel she is better off.
Exactly. She doesn't understand the sciences and the rolls individuals
play?
An archeologist digs up things, and becomes an expert at documenting where
things were found. A paleontologist is an expert at assessing what is found
and puts together a model and what meaning one can impart from the dig.
A
historian doesn't dig but often works with an archeologist along side a
sociologist and they put together a model,and possible explanation and
meaning of what was found.
An educated opinion! All educated opinions, based on knowledge and the
evidence before them.
Wild guess are frowned upon.
Opinions are based on evidence and knowledge.
Post by Lu
Post by Bob Officer
Today most people will confuse the job of an archeologist and a tomb
looter.
Often times at a dig a person will wear more than one hat.
I doubt Carole even has a glimmer of who does what and has the warped
opinion her kitchen experiments are some sort of science.
I found it funny reading Kaye's comment about Carole's Myers-Briggs
category. STFU
Very funny ... bob started the STFU thing.
Blame him.
No, Bob didn't. That was me. You're welcome. 😂. I thought you would
appreciate the assessment, since you like to take that test for other
people and assign them what you believe they should be classified as,
according to your answers.
However I claim putting the label of CIDU to her she has been called
Carole, Idiot Down Under by me for years.
Post by kaye
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Don’t remember or missed it. Damn. Does Myers-Briggs have a category/type
for a lying wannabe who is an identity thief? A know it all who only sees
half the picture?
Alternatively does myer-briggs have a type for an idiot that relies on
emotions and social conditioning for all their opinions?
What do you think all the organisations funded by George Soros are all
about? George soros spends billions organising dissent and chaos.
http://newstarget.com/2017-01-04-the-three-most-evil-globalists-alive-today-george-soros-jeff-bezos-and-bill-gates.html
"George Soros is a billionaire who enjoys funding revolutions and
fermenting dissent. According to Discoverthenetworks.com, he first
learned subterfuge as a teen by working with the Nazis. His billions
were made from hedge funds. Today, his main propaganda engine is the
Open Society Foundation (OSF), with offices in 70 nations. It is said
that Soros “today affects American politics and culture more
profoundly that any other living person.”
How does Soros do it? By funding journalism schools, social-welfare
programs, leftist agenda think tanks, religious organizations and
radical environmental views. According to Truthwiki.org, Soros was
involved in creating the Ebola virus in West Africa, was a strong
supporter and funder of Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton, gave $33
million to fund riots in Ferguson, Missouri and continues to give to
the Black Lives Matter movement."
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/04/baltimore-riots-product-of-soros-machine.html
"Indeed, George Soros has been heavily involved in the social unrest
and movement-wrecking activity that has taken place all across the
United States in recent months. From Florida to Ferguson and now to
Baltimore, George Soros’ Foundations have been involved in making sure
that not only are American citizens unable to overcome racial
divisions with mutual cooperation but that even the racially isolated
participants are unable to accomplish anything of substance. "
George Soros is a globalist tool.
The globalists take over by creating chaos, then engineer the solution
using propaganda. They use the mainstream media to create spin to
change people's opinions to what the globalist agenda wants.
Post by Bob Officer
The closest is a STFU...
--
Enquiring minds want to know
http://www.thebigcancerlie.com/
""As a retired physician, I can honestly say that unless you are in a
serious accident, your best chance of living to a ripe old age is to
avoid doctors and hospitals and learn nutrition, herbal medicine and
other forms of natural medicine unless you are fortunate enough to
have a naturopathic physician available." Dr Allan Greenberg
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/autismenvironmental/
"When Director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute
Collins stated:- "Recent increases in chronic diseases like diabetes,
childhood asthma,
obesity or autism cannot be due to major shifts in the human gene pool
as those changes take much more time to occur."
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Enquiring minds want to know
2017-03-15 23:39:49 UTC
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 02:31:30 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
That should have been "basic logic insight" ie as a natural default.
Most people just go along with what they're conditioned to think.



" Conspirators' Hierarchy: The story of the Committee of 300
By Dr John Coleman
Opinion-makers have played no-small-part in this war on the United
States; we need to examine the role of the Committee of 300 in
bringing-about these far-reaching changes and how the social-engineers
have used central-systems-analyses to keep public-opinion from
expressing anything other than the policies of the invisible
government. How and where did it all begin?
From documents covering the First World War that I was able to gather
and examine in the War Office in Whitehall, London, it appears that
the Royal Institute for International Affairs was commissioned by the
Committee of 300 to do a study of manipulating war-information. This
task was given to Lord Northcliffe and Lord Rothmere and Arnold
Toynbee, who was MI6's agent at the RIIA. Lord Rothmere's family owned
a newspaper which was used to support various government positions, so
it was thought that the paper could change public-perceptions,
especially among the ranks of growing opposition to the war.
The project was housed in Wellington House, named after the Duke of
Wellesly. American specialists drafted to help Lords Rothmere and
Northcliffe included Edward Bernays and Walter Lippmann. The group
held "brain storming" sessions to work-out techniques for mobilizing
mass-support for the war, especially among the working-class people
whose sons were expected to go to the slaughter-fields of Flanders in
record-numbers.
Using Lord Rothmere's newspaper, new manipulative techniques were
tried-out and, after a period of about 6 months, it was apparent that
they were a success. What the researchers discovered was that only a
very small group of people understood the process of reasoning and the
ability to observe the problem as opposed to passing an opinion on it.
This, said Lord Rothmere, was the way in which 87% of the British
public approached the war, and that the same principle applied not
only to the war, but to every conceivable problem in society in
general.
In this manner, irrationality was elevated to a high level of
public-consciousness. The manipulators then played-upon this to
undermine and distract the public's grasp of reality governing any
given situation and, the more complex the problems of a modern
industrial society became, the easier it became to bring greater and
greater distractions to bear, so that what we ended-up-with was that
the absolutely-inconsequential-opinions of masses of people, created
by skilled-manipulators, assumed the position of scientific-fact.
Having literally stumbled upon so profound a conclusion, the
manipulators put it to one test after another during the war, so that
in spite of hundreds of thousands of the youth of Britain being
slaughtered on the battlefields of France, there was virtually no
opposition to the bloody war. Records of the time show that by 1917,
just before the United States entered the war, 94% of the British
working-class bearing the brunt of the war did not have the faintest
idea what they were fighting for, other than the image created by the
media-manipulators that the Germans were a horrible race, bent upon
destroying their monarch and their country, and who had to be wiped
off the face of the earth.
Certainly nothing has changed because, in 1991, we had the exact same
situation created by the news-media which allowed President Bush to
flagrantly violate the Constitution in waging a war-of-genocide
against the nation of Iraq with the full consent of 87% of the
American people.
On instructions from President Wilson, or rather Colonel House, the
Creel Commission was created and, as far as can be ascertained, the
Creel Commission was the first organization in the United States to
use the RIIA techniques and methodology for polling and
mass-propaganda. The psychological-warfare experiments perfected at
Wellington House were used in the Second World War with equal success,
and have been in continuous use in the massive psychological-war
against the United States which began in 1946. The methods did not
change, only the target. Now it was not German worker-housing but the
middle class of the United States that became the focus of the attack.
As so often happens, the conspirators could not contain their glee.
After WW I, in 1922 to be precise, Lippmann detailed the work done by
the RIIA in a book he called "PUBLIC OPINION":
"Public opinion deals with indirect, unseen and puzzling facts, and
there is nothing obvious about them. The situations to which public
opinion refers are known only as opinions, pictures inside heads of
human+beings, pictures of themselves, of others, of their needs,
purposes and relationships, are their public-opinions. These pictures
which are acted-upon by groups of people, or by individuals acting in
the name of groups are PUBLIC OPINION with capital letters. The
picture inside the head often misleads men in their dealings with the
world outside of their heads." "
Post by Bob Officer
I tried to figure out what "basic logic intuition" was and still haven't
figured that out. Logic is learned system of thinking, it isn't intuitional
at all. Logic the process by trying to eliminating the personal bias and
intuitional and instinctual reactions.
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
know the difference. However, there are some people who look for cause
and effect, which the msm doesn't supply. Its just top-down
information like the dossier which said Iraq had wmd.
People have been fed lies and spin from all sides - msm, science,
archeology, economics - the lot.
You're an idiot.
Speak for yourself.
She would rather listen to Murdoch news and read her national inquirer and
supermarket checkout rags.
--
Enquiring minds want to know

http://www.thebigcancerlie.com/
""As a retired physician, I can honestly say that unless you are in a
serious accident, your best chance of living to a ripe old age is to
avoid doctors and hospitals and learn nutrition, herbal medicine and
other forms of natural medicine unless you are fortunate enough to
have a naturopathic physician available." Dr Allan Greenberg

https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/autismenvironmental/
"When Director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute
Collins stated:- "Recent increases in chronic diseases like diabetes,
childhood asthma,
obesity or autism cannot be due to major shifts in the human gene pool
as those changes take much more time to occur."

'The corporation' (2003) quotes
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379225/quotes


Do conspiracies exist?
http://theupliftingcrane.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/1/

33 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True, What Every Person
Should Know ...
http://www.infowars.com/33-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true-what-every-person-should-know/

MEDIA MIND CONTROL , DISINFORMATION AND ATTACKS
http://www.arkenterprises.com/disinfo.html

Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation
http://www.pnl-nlp.org/download/propaganda/page4.htm

Plausible deniability
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability
"The term most often refers to the capacity of senior officials in a
formal or informal chain of command to deny knowledge of and/or
responsibility for any damnable actions ..."


"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly
limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate
within that spectrum." -- Noam Chomsky
“Conspiracy” = An agreement between two or more persons to commit a
crime. An illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

“Know thy enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles, you will
never be defeated. When you are ignorant of the enemy but know
yourself, your chances of winning or losing are equal. If ignorant
both of your enemy and of yourself, you are sure to be defeated in
every battle.” ~ Sun Tzu, Chinese General

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet
it was planned that way." ---Franklin D. Roosevelt
Bob Officer
2017-03-16 03:55:00 UTC
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 02:31:30 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Post by Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies “buy” positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
That should have been "basic logic insight" ie as a natural default.
Most people just go along with what they're conditioned to think.
That would be you?
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Enquiring minds want to know
2017-03-17 00:06:12 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:55:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 02:31:30 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies ?buy? positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
That should have been "basic logic insight" ie as a natural default.
Most people just go along with what they're conditioned to think.
That would be you?
We're all conditioned to go along with things, like pharmaceutical
drugs are great, like war is a necessary evil, islam is evil /
christianity is good, so many things. Its social conditioning - people
don't know what to think without consulting "experts" and "reliable
sources". But so often these experts have risen to the top because
they go along with the propaganda and don't rock the boat. They're not
always reliable.

--
Enquiring minds want to know

The pharmaceutical industry is based on myths and lies
http://www.pharmamyths.net/

Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://www.pharmamyths.net/files/JLME_ARTICLE_2013.pdf

Big Pharma Pockets $711 Billion in Profits by Price-Gouging Taxpayers
and Seniors
http://healthcareforamericanow.org/2013/04/08/pharma-711-billion-profits-price-gouging-seniors/

Pharmaceutical Companies Spent 19 Times More On Self-Promotion Than
Basic Research: Report
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/pharmaceutical-companies-marketing_n_1760380.html
Lu
2017-03-20 12:59:04 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:55:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 02:31:30 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies ?buy? positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news
sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
That should have been "basic logic insight" ie as a natural default.
Most people just go along with what they're conditioned to think.
That would be you?
We're all conditioned to go along with things, like pharmaceutical
drugs are great, like war is a necessary evil, islam is evil /
christianity is good, so many things. Its social conditioning - people
don't know what to think without consulting "experts" and "reliable
sources". But so often these experts have risen to the top because
they go along with the propaganda and don't rock the boat. They're not
always reliable.
You and your posts
are living proof that we are NOT conditioned to go along with thing.
Bob Officer
2017-03-21 15:12:22 UTC
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Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:55:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 02:31:30 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies ?buy? positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
That should have been "basic logic insight" ie as a natural default.
Most people just go along with what they're conditioned to think.
That would be you?
We're all conditioned to go along with things, like pharmaceutical
drugs are great, like war is a necessary evil, islam is evil /
christianity is good, so many things. Its social conditioning - people
don't know what to think without consulting "experts" and "reliable
sources". But so often these experts have risen to the top because
they go along with the propaganda and don't rock the boat. They're not
always reliable.
You and your posts
are living proof that we are NOT conditioned to go along with thing.
Sadly there are those which have the tools to properly question and test
information, and those which are just rejectionist, loud mouth bullies.

Nearly each point Carole has tried to make has been refuted or debunked.
She refuses to admit she was ever wrong and like the people Cheese talks
about in his short video, will refuse to gather the tools to question or
test information.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity
http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU
Enquiring minds want to know
2017-03-26 22:20:22 UTC
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:12:22 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Lu
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:55:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Bob Officer
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 02:31:30 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
Post by Lu
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:20:05 -0800, The Newest Other Guy
Post by The Newest Other Guy
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:26:31 +1100, Dodgy is as dodgy does
Drug companies ?buy? positive research results,
Your ASSERTION, with NO proof, other than alternative (FAKE) news sites.
The fake news is msm (mainstream media) who have been lying for years.
Nothing they say makes any sense, its all spin and lies.
Nobody gets any wiser from reading their crap, just more confused
because it doesn't add up.
Speak for yourself.
Post by Enquiring minds want to know
But then for people who don't have basic logic intuition you wouldn't
That should have been "basic logic insight" ie as a natural default.
Most people just go along with what they're conditioned to think.
That would be you?
We're all conditioned to go along with things, like pharmaceutical
drugs are great, like war is a necessary evil, islam is evil /
christianity is good, so many things. Its social conditioning - people
don't know what to think without consulting "experts" and "reliable
sources". But so often these experts have risen to the top because
they go along with the propaganda and don't rock the boat. They're not
always reliable.
You and your posts
are living proof that we are NOT conditioned to go along with thing.
Sadly there are those which have the tools to properly question and test
information, and those which are just rejectionist, loud mouth bullies.
Nearly each point Carole has tried to make has been refuted or debunked.
She refuses to admit she was ever wrong and like the people Cheese talks
about in his short video, will refuse to gather the tools to question or
test information.
No bob, every point you make has been debunked but you just keep on
keeping on. That's irrationality in anybody's language.



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Enquiring minds want to know

The pharmaceutical industry is based on myths and lies
http://www.pharmamyths.net/

Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and
Effective Drugs
http://www.pharmamyths.net/files/JLME_ARTICLE_2013.pdf

Big Pharma Pockets $711 Billion in Profits by Price-Gouging Taxpayers
and Seniors
http://healthcareforamericanow.org/2013/04/08/pharma-711-billion-profits-price-gouging-seniors/

Pharmaceutical Companies Spent 19 Times More On Self-Promotion Than
Basic Research: Report
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/pharmaceutical-companies-marketing_n_1760380.html
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