The terribly hungry are in danger of misbehaving terribly ...

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-09-27 18:17:29 UTC

... and blaspheming against the Holy Spirit, thereby losing their
salvation as their names are blotted from the LORD's Book of Life as
has happened to Ananias and Sapphira (excess food is purchased with
extra money). They of their own free choice jumped out of GOD's hands
to their destruction and eternal condemnation. No one took them out of
His hands.

Indeed, those who knowingly lie before those of us, who are in the
Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth, thereby blaspheming against
Him, will never be forgiven just as Ananias and Sapphira will never be
forgiven. Instead, they will also be cast into the lake of fire that
is being prepared for satan and his children to their eternal torment.

"Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these
events." (Acts 5:11)

"Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in
hell." (Matthew 20:28)

Therefore, they (Acts 5:11) were not afraid of their bodies being
killed but their souls also being destroyed in hell (Matthew 20:28),
which is that eternal lake of fire that torments forever.

To write that the Holy Spirit is a religious delusion is to blaspheme
against Him.

"Those who blaspheme against Me will not be forgiven" -- Holy Spirit
(Mark 3:29)

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Z4Hf_k4uyms/CIfVpi6EAQAJ

Rod, It would be so very easy to show why I feel, but as the Bible is
silent on Ananias & Sapphira other than they died ...

Incorrect.
"Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these
events." (Acts 5:11)
"Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in
hell." (Matthew 20:28)
Therefore, they (Acts 5:11) were not afraid of their bodies being
killed but their souls also being destroyed in hell (Matthew 20:28),
which is that eternal lake of fire that torments forever.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Z4Hf_k4uyms/QkEMkBanBgAJ
Those who knowingly lie to those of us, who are in the Holy Spirit,
have blasphemed against the Holy Spirit, with the consequence of
losing their salvation which means their names are blotted from the
LORD's Book of Life.
"The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I
will never blot out the name of that person from the Book of Life, but
will acknowledge that name before My Father and His angels."
(Revelation 3:5)
Ananias and Sapphira were clearly **not** victorious in being struck
down dead by GOD for lying before those in the Holy Spirit.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD
continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned,
**and** your entire household, more than ever in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/6pIJkYfEKCY/F3OSqMR_AQAJ

Warning, sightwalker mixing unrelated facts to make up its own narrative
as it feels it should be if he were God ...

... more blaspheming against the Holy Spirit:

(1) To write that HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, is a
"sightwalker" is writing that the Holy Spirit can be seen by "sight"
which is blaspheming against Him.

(2) To write that HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, suffers from
the delusion that he is GOD, is writing that the Holy Spirit is not
the Spirit of a sound (2 Timothy 1:7) mind, which is again blaspheming
against Him.

(3) Calling the Holy Spirit an "it" is blaspheming against Him.

While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that
GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned, and your entire **extended** household, more than ever in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ

CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J

I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J

Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

Miloch

2017-09-27 20:03:06 UTC

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In article <***@4ax.com>, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
says...

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
... and blaspheming against the Holy Spirit, thereby losing their
salvation as their names are blotted from the LORD's Book of Life as
has happened to Ananias and Sapphira (excess food is purchased with
extra money). They of their own free choice jumped out of GOD's hands
to their destruction and eternal condemnation. No one took them out of
His hands.
Amen.
HeartDoc Andrew <><

What you are, Chung, is not someone who is "wonderfully hungry"...you're an
idiot who writes lloooonnnnggg disjointed posts that run on and on ad ad
nauseam...& the Almighty will punish you for it!

You really need to cut down on the "torment and blasphemy" and concentrate on
sentence structure how to post effectively.

*

Jimmy Alpha GeD

2017-09-28 08:30:17 UTC

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Post by Miloch
says...

What you are, Chung, is not someone who is "wonderfully hungry"...you're an
idiot who writes lloooonnnnggg disjointed posts that run on and on ad ad
nauseam...& the Almighty will punish you for it!
You really need to cut down on the "torment and blasphemy" and concentrate on
sentence structure how to post effectively.

Boys at the pub think a good booze-up, even Tillie thinks so, but with a
side order of nookie to go!

Miloch

2017-09-27 23:31:55 UTC

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Post by Jimmy Alpha GeD

Post by Miloch
says...

What you are, Chung, is not someone who is "wonderfully hungry"...you're an
idiot who writes lloooonnnnggg disjointed posts that run on and on ad ad
nauseam...& the Almighty will punish you for it!
You really need to cut down on the "torment and blasphemy" and concentrate on
sentence structure how to post effectively.

Boys at the pub think a good booze-up, even Tillie thinks so, but with a
side order of nookie to go!

When you're popping the tab on that can of Pabst Blue Ribbon, consider that for
all we know, God could be female...with a vagina...you know...a twat.

Try wrapping your brain cortex around that idea!...then have a nip of "Johnnie
Walker".

go Warriors!

*

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-09-28 00:54:29 UTC

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Rod, It would be so very easy to show why I feel, but as the Bible is
silent on Ananias & Sapphira other than they died ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/6pIJkYfEKCY/F3OSqMR_AQAJ

Warning, sightwalker mixing unrelated facts to make up its own narrative
as it feels it should be if he were God ...

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

I forgive you.

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

I'm sorry ...

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Markea Berry ...

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

2017-09-29 15:55:23 UTC

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Rod, It would be so very easy to show why I feel, but as the Bible is
silent on Ananias & Sapphira other than they died ...

Incorrect.

Sorry sightwalker, no one respects you for wanting to rewrite the Bible
in your mad image, go back to pitching your dangerous fad diets you sold
to the hatstands you called patients. Also, before you tell others how
they should live their lives perhaps you should set an example and get
your house in order. You are seen as someone who made a waste of a great
education, shamed your family, and made yourself the laughingstock of
your peers that I'm sure knew but also hoped you'd fail because of your
arrogance.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-09-29 03:32:31 UTC

Permalink

Rod, It would be so very easy to show why I feel, but as the Bible is
silent on Ananias & Sapphira other than they died ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/6pIJkYfEKCY/F3OSqMR_AQAJ

Warning, sightwalker mixing unrelated facts to make up its own narrative
as it feels it should be if he were God ...

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

I forgive you.

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

I'm sorry ...

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Markea Berry ...

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-09-29 04:25:07 UTC

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Rod, It would be so very easy to show why I feel, but as the Bible is
silent on Ananias & Sapphira other than they died ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/6pIJkYfEKCY/F3OSqMR_AQAJ

Warning, sightwalker mixing unrelated facts to make up its own narrative
as it feels it should be if he were God ...

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

I forgive you.

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

I'm sorry ...

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Markea Berry ...

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

2017-09-29 15:31:41 UTC

Permalink

Rod, It would be so very easy to show why I feel, but as the Bible is
silent on Ananias & Sapphira other than they died ...

Incorrect.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-09-29 04:36:26 UTC

Permalink

Rod, It would be so very easy to show why I feel, but as the Bible is
silent on Ananias & Sapphira other than they died ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/6pIJkYfEKCY/F3OSqMR_AQAJ

Warning, sightwalker mixing unrelated facts to make up its own narrative
as it feels it should be if he were God ...

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

I forgive you.

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

I'm sorry ...

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Markea Berry ...

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

2017-09-29 15:48:30 UTC

Permalink

Rod, It would be so very easy to show why I feel, but as the Bible is
silent on Ananias & Sapphira other than they died ...

Incorrect.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-09-29 04:50:32 UTC

Permalink

Rod, It would be so very easy to show why I feel, but as the Bible is
silent on Ananias & Sapphira other than they died ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/6pIJkYfEKCY/F3OSqMR_AQAJ

Warning, sightwalker mixing unrelated facts to make up its own narrative
as it feels it should be if he were God ...

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

I forgive you.

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

I'm sorry ...

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Markea Berry ...

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-09-27 22:07:00 UTC

Permalink

Rod, It would be so very easy to show why I feel, but as the Bible is
silent on Ananias & Sapphira other than they died ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/6pIJkYfEKCY/F3OSqMR_AQAJ

Warning, sightwalker mixing unrelated facts to make up its own narrative
as it feels it should be if he were God ...

"You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit

You are in error.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts

Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

No according to Genesis 3:14

i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day

Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
until satan entered into him.

asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
that 'satan' has entered into anyone.

Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.

i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.

Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
against Him.

not that i have done so

Actually you have.

, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
responders to the treatment.

50% cure rate is pretty impressive.

The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
confidence in the results.

In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

Sometimes

Invariably means always.

, but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

, means even a small amount is "rises",
no?

I forgive you.

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each
otherinstead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented
by the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi
1:2-3) for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

I'm sorry ...

not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Markea Berry ...

"Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

Gys de Jongh

2017-09-27 22:26:10 UTC

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Post by Miloch
says...

What you are, Chung, is not someone who is "wonderfully hungry"...you're an
idiot who writes lloooonnnnggg disjointed posts that run on and on ad ad
nauseam...& the Almighty will punish you for it!
You really need to cut down on the "torment and blasphemy" and concentrate on
sentence structure how to post effectively.

uh, Ok
we will see what we can do for you

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-09-27 23:47:41 UTC

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<http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/can-a-low-calorie-diet-reverse-diabetes/>
Can a Low-Calorie Diet Reverse Diabetes?
In study, 40 percent of adults with type 2 diabetes achieved a fasting
glucose level of less than 126mg/dL.(7mmol/L) after eight weeks on a
very low-calorie diet.

Hello Gys,
I have not posted in a long time but have been reading all the posts not
on my "kill" list.
I would like to comment on this study. I do not doubt that their
findings are valid. However, they did not do a long term study. Long
term, almost no one will continue a diet of calorie restriction. It just
finally gets to people and they have had enough of being hungry all the
time.

<snip>

You can tell I don't have a high opinion of using calorie restriction as
a way of treating type 2 or just trying to lose weight for other reasons
of health or vanity. Although the idea sounds good, very very few people
can continue this low calorie diet as a strategy for a lifetime. Even
actors who depend on their looks to keep their job seem to fail at
calorie restriction eventually.

Hi Francher,
I agree, it's very difficult...

For the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry , it's more than very
difficult... it's impossible because they are addicted to the excess
food that they're consuming to kill their hunger (healthy appetite),
which means they're killing themselves.

I am, instead of being addicted to excess food, "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope you, Gys, also have a healthy
appetite too.

So how are you ?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-09-28 08:58:21 UTC

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<snip>

Hi Francher,
I agree, it's very difficult...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-09-29 09:52:18 UTC

Permalink

<snip>

Hi Francher,
I agree, it's very difficult...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-09-30 17:47:18 UTC

Permalink

<snip>

Hi Francher,
I agree, it's very difficult...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-10-01 09:13:53 UTC

Permalink

<snip>

Hi Francher,
I agree, it's very difficult...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-10-02 07:49:20 UTC

Permalink

<snip>

Hi Francher,
I agree, it's very difficult...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-10-03 09:56:29 UTC

Permalink

<snip>

Hi Francher,
I agree, it's very difficult...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-10-04 06:09:57 UTC

Permalink

<snip>

Hi Francher,
I agree, it's very difficult...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-10-05 08:35:52 UTC

Permalink

<snip>

Hi Francher,
I agree, it's very difficult...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2017-10-06 10:36:10 UTC

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<snip>

Hi Francher,
I agree, it's very difficult...

Don Roberto

2017-09-28 07:59:42 UTC

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Post by Gys de Jongh

Post by Miloch
says...

What you are, Chung, is not someone who is "wonderfully
hungry"...you're an
idiot who writes lloooonnnnggg disjointed posts that run on and on ad ad
nauseam...& the Almighty will punish you for it!
You really need to cut down on the "torment and blasphemy" and concentrate on
sentence structure how to post effectively.

uh, Ok
we will see what we can do for you

Heeding your master's call at last :-)

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