Candida: Oils

Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

Mary

Carole's Sentient Fungus

2015-10-29 17:28:04 UTC

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

Bob Officer

2015-10-29 21:19:45 UTC

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of-alternative-medicine-exaggeration/

--
Yep it is me, and Carole believes adding 2+2 can sometimes equal 3 or 5,
and getting wrong answers means you are thinking outside the box.

Anon

2015-10-30 18:07:55 UTC

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of-alternative-medicine-exaggeration/

A fungal infection can begin with one spore, which spores are floating
around in the environment everywhere. You can't escape from fungal
infections and while most people have immune systems that can handle
them, with others the fungus can become systematic which means it
infiltrates the body's defence system.

Bicarb is one of the effective treatments.

See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around the internet.

--
Anonymous

Propaganda - nobody does it better than America
By Paul Weber, 9th August 2002
http://tinyurl.com/d5xqmra [web archive]
"Over the years, I have had the privilege of meeting and having
discussions with people who came to America from countries known for
their adherence to totalitarianism: China, Russia, and former east
European satellites of the Soviet Union. When we discussed how the
state managed to control public opinion under totalitarianism, these
people would usually produce a weary, knowledgeable, cynical smile and
point out that propaganda in those countries was really done quite
incompetently.
If you really want to know propaganda, they said, you need to study
American propaganda technique. According to them, it is, undeniably,
the best in the world."

Carole's Sentient Fungus

2015-10-30 18:53:23 UTC

Post by Anon
A fungal infection can begin with one spore, which spores are floating
around in the environment everywhere. You can't escape from fungal
infections and while most people have immune systems that can handle
them, with others the fungus can become systematic which means it
infiltrates the body's defence system.
Bicarb is one of the effective treatments.

Bicarb is a treatment, ONLY if you ALL you want is to treat
your condition, rather than CURING it.

But that IS what you chose, Carole.

2015-10-31 02:26:11 UTC

On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
wrote
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of-alt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around the internet.
--
Anonymous
Propaganda - nobody does it better than America
By Paul Weber, 9th August 2002
http://tinyurl.com/d5xqmra [web archive]
"Over the years, I have had the privilege of meeting and having
discussions with people who came to America from countries known for
their adherence to totalitarianism: China, Russia, and former east
European satellites of the Soviet Union. When we discussed how the
state managed to control public opinion under totalitarianism, these
people would usually produce a weary, knowledgeable, cynical smile and
point out that propaganda in those countries was really done quite
incompetently.
If you really want to know propaganda, they said, you need to study
American propaganda technique. According to them, it is, undeniably,
the best in the world."

--
Lu

For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

Bob Officer

2015-10-31 03:27:06 UTC

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of-alt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.

http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

The odd thing is the Italian authorizes also want to see the former doctor.
It seems all his "studies" we're nothing but lies. Not one person treated
in any of his claimed trials has come forward.

He is wanted for conning the Italian government out of a few millions of
dollars and the deaths of a few 100 people.

Post by Lu
For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

--
Yep it is me, and Carole believes adding 2+2 can sometimes equal 3 or 5,
and getting wrong answers means you are thinking outside the box.

Anon

2015-10-31 14:07:22 UTC

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:27:06 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of-alt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

Who wants to know?

Post by Bob Officer
I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.
http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

Talking about systematic candida, this is where the fungus moves to
the inside of the body rather than external and becomes pathogenic in
that it is thought to be the cause in some circles, as the foreruner
to cancer. Simoncini says that cancer is a fungus, namely candida. I
wouldn't discount his hypothesis merely because mainstream doesn't
accept it. Mainstream has a lot at stake in maintaining the status
quo.

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

The odd thing is the Italian authorizes also want to see the former doctor.
It seems all his "studies" we're nothing but lies. Not one person treated
in any of his claimed trials has come forward.
He is wanted for conning the Italian government out of a few millions of
dollars and the deaths of a few 100 people.

A person has to take such information with a little scepticism since
it is mainstream MO to demonise and totally discredit any researcher
who doesn't go along with long-established and very profitable
protocols.
There is a lot of money at stake. They know how to deal with mavericks
and innovators who want to think outside the box and expose current
medical practice as a sham.

Post by Lu
For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

For Lu, get a brain - but this is hoping for a little too much.

--
Anonymous

Propaganda - nobody does it better than America
http://tinyurl.com/d5xqmra
"Over the years, I have had the privilege of meeting and having
discussions with people who came to America from countries known for
their adherence to totalitarianism: China, Russia, and former east
European satellites of the Soviet Union. When we discussed how the
state managed to control public opinion under totalitarianism, these
people would usually produce a weary, knowledgeable, cynical smile and
point out that propaganda in those countries was really done quite
incompetently.
If you really want to know propaganda, they said, you need to study
American propaganda technique. According to them, it is, undeniably,
the best in the world."

"The expatriates explained that bad propaganda uses obvious
terminology that anyone can see through. ...American propaganda,
however, is much cleverer. American propaganda, they patiently
explained, relies entirely on emotional appeals. It doesnt depend on
a rational theory that can be disproved: it appeals to things no one
can object to."

"American propaganda had its birth, so far as I can tell, in the
advertising industry. The pioneers of advertisinga truly loathsome
bunchlearned early on that people would respond to purely emotional
appeals. Abstract theory and logical argument do nothing to spur
sales. However, appeals to sexiness, to pride of ownership, to fear of
falling behind the neighbors are the stock in trade of advertising
executives."

Herb

2015-10-31 22:38:10 UTC

Post by Anon
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:27:06 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
wrote >>> (in article
You giving medical advice?

Who wants to know?

Everyone reading your posts.

The unauthorized practice of medicine occurs when someone gives
medical advice or treatment without a professional license.

The prohibition against the unauthorized practice of medicine is a
precaution against people who would try to treat others without the
proper training, or by using unproven methods which could harm or even
kill their supposed patient.

You have no qualification for giving medical advice, Carole.

Simoncini's hypothesis is just that: an unproven hypothesis,
unsupported by evidence.

As such, Simoncini's hypothesis is without merit as a remedy for
cancer.

Without citing some resulting harm, having a lot at stake in
maintaining the status quo is no vice.

Post by Anon
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

The odd thing is the Italian authorizes also want to see the former doctor.
It seems all his "studies" we're nothing but lies. Not one person treated
in any of his claimed trials has come forward.
He is wanted for conning the Italian government out of a few millions of
dollars and the deaths of a few 100 people.

What discredits Simoncini is that:
1) his proposed treatment of cancer has not been proven to work, and
2) a patient died from his treatment who otherwise may have survived,
given proper medical treatment.

Post by Anon
There is a lot of money at stake. They know how to deal with mavericks
and innovators who want to think outside the box and expose current
medical practice as a sham.

Simoncini is a not an innovator. He is a scam artist selling snake
oil. He made a lot of money in selling his scam treatment to
unsuspecting cancer patients.

Post by Lu
For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

For Lu, get a brain - but this is hoping for a little too much.

Carole is an idiot.

Bob Officer

2015-10-31 23:10:36 UTC

Post by Herb

Post by Anon
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:27:06 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
wrote >>> (in article
You giving medical advice?

Who wants to know?

Everyone reading your posts.
The unauthorized practice of medicine occurs when someone gives
medical advice or treatment without a professional license.
The prohibition against the unauthorized practice of medicine is a
precaution against people who would try to treat others without the
proper training, or by using unproven methods which could harm or even
kill their supposed patient.
You have no qualification for giving medical advice, Carole.

Simoncini's hypothesis is just that: an unproven hypothesis,
unsupported by evidence.
As such, Simoncini's hypothesis is without merit as a remedy for
cancer.

Simoncini's claim that all cancers were caused by albus candida. However
cancers are found in people which never had a history of candida. Logic
dictates without proof (extraordinary in this case) his claim is ruled as
false, and other supported by fact.

His second claim that calcium kills cancer in vitro, is supported. However
the second part of his claim, namely there is some mechanism to support his
claim that Calcium can differentiate between cancer and on-cancerous cells
is falsified. All data done in independent lab tests shows that calcium in
all vitro testing kills all cells equally well.

Post by Herb
Without citing some resulting harm, having a lot at stake in
maintaining the status quo is no vice.

Post by Anon
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

The odd thing is the Italian authorizes also want to see the former doctor.
It seems all his "studies" we're nothing but lies. Not one person treated
in any of his claimed trials has come forward.
He is wanted for conning the Italian government out of a few millions of
dollars and the deaths of a few 100 people.

1) his proposed treatment of cancer has not been proven to work, and
2) a patient died from his treatment who otherwise may have survived,
given proper medical treatment.

After examining his experimental records, there were found to be made up.
There was never the test done as he claimed.

Post by Herb

Post by Anon
There is a lot of money at stake. They know how to deal with mavericks
and innovators who want to think outside the box and expose current
medical practice as a sham.

Simoncini is a not an innovator. He is a scam artist selling snake
oil. He made a lot of money in selling his scam treatment to
unsuspecting cancer patients.

Did you know he was in the US recently. I guess the Us no longer respects
international arrest warrants and extradition requests for criminals.

Post by Herb

Post by Lu
For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

For Lu, get a brain - but this is hoping for a little too much.

Carole is an idiot.

--
Yep it is me, and Carole believes adding 2+2 can sometimes equal 3 or 5,
and getting wrong answers means you are thinking outside the box.

2015-11-01 02:58:33 UTC

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 10:07:22 -0400, Anon
wrote
(in article

Post by Anon
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:27:06 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of-
alt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

Who wants to know?

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

The odd thing is the Italian authorizes also want to see the former doctor.
It seems all his "studies" we're nothing but lies. Not one person treated
in any of his claimed trials has come forward.
He is wanted for conning the Italian government out of a few millions of
dollars and the deaths of a few 100 people.

Post by Lu
For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

For Lu, get a brain - but this is hoping for a little too much.

Poor poor Carole!

Post by Anon
--
Anonymous

--
Lu

For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

2015-11-01 01:27:11 UTC

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of-a
lt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.
http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

If Carole really has a 20 plus year foot fungus, would that fungus spread to
by now, all parts of her body?

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

The odd thing is the Italian authorizes also want to see the former doctor.
It seems all his "studies" we're nothing but lies. Not one person treated
in any of his claimed trials has come forward.
He is wanted for conning the Italian government out of a few millions of
dollars and the deaths of a few 100 people.

Seems to have conned Carole, too.

Post by Lu
For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

--
Lu

For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

Bob Officer

2015-11-01 04:24:52 UTC

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of-a
lt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.
http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

If Carole really has a 20 plus year foot fungus, would that fungus spread to
by now, all parts of her body?

Since she never had a real,diagnosis, who knows. When a person takes
laxatives over long term there skin tends to be drier than normal. This
would stop the blisters, which are the bloom, but not stop the fungus. The
moment the body would become hydrated to near normal the fungus would bloom
in a matter of hours or a day. The blisters are how the fungus spreads to
spores.

She doesn't know what she is doing or what she is treating.

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

The odd thing is the Italian authorizes also want to see the former doctor.
It seems all his "studies" we're nothing but lies. Not one person treated
in any of his claimed trials has come forward.
He is wanted for conning the Italian government out of a few millions of
dollars and the deaths of a few 100 people.

Seems to have conned Carole, too.

Yes he has.

So many cons and so foolish bunch of rubes.

--
Yep it is me, and Carole believes adding 2+2 can sometimes equal 3 or 5,
and getting wrong answers means you are thinking outside the box.

2015-11-01 14:49:24 UTC

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of
-a
lt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.
http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

If Carole really has a 20 plus year foot fungus, would that fungus spread to
by now, all parts of her body?

I was just wondering what would actually happen to her if she did have an
improperly treated foot fungus for some 25 years? Would it have spread to
other parts of her body? Would she now be a health menace to the point of
condemnation to anyone who came into contact with her?

I also wonder what she uses to treat the effects of constant dehydration from
her home made laxative brew, the dry skin, cracked and peeling lips, dry and
itchy eyes, etc.?

What other side effects would constant laxative use cause besides the
dehydration?

Post by Bob Officer
She doesn't know what she is doing or what she is treating.

All will agree with that.

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

The odd thing is the Italian authorizes also want to see the former doctor.
It seems all his "studies" we're nothing but lies. Not one person treated
in any of his claimed trials has come forward.
He is wanted for conning the Italian government out of a few millions of
dollars and the deaths of a few 100 people.

Seems to have conned Carole, too.

Yes he has.
So many cons and so foolish bunch of rubes.

I wonder if she has a big red star, for sucker, next to her name on all the
telemarketers lists? (G) Probably a specialized list of I believe anything
alternative suckers.
--
Lu

Carole reminds me of a person who ALWAYS picks the iron pyrite.

Bob Officer

2015-11-02 04:50:52 UTC

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of
-a
lt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.
http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

If Carole really has a 20 plus year foot fungus, would that fungus spread to
by now, all parts of her body?

I was just wondering what would actually happen to her if she did have an
improperly treated foot fungus for some 25 years? Would it have spread to
other parts of her body? Would she now be a health menace to the point of
condemnation to anyone who came into contact with her?
I also wonder what she uses to treat the effects of constant dehydration from
her home made laxative brew, the dry skin, cracked and peeling lips, dry and
itchy eyes, etc.?
What other side effects would constant laxative use cause besides the
dehydration?

Usually a weakening of the muscles in the lower bowel, and often what
happens is a perforated low bowel, which ends up with a required resection
of the lower bowel.

This is maybe the most common the end result of laxative addiction.

Post by Bob Officer
She doesn't know what she is doing or what she is treating.

All will agree with that.

This is the real problem. Did you know there are over a dozen different
conditions which mimic fungus infections?

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

The odd thing is the Italian authorizes also want to see the former doctor.
It seems all his "studies" we're nothing but lies. Not one person treate
in any of his claimed trials has come forward.
He is wanted for conning the Italian government out of a few millions of
dollars and the deaths of a few 100 people.

Seems to have conned Carole, too.

Yes he has.
So many cons and so foolish bunch of rubes.

I wonder if she has a big red star, for sucker, next to her name on all the
telemarketers lists? (G) Probably a specialized list of I believe anything
alternative suckers.

I sure she does. As well as she has a distinction of being one of the most
gullible people in the world.

Post by Lu
--
Lu
Carole reminds me of a person who ALWAYS picks the iron pyrite.

LOL!

--
Yep it is me, and Carole believes adding 2+2 can sometimes equal 3 or 5,
and getting wrong answers means you are thinking outside the box.

2015-11-02 05:48:28 UTC

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 11:36:39 +0000, Mary Wolstenholme

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-
of
-a
lt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.
http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

If Carole really has a 20 plus year foot fungus, would that fungus spread to
by now, all parts of her body?

I was just wondering what would actually happen to her if she did have an
improperly treated foot fungus for some 25 years? Would it have spread to
other parts of her body? Would she now be a health menace to the point of
condemnation to anyone who came into contact with her?
I also wonder what she uses to treat the effects of constant dehydration from
her home made laxative brew, the dry skin, cracked and peeling lips, dry and
itchy eyes, etc.?
What other side effects would constant laxative use cause besides the
dehydration?

Usually a weakening of the muscles in the lower bowel, and often what
happens is a perforated low bowel, which ends up with a required resection
of the lower bowel.
This is maybe the most common the end result of laxative addiction.

Not pleasant. A problem that could not be cured with alternative remedies
and no doubt death without immediate treatment.

Post by Bob Officer
She doesn't know what she is doing or what she is treating.

All will agree with that.

This is the real problem. Did you know there are over a dozen different
conditions which mimic fungus infections?

No and it is so easy to make a mistake when self diagnosing.

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

Seems to have conned Carole, too.

Yes he has.
So many cons and so foolish bunch of rubes.

I wonder if she has a big red star, for sucker, next to her name on all the
telemarketers lists? (G) Probably a specialized list of I believe anything
alternative suckers.

I sure she does. As well as she has a distinction of being one of the most
gullible people in the world.

Post by Lu
--
Lu
Carole reminds me of a person who ALWAYS picks the iron pyrite.

LOL!

--
Lu

For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

Carole's Sentient Fungus

2015-11-02 07:07:43 UTC

Post by Bob Officer
This is the real problem. Did you know there are over a dozen different
conditions which mimic fungus infections?

No and it is so easy to make a mistake when self diagnosing.

NO, NO, NOOOOO..

It's all a TRICK to get you to use mainstream medicine,
because THEY want to make as much money as the alties do!!

;)

2015-11-02 15:10:13 UTC

Post by Bob Officer
This is the real problem. Did you know there are over a dozen different
conditions which mimic fungus infections?

No and it is so easy to make a mistake when self diagnosing.

NO, NO, NOOOOO..
It's all a TRICK to get you to use mainstream medicine,
because THEY want to make as much money as the alties do!!
;)

Loosing battle. Hard to beat con men who offer miracles in the form of a
sugar pill.

Carole swears her daily placebo works to cure her foot fungus. Wouldn't be a
bit surprised to find out that her foot fungus is really dry skin, a side
effect of her daily dose of kitchen ingredients. See how easy it is to
make a mistake when diagnosing a condition? ;D .
--
Lu

For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

Clay

2015-11-02 15:51:15 UTC

Post by Bob Officer
This is the real problem. Did you know there are over a dozen
different conditions which mimic fungus infections?

No and it is so easy to make a mistake when self diagnosing.

NO, NO, NOOOOO..
It's all a TRICK to get you to use mainstream medicine, because
THEY want to make as much money as the alties do!!
;)

Loosing battle. Hard to beat con men who offer miracles in the form
of a sugar pill.
Carole swears her daily placebo works to cure her foot fungus.
Wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out that her foot fungus is
really dry skin, a side effect of her daily dose of kitchen
ingredients. See how easy it is to make a mistake when diagnosing a
condition? ;D .

With all the additional sodium she gets from her baking soda cocktails,
it's a good bet her blood pressure is higher than it should be.

High blood pressure puts her at risk for some bad health outcomes.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-pressure/in-depth/high-blood-pressure/art-20045868

--
"I had a couple of midori and lemonade the other day -
should have stopped at one though." - Carole
Message-ID: <od5Gq.301$%***@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>

http://tinyurl.com/qzuxvww

Bob Officer

2015-11-02 17:45:13 UTC

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 11:36:39 +0000, Mary Wolstenholme

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-
of
-a
lt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.
http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

If Carole really has a 20 plus year foot fungus, would that fungus spread to
by now, all parts of her body?

I was just wondering what would actually happen to her if she did have an
improperly treated foot fungus for some 25 years? Would it have spread to
other parts of her body? Would she now be a health menace to the point of
condemnation to anyone who came into contact with her?
I also wonder what she uses to treat the effects of constant dehydration from
her home made laxative brew, the dry skin, cracked and peeling lips, dry and
itchy eyes, etc.?
What other side effects would constant laxative use cause besides the
dehydration?

Usually a weakening of the muscles in the lower bowel, and often what
happens is a perforated low bowel, which ends up with a required resection
of the lower bowel.
This is maybe the most common the end result of laxative addiction.

Not pleasant. A problem that could not be cured with alternative remedies
and no doubt death without immediate treatment.

The usual treatment requires use of a colostomy bag for six months and at
lease two major surgeries. Had a coworker a few years back that had a
diverticular disease actually ruptured his colon. All total it required
three major surgeries, and five months on a colostomy bag, and a loss of
three inches of him colon. He did make a full recovery.

Post by Bob Officer
She doesn't know what she is doing or what she is treating.

All will agree with that.

This is the real problem. Did you know there are over a dozen different
conditions which mimic fungus infections?

No and it is so easy to make a mistake when self diagnosing.

That's the reason the code of ethics state MDs do not treat themselves or
close family members.

The funny things is the test is so easy, and can be done with a very simple
microscope.
For most cases the treatment is an OTC ointment.
The standard is a retest slide after treatment.

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

Seems to have conned Carole, too.

Yes he has.
So many cons and so foolish bunch of rubes.

I wonder if she has a big red star, for sucker, next to her name on all the
telemarketers lists? (G) Probably a specialized list of I believe anything
alternative suckers.

I sure she does. As well as she has a distinction of being one of the most
gullible people in the world.

Post by Lu
--
Lu
Carole reminds me of a person who ALWAYS picks the iron pyrite.

LOL!

--
Lu
For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

--
Yep it is me, and Carole believes adding 2+2 can sometimes equal 3 or 5,
and getting wrong answers means you are thinking outside the box.

2015-11-03 05:21:48 UTC

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-exampl
e-
of
-a
lt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.
http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

If Carole really has a 20 plus year foot fungus, would that fungus
spread
to
by now, all parts of her body?

I was just wondering what would actually happen to her if she did have an
improperly treated foot fungus for some 25 years? Would it have spread to
other parts of her body? Would she now be a health menace to the point of
condemnation to anyone who came into contact with her?
I also wonder what she uses to treat the effects of constant dehydration from
her home made laxative brew, the dry skin, cracked and peeling lips, dry and
itchy eyes, etc.?
What other side effects would constant laxative use cause besides the
dehydration?

Usually a weakening of the muscles in the lower bowel, and often what
happens is a perforated low bowel, which ends up with a required resection
of the lower bowel.
This is maybe the most common the end result of laxative addiction.

Not pleasant. A problem that could not be cured with alternative remedies
and no doubt death without immediate treatment.

Carole would find her own way.

Post by Bob Officer
She doesn't know what she is doing or what she is treating.

All will agree with that.

This is the real problem. Did you know there are over a dozen different
conditions which mimic fungus infections?

No and it is so easy to make a mistake when self diagnosing.

That's the reason the code of ethics state MDs do not treat themselves or
close family members.
The funny things is the test is so easy, and can be done with a very simple
microscope.
For most cases the treatment is an OTC ointment.
The standard is a retest slide after treatment.

The funny thing is years of complaints about the pharmaceutical industry and
lifetime maintenance treatments while at the same time using a self
generated and imposed lifetime of treatments to to control a problem that an
OTC pharmaceutical product would have cured in a very short time.

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

Seems to have conned Carole, too.

Yes he has.
So many cons and so foolish bunch of rubes.

I wonder if she has a big red star, for sucker, next to her name on all the
telemarketers lists? (G) Probably a specialized list of I believe anything
alternative suckers.

I sure she does. As well as she has a distinction of being one of the most
gullible people in the world.

Post by Lu
--
Lu
Carole reminds me of a person who ALWAYS picks the iron pyrite.

LOL!

--
Lu
For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

--
Lu

For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

kaye

2015-11-02 20:34:36 UTC

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of
-a
lt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.
http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

If Carole really has a 20 plus year foot fungus, would that fungus spread to
by now, all parts of her body?

I was just wondering what would actually happen to her if she did have an
improperly treated foot fungus for some 25 years? Would it have spread to
other parts of her body? Would she now be a health menace to the point of
condemnation to anyone who came into contact with her?
I also wonder what she uses to treat the effects of constant dehydration from
her home made laxative brew, the dry skin, cracked and peeling lips, dry and
itchy eyes, etc.?
What other side effects would constant laxative use cause besides the
dehydration?

Usually a weakening of the muscles in the lower bowel, and often what
happens is a perforated low bowel, which ends up with a required resection
of the lower bowel.
This is maybe the most common the end result of laxative addiction.

I seem to recall Carole's sock mentioning how all doctors want to cut in
and remove portions of bowel......
She said that out of the blue with no conversation discussing bowel
disease. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Post by Bob Officer
She doesn't know what she is doing or what she is treating.

All will agree with that.

This is the real problem. Did you know there are over a dozen different
conditions which mimic fungus infections?

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

Seems to have conned Carole, too.

Yes he has.
So many cons and so foolish bunch of rubes.

I wonder if she has a big red star, for sucker, next to her name on all the
telemarketers lists? (G) Probably a specialized list of I believe anything
alternative suckers.

I sure she does. As well as she has a distinction of being one of the most
gullible people in the world.

Post by Lu
--
Lu
Carole reminds me of a person who ALWAYS picks the iron pyrite.

LOL!

Bob Officer

2015-11-03 02:53:45 UTC

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of
-a
lt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.
http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

If Carole really has a 20 plus year foot fungus, would that fungus spread to
by now, all parts of her body?

I was just wondering what would actually happen to her if she did have an
improperly treated foot fungus for some 25 years? Would it have spread to
other parts of her body? Would she now be a health menace to the point of
condemnation to anyone who came into contact with her?
I also wonder what she uses to treat the effects of constant dehydration from
her home made laxative brew, the dry skin, cracked and peeling lips, dry and
itchy eyes, etc.?
What other side effects would constant laxative use cause besides the
dehydration?

Usually a weakening of the muscles in the lower bowel, and often what
happens is a perforated low bowel, which ends up with a required resection
of the lower bowel.
This is maybe the most common the end result of laxative addiction.

I do recall that, I wondered where that came from at the time. I don't
expect any real information from her?

Post by Bob Officer
She doesn't know what she is doing or what she is treating.

All will agree with that.

This is the real problem. Did you know there are over a dozen different
conditions which mimic fungus infections?

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

Seems to have conned Carole, too.

Yes he has.
So many cons and so foolish bunch of rubes.

I wonder if she has a big red star, for sucker, next to her name on all the
telemarketers lists? (G) Probably a specialized list of I believe anything
alternative suckers.

I sure she does. As well as she has a distinction of being one of the most
gullible people in the world.

Post by Lu
--
Lu
Carole reminds me of a person who ALWAYS picks the iron pyrite.

LOL!

--
Yep it is me, and Carole believes adding 2+2 can sometimes equal 3 or 5,
and getting wrong answers means you are thinking outside the box.

2015-11-03 05:23:13 UTC

On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 15:34:36 -0500, kaye
wrote
(in article
<1736362634.468188606.038446.ksoquilts-

Post by Lu
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:07:55 -0400, Anon
(in article

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 11:36:39 +0000, Mary Wolstenholme

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

All good if you really LIKE your fungus and don't want to cure it.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example
-of
-a
lt
ernative-medicine-exaggeration/

You giving medical advice?

I thought her advice was funny. By try to treat candida with a acid
neutralizer, it actually encourages growth. The old treatment was an mild
vinegar solution. Or Gentian violet in a 1% water solution. This has been
discontinued in many places because of the damage which can be done to
mucosal membranes.
http://www.drugs.com/breastfeeding/gentian-violet.html

If Carole really has a 20 plus year foot fungus, would that fungus
spread
to
by now, all parts of her body?

I was just wondering what would actually happen to her if she did have an
improperly treated foot fungus for some 25 years? Would it have spread to
other parts of her body? Would she now be a health menace to the point of
condemnation to anyone who came into contact with her?
I also wonder what she uses to treat the effects of constant dehydration from
her home made laxative brew, the dry skin, cracked and peeling lips, dry and
itchy eyes, etc.?
What other side effects would constant laxative use cause besides the
dehydration?

Usually a weakening of the muscles in the lower bowel, and often what
happens is a perforated low bowel, which ends up with a required resection
of the lower bowel.
This is maybe the most common the end result of laxative addiction.

Yes!

Post by Bob Officer
She doesn't know what she is doing or what she is treating.

All will agree with that.

This is the real problem. Did you know there are over a dozen different
conditions which mimic fungus infections?

Post by Science psycho
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's Cancer is a Fungus - website
and other links around

Seems to have conned Carole, too.

Yes he has.
So many cons and so foolish bunch of rubes.

I wonder if she has a big red star, for sucker, next to her name on all the
telemarketers lists? (G) Probably a specialized list of I believe anything
alternative suckers.

I sure she does. As well as she has a distinction of being one of the most
gullible people in the world.

Post by Lu
--
Lu
Carole reminds me of a person who ALWAYS picks the iron pyrite.

LOL!

--
Lu

For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

Clay

2015-10-31 03:02:45 UTC

Post by Anon
See Italian oncologist Tullio Simoncini's

He was convicted of fraud and manslaughter in 2006 when a patient died
after his treatment.

--
"I had a couple of midori and lemonade the other day -
should have stopped at one though." - Carole
Message-ID: <od5Gq.301$%***@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>

http://tinyurl.com/qzuxvww

Bob Officer

2015-10-29 21:19:45 UTC

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.
Mary

--
Yep it is me, and Carole believes adding 2+2 can sometimes equal 3 or 5,
and getting wrong answers means you are thinking outside the box.

Science psycho

2015-10-30 18:00:16 UTC

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.
Mary

I don't agree that essential oils and herbs claims are exaggerated.
There are some powerful cures if a person knows which herbs and how to
use them.

Further, people should feel free to try things to see what works for
them without advocates of "proper medicine" discounting any possible
effects. The pharmaceutical business is one of the biggest cons going
and has had a well orchestrated campaign going for 100+ years along
with propaganda and demonisation of alternatives that would cut into
its marketshare.

--
Science psycho
Debunking the Placebo Effect
http://www.chiro.org/nutrition/FULL/Debunking_the_Placebo.shtml

Western medicine is Rockefeller medicine - all the way.
http://tinyurl.com/p26c3wy

Bob Officer

2015-10-30 23:21:50 UTC

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.
Mary

I don't agree that essential oils and herbs claims are exaggerated.

You have evidence, Carole?

There is a huge body of evidence that the claims of curative power is over
rated.

There is even a huge body of evidence nice that the oils are more likely to
cause harm.

Post by Science psycho
There are some powerful cures if a person knows which herbs and how to
use them.

And do you feel a shop sales person reading from booklet is a good source
of medical advice and diagnosis?

Post by Science psycho
Further, people should feel free to try things to see what works for
them without advocates of "proper medicine" discounting any possible
effects. The pharmaceutical business is one of the biggest cons going
and has had a well orchestrated campaign going for 100+ years along
with propaganda and demonisation of alternatives that would cut into
its marketshare.

No they should not feel free to see what works for them. Doctors go to
college and medical school then get on the job training. The become
qualified to give opinions.

You have no background to issue any opinion of weigh in the matter because
you have zero qualifications in the field. You're the idiot on the street
which should be ignored Carole.

--
Yep it is me, and Carole believes adding 2+2 can sometimes equal 3 or 5,
and getting wrong answers means you are thinking outside the box.

A little knowledge

2015-10-31 14:28:52 UTC

On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 23:21:50 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.
Mary

I don't agree that essential oils and herbs claims are exaggerated.

You have evidence, Carole?

One has to understand how totally corrupt the current system is, and
how vested in maintaining the status quo.

Post by Bob Officer
There is a huge body of evidence that the claims of curative power is over
rated.

Yes and no.
You've got to realise that the current system is totally corrupt and a
person does well to question any mainstream recommended treatment.
There are exceptions and medical science comes up with some excellent
and lifesaving treatments on occasion.

Notwithstanding, a person needs to do their own research and in doing
so they will eventually come across alternative remedies that work
better than anything mainstream has to offer. It is a scandal that
such remedies are suppressed.

Post by Bob Officer
There is even a huge body of evidence nice that the oils are more likely to
cause harm.

It all depends on getting the right remedy for the condition and
knowing how to use it. Anything can be misused by people who don't
know what they're doing.

Post by Science psycho
There are some powerful cures if a person knows which herbs and how to
use them.

And do you feel a shop sales person reading from booklet is a good source
of medical advice and diagnosis?

Can be.
People should be allowed to find their own remedies that work for
them. And there are people who have had success with various
alterntive remedies. To say that mainstream medicine is the only right
modality and that any alternatives are useless is similar to people
who say their religion is the only right one and that all other
religions are wrong.

No they should not feel free to see what works for them. Doctors go to
college and medical school then get on the job training. The become
qualified to give opinions.

But yet it can be shown that mainstream medical schools have been
largly funded by Rockefeller money in return for teaching
pharmaceutical medicine.
There is a whole class of medicine that is rubbished and minimised as
of no importance, and I'm talking about nutritional medicine. Study
after study shows the importance of various nutrients and how they can
benefit certain conditions. However, doctors are largely unaware of
nutritional cures and follow the old mantra that a good diet generally
provides all necessary nutrition.

Post by Bob Officer
You have no background to issue any opinion of weigh in the matter because
you have zero qualifications in the field. You're the idiot on the street
which should be ignored Carole.

Get stuffed bob, you have no medical expertise of any kind and merely
go along with "experts" and "reliable sources" which anybody knows are
bought and paid for by the system.

--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing

Is Big Pharma Addicted To Fraud?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikakelton/2013/07/29/is-big-pharma-addicted-to-fraud/

Patents Over Patients
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/opinion/01moss.html
"We could make faster progress against cancer by changing the way
drugs are developed. In the current system, if a promising compound
cant be patented, it is highly unlikely ever to make it to market"

Bob Officer

2015-10-31 23:07:06 UTC

Post by A little knowledge
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 23:21:50 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.
Mary

I don't agree that essential oils and herbs claims are exaggerated.

You have evidence, Carole?

One has to understand how totally corrupt the current system is, and
how vested in maintaining the status quo.

I take that a simple 'NO' then, Carole. You have no evidence, data, and
nothing but a worthless post hoc declaration from a well know liar and net
loon.

Post by Bob Officer
There is a huge body of evidence that the claims of curative power is over
rated.

No, Carole, just no.

Post by A little knowledge
Notwithstanding, a person needs to do their own research and in doing
so they will eventually come across alternative remedies that work
better than anything mainstream has to offer. It is a scandal that
such remedies are suppressed.

Like your so call research, Carole. You really have no idea what is
research or how to conduct research. You have shown no signs of any sort of
research skills in the last 15 years.

You even fail to do basic fact checking on your sources, and when you are
shown to be wrong fail to correct your critical thinking skills or research
process.

Post by Bob Officer
There is even a huge body of evidence nice that the oils are more likely to
cause harm.

It all depends on getting the right remedy for the condition and
knowing how to use it. Anything can be misused by people who don't
know what they're doing.

No it doesn't matter the studies all point to report after report of ER
visits with toxic symptoms which eventually point back to misuse of OTC
unlicensed treatments.

I recall reading a few years back of a 'out break' of liver damage in a
area. The 'out break' was trace back by the FDA to a health food store that
had a clerk "prescribing" oil of wintergreen for back and muscle pain.

The trouble oil of wintergreen is converted by the body to aspirin,
Salicylic acid, and unintentional overdoes were putting people isn't the
hospital. IIRC this source was discovered accidentally because a young
child died from exposure to the oil of wintergreen.

Post by Science psycho
are some powerful cures if a person knows which herbs and how to
use them.

And do you feel a shop sales person reading from booklet is a good source
of medical advice and diagnosis?

Can be.

Then you are just plain stupid.

There is a reason pharmacist require nearly the same education as a doctor.

Post by A little knowledge
People should be allowed to find their own remedies that work for
them. And there are people who have had success with various
alterntive remedies. To say that mainstream medicine is the only right
modality and that any alternatives are useless is similar to people
who say their religion is the only right one and that all other
religions are wrong.

Medicine is not the same as religion. As that is why you need to shut up,
Carole. You lack the critical thinking skills and do nothing more that
write what ever bit of idiocy pops into you empty head at the moment.

No they should not feel free to see what works for them. Doctors go to
college and medical school then get on the job training. The become
qualified to give opinions.

Carole, that lie has a sidle source, which was shown to be a bit of
misdirection and lies.

Get stuffed bob, you have no medical expertise of any kind and merely
go along with "experts" and "reliable sources" which anybody knows are
bought and paid for by the system.

Really Carole, I have far more than you. With less than 5 semester hours of
classes, I could work in an ER room. In less than a year I could take and
pass RN exam? Could you? Yes I do have some medical qualifications. More
than the fire department's typical EMT. They often have a better kit than
I carry, but as part of being Disaster Service Worker, I have to have all
those medical skills of that basic EMT and more. Even more important I have
to have continuing education in specific classes dealing with everything
from haz-mats to infectious diseases. Next years class sound fun, it is a
class on exposure, accidents , trauma, causes, mitigation and
transportation of patients.

So again you are reminded that you know next to nothing in the real world,
and you really do not know much of anything outside of your dogmatic
beliefs which have been shown by evidence and data to be wrong time after
time. Your lack of reading and comprehension skills indicate nothing with
change for you without a change in your mental attitude. You are a very
poor spokesperson for alternative treatment modalities. You lack any sort
of cohesive thinking or knowledge on the subject.

Go away Carole. You've single handedly destroyed any one from trying to
discuss alternative health modalities.

--
Yep it is me, and Carole believes adding 2+2 can sometimes equal 3 or 5,
and getting wrong answers means you are thinking outside the box.

For obvious reasons

2015-11-09 01:00:11 UTC

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 23:07:06 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 23:21:50 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.
Mary

I don't agree that essential oils and herbs claims are exaggerated.

You have evidence, Carole?

One has to understand how totally corrupt the current system is, and
how vested in maintaining the status quo.

I take that a simple 'NO' then, Carole. You have no evidence, data, and
nothing but a worthless post hoc declaration from a well know liar and net
loon.

Post by Bob Officer
There is a huge body of evidence that the claims of curative power is over
rated.

No, Carole, just no.

No what?
The pharmaceutical business lacks transparency, and does whatever it
can to dismiss any claims about alternatives.

You want to believe their crap - fine, but don't expect others to
blindly believe whatever mainstream dishes up. People who take the
time to get informed know that the mainstream system is all about
dominance and money. They don't want to cure anything because the
system is all about hanging on to their customer base.

Like your so call research, Carole. You really have no idea what is
research or how to conduct research. You have shown no signs of any sort of
research skills in the last 15 years.

Bullshit bob.
My research shows that the current system shouldn't be taken
seriously. Yes ok for a diagnosis and sometimes for lifesaving
intervention, ok here and there for long-term maintenance such as
diabetes, but mostly to be ignored.

Post by Bob Officer
You even fail to do basic fact checking on your sources, and when you are
shown to be wrong fail to correct your critical thinking skills or research
process.

Bob, you don't know the meaning of the word "research".
For you research is all within the confines of mainstream approved
modalities. Well guess what bob, you've first got to work out which is
best, mainstream with its high-priced patented concoctions, or
alternative with its natural treatments.
And guess what bob, you haven't even got that worked out because all
you believe is whatever propaganda mainstream pushes.

Post by Bob Officer
There is even a huge body of evidence nice that the oils are more likely to
cause harm.

It all depends on getting the right remedy for the condition and
knowing how to use it. Anything can be misused by people who don't
know what they're doing.

No it doesn't matter the studies all point to report after report of ER
visits with toxic symptoms which eventually point back to misuse of OTC
unlicensed treatments.

Bullshit bob. There are no studies pointing to harmfulness of
alternative remedies.

Post by Bob Officer
I recall reading a few years back of a 'out break' of liver damage in a
area. The 'out break' was trace back by the FDA to a health food store that
had a clerk "prescribing" oil of wintergreen for back and muscle pain.

Oil of wintergreen is a toxic substance.
So you mean that because some toxic substance was recommended by
somebody from a health food store, all alternative remedies are toxic?

Post by Bob Officer
The trouble oil of wintergreen is converted by the body to aspirin,
Salicylic acid, and unintentional overdoes were putting people isn't the
hospital. IIRC this source was discovered accidentally because a young
child died from exposure to the oil of wintergreen.

Post by Science psycho
are some powerful cures if a person knows which herbs and how to
use them.

And do you feel a shop sales person reading from booklet is a good source
of medical advice and diagnosis?

Can be.

Then you are just plain stupid.

You prefer your mainstream "experts" and "reliable sources" who have
been trained to push pharmaceutical patented concoctions, and where
reps are trained to reel them in to prescribing more and more of these
substances?

Post by Bob Officer
There is a reason pharmacist require nearly the same education as a doctor.

They're all drug pushes for big pharma.
Forget the 4 or 6 year degrees - a person can usually find a natural
remedy that does the same or better with less side effects.

Why don't you shutup?
You haven't been trained in medicine and won't even acknowledge that
the current mainstream system is based on corruption, lies and
propaganda. The Rockefeller education system was funded with huge
amounts of money on the condition they adopt the pharmaceutical regime
over alternatives. Just follow the money, or is that too simple for
you?

I guess it is, since you are a dunce.

No they should not feel free to see what works for them. Doctors go to
college and medical school then get on the job training. The become
qualified to give opinions.

Carole, that lie has a sidle source, which was shown to be a bit of
misdirection and lies.

What lie is that bob?
You mean the lies of big pharma - yes all well known.

The pharmaceutical business is about making money - it says its about
health, but that is misdirection.

Get stuffed bob, you have no medical expertise of any kind and merely
go along with "experts" and "reliable sources" which anybody knows are
bought and paid for by the system.

But bob, can you prescribe drugs?
working in an emergency system to stabilise people, stitch things up,
set broken bones is one thing - first aid is another.

What you have is first aid quals. Nothing wrong with first aid.
Do you treat long-term chronic disability or mental issues?
No, I thought not.

You are a fool bob.

Post by Bob Officer
They often have a better kit than
I carry, but as part of being Disaster Service Worker, I have to have all
those medical skills of that basic EMT and more. Even more important I have
to have continuing education in specific classes dealing with everything
from haz-mats to infectious diseases. Next years class sound fun, it is a
class on exposure, accidents , trauma, causes, mitigation and
transportation of patients.

First aid and emergency care bob - nothing to do with long-term
management of chronic disease.

Post by Bob Officer
So again you are reminded that you know next to nothing in the real world,
and you really do not know much of anything outside of your dogmatic
beliefs which have been shown by evidence and data to be wrong time after
time. Your lack of reading and comprehension skills indicate nothing with
change for you without a change in your mental attitude. You are a very
poor spokesperson for alternative treatment modalities. You lack any sort
of cohesive thinking or knowledge on the subject.
Go away Carole. You've single handedly destroyed any one from trying to
discuss alternative health modalities.

Bullshit bob.
You wouldn't know what is what.
You confuse first aid with pharmaceutical management of disease.

Go and have a rethink about how big pharma has infiltrated mainstream
medicine and driven off all alternative therapies that would interfere
with their patented profits.

--
For obvious reasons

Why modern healthcare is in such a shambles
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/the-ph-miracle-for-cancer.html

1953 Fitzgerald Report - Suppressed Cancer Treatments
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2007/04/03/1953_fitzgerald_report_suppressed_cancer_treatments.htm

How Pharmaceuticals Came To Be The 4th Leading Cause Of Death In
America
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/11/20/how-pharmaceuticals-came-to-be-the-4th-leading-cause-of-death-in-america/

Clay

2015-11-09 02:10:10 UTC

Post by For obvious reasons
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 23:07:06 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by A little knowledge
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 23:21:50 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.

I don't agree that essential oils and herbs claims are
exaggerated.

You have evidence, Carole?

One has to understand how totally corrupt the current system is,
and how vested in maintaining the status quo.

I take that a simple 'NO' then, Carole. You have no evidence, data,
and nothing but a worthless post hoc declaration from a well know
liar and net loon.

Post by Bob Officer
There is a huge body of evidence that the claims of curative
power is over rated.

No, Carole, just no.

No what? The pharmaceutical business lacks transparency, and does
whatever it can to dismiss any claims about alternatives.

If pharmaceutical companies could make money with alternatives, they'd
do so. The only reason they do not is that alternatives don't work.

Of course, you never detail which alternatives work. It's all hot air
with you, Carole, all the time. Where's the beef?

The only transparency required is the one necessary to pass muster with
the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the USA, and other similar
agencies in other countries.

Of course it's not a perfect system. That's why there are doctors and
watchdog groups who monitor it.

Here's one example.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/25/opinion/25fri1.html

Post by For obvious reasons
You want to believe their crap - fine, but don't expect others to
blindly believe whatever mainstream dishes up.

No one gives a rat's patootie what you believe, Carole. You are a
inconsequential in the large scheme of things.

Post by For obvious reasons
People who take the time to get informed know that the mainstream
system is all about dominance and money. They don't want to cure
anything because the system is all about hanging on to their
customer base.

Blah blah blah. As if you have a better plan for providing health care?

Does it involve starving kids with a juice diet to kill off head lice
infestation? Or ingesting daily baking soda cocktails to cure a foot
fungus?

So sorry, Carole, but no one is buying your alternative plan.

Post by A little knowledge
Notwithstanding, a person needs to do their own research and in
doing so they will eventually come across alternative remedies
that work better than anything mainstream has to offer. It is a
scandal that such remedies are suppressed.

Like your so call research, Carole. You really have no idea what
is research or how to conduct research. You have shown no signs of
any sort of research skills in the last 15 years.

Bullshit bob.

The bullshit is exclusively yours, Carole.

Post by For obvious reasons
My research shows that the current system shouldn't be taken
seriously.

Your research is deficient. You have no critical thinking skills. You
are a proponent of dogma.

Post by For obvious reasons
Yes ok for a diagnosis and sometimes for lifesaving intervention, ok
here and there for long-term maintenance such as diabetes, but mostly
to be ignored.

Ignore what you want, Carole.
No one really cares what you do.

Post by Bob Officer
You even fail to do basic fact checking on your sources, and when
you are shown to be wrong fail to correct your critical thinking
skills or research process.

Bob, you don't know the meaning of the word "research".

Define research.

Post by For obvious reasons
For you research is all within the confines of mainstream approved
modalities. Well guess what bob, you've first got to work out which
is best, mainstream with its high-priced patented concoctions, or
alternative with its natural treatments.

You never provide alternative research, Carole.
And when you do, it is faulty.

Post by For obvious reasons
And guess what bob, you haven't even got that worked out because all
you believe is whatever propaganda mainstream pushes.

The only problem is that the mainstream's studies are more often than
not replicated by independent investigators. That's not the case with
alternative research.

Post by Bob Officer
There is even a huge body of evidence nice that the oils are
more likely to cause harm.

It all depends on getting the right remedy for the condition and
knowing how to use it. Anything can be misused by people who
don't know what they're doing.

No it doesn't matter the studies all point to report after report
of ER visits with toxic symptoms which eventually point back to
misuse of OTC unlicensed treatments.

Bullshit bob. There are no studies pointing to harmfulness of
alternative remedies.

What's to point out? Alternative remedies speak for themselves. They
don't work.

Post by Bob Officer
I recall reading a few years back of a 'out break' of liver damage
in a area. The 'out break' was trace back by the FDA to a health
food store that had a clerk "prescribing" oil of wintergreen for
back and muscle pain.

Oil of wintergreen is a toxic substance. So you mean that because
some toxic substance was recommended by somebody from a health food
store, all alternative remedies are toxic?

Name an alternative remedy that works and is not toxic.

Post by Bob Officer
The trouble oil of wintergreen is converted by the body to
aspirin, Salicylic acid, and unintentional overdoes were putting
people isn't the hospital. IIRC this source was discovered
accidentally because a young child died from exposure to the oil of
wintergreen.

Post by Science psycho
are some powerful cures if a person knows which herbs and how
to use them.

And do you feel a shop sales person reading from booklet is a
good source of medical advice and diagnosis?

Can be.

Then you are just plain stupid.

The vast majority of those substances work. Most doctors discern what's
beneficial for their patients from pharmaceuticals. The good doctors are
always cautious in their prescribing practice.

Post by Bob Officer
There is a reason pharmacist require nearly the same education as a doctor.

They're all drug pushes for big pharma. Forget the 4 or 6 year
degrees - a person can usually find a natural remedy that does the
same or better with less side effects.

Name a natural remedy and what it is good for.

Post by A little knowledge
People should be allowed to find their own remedies that work
for them. And there are people who have had success with various
alterntive remedies. To say that mainstream medicine is the only
right modality and that any alternatives are useless is similar
to people who say their religion is the only right one and that
all other religions are wrong.

Medicine is not the same as religion. As that is why you need to
shut up, Carole. You lack the critical thinking skills and do
nothing more that write what ever bit of idiocy pops into you empty
head at the moment.

Why don't you shutup?

Care to take your own advice?
You're a failed advocate.

Post by For obvious reasons
You haven't been trained in medicine and won't even acknowledge that
the current mainstream system is based on corruption, lies and
propaganda.

You're deficient in basic science.

Post by For obvious reasons
The Rockefeller education system was funded with huge amounts of
money on the condition they adopt the pharmaceutical regime over
alternatives. Just follow the money, or is that too simple for you?

The Rockefeller contributions to medical science were a drop in the
bucket. There were no conditions as you describe them.

Post by For obvious reasons
I guess it is, since you are a dunce.

You're an idiot, Carole.
And everyone knows it.
Your track record speaks for itself.

Post by Science psycho
Further, people should feel free to try things to see what
works for them without advocates of "proper medicine"
discounting any possible effects. The pharmaceutical business
is one of the biggest cons going and has had a well
orchestrated campaign going for 100+ years along with
propaganda and demonisation of alternatives that would cut
into its marketshare.

No they should not feel free to see what works for them.
Doctors go to college and medical school then get on the job
training. The become qualified to give opinions.

But yet it can be shown that mainstream medical schools have
been largly funded by Rockefeller money in return for teaching
pharmaceutical medicine. There is a whole class of medicine that
is rubbished and minimised as of no importance, and I'm talking
about nutritional medicine. Study after study shows the
importance of various nutrients and how they can benefit certain
conditions. However, doctors are largely unaware of nutritional
cures and follow the old mantra that a good diet generally
provides all necessary nutrition.

Carole, that lie has a sidle source, which was shown to be a bit
of misdirection and lies.

What lie is that bob? You mean the lies of big pharma - yes all well
known.

Blah blah blah.

Post by For obvious reasons
The pharmaceutical business is about making money - it says its
about health, but that is misdirection.

No business survives without making money, so that allegation goes nowhere.

Pharmaceutical companies have not stayed in business by misdirection.
They've thrived by bringing medications to market that are safe and
efficacious.

Post by Bob Officer
You have no background to issue any opinion of weigh in the
matter because you have zero qualifications in the field.
You're the idiot on the street which should be ignored Carole.

Get stuffed bob, you have no medical expertise of any kind and
merely go along with "experts" and "reliable sources" which
anybody knows are bought and paid for by the system.

But bob, can you prescribe drugs? working in an emergency system to
stabilise people, stitch things up, set broken bones is one thing -
first aid is another.

A license to practice medicine isn't required to know what medical
science does.

Post by For obvious reasons
What you have is first aid quals. Nothing wrong with first aid. Do
you treat long-term chronic disability or mental issues? No, I
thought not.
You are a fool bob.

You are an idiot, Carole.

Post by Bob Officer
They often have a better kit than I carry, but as part of being
Disaster Service Worker, I have to have all those medical skills of
that basic EMT and more. Even more important I have to have
continuing education in specific classes dealing with everything
from haz-mats to infectious diseases. Next years class sound fun,
it is a class on exposure, accidents , trauma, causes, mitigation
and transportation of patients.

First aid and emergency care bob - nothing to do with long-term
management of chronic disease.

You're testing his knowledge of long-term chronic disease management?
Your qualifications?

Post by Bob Officer
So again you are reminded that you know next to nothing in the real
world, and you really do not know much of anything outside of your
dogmatic beliefs which have been shown by evidence and data to be
wrong time after time. Your lack of reading and comprehension
skills indicate nothing with change for you without a change in
your mental attitude. You are a very poor spokesperson for
alternative treatment modalities. You lack any sort of cohesive
thinking or knowledge on the subject.
Go away Carole. You've single handedly destroyed any one from
trying to discuss alternative health modalities.

Bullshit bob. You wouldn't know what is what. You confuse first aid
with pharmaceutical management of disease.

So says the failed advocate for alternatives.

Post by For obvious reasons
Go and have a rethink about how big pharma has infiltrated
mainstream medicine and driven off all alternative therapies that
would interfere with their patented profits.

Alternative therapies don't work.
But you're encouraged to name and describe at least one that does.
Funny, how you never do that.

Herb

2015-10-31 23:12:15 UTC

On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 01:28:52 +1100, Carole socking as A little

Post by A little knowledge
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 23:21:50 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

<snip>

Post by A little knowledge
One has to understand how totally corrupt the current system is, and
how vested in maintaining the status quo.

There's nothing to understand.
Carole makes unfounded allegations, unsupported by proof.

<snip>

Post by A little knowledge
You've got to realise that the current system is totally corrupt and a
person does well to question any mainstream recommended treatment.

The only thing to understand is that Carole makes unfounded
allegations because she has a personal agenda to denigrate
evidence-based medicine.

Post by A little knowledge
There are exceptions and medical science comes up with some excellent
and lifesaving treatments on occasion.

There are a vastly more successful treatments from evidence-based
medicine than "on occasion."

Carole needs to do her own research to support her allegations.
She never does that because her allegations are unsupportable and
without merit.

Carole's agenda is to denigrate evidence-based medicine by any means
possible, including the use of falsehood and misrepresentation.

Post by A little knowledge
It is a scandal that such remedies are suppressed.

Nothing is suppressed.
Alternative remedies, the kind Carole touts, do not work.

Post by Bob Officer
There is even a huge body of evidence nice that the oils are more likely to
cause harm.

It all depends on getting the right remedy for the condition and
knowing how to use it.

There is no right remedy with alternatives.
Alternative don't work.

Post by A little knowledge
Anything can be misused by people who don't
know what they're doing.

Carole doesn't know what she's doing.
Her advice is dangerous to the health and well being of anyone who
takes her seriously.

Post by Science psycho
There are some powerful cures if a person knows which herbs and how to
use them.

And do you feel a shop sales person reading from booklet is a good source
of medical advice and diagnosis?

Can be.
People should be allowed to find their own remedies that work for
them.

Searching for remedies on one's own, akin to playing doctor for
oneself as patient, is a waste of time. It can be dangerous if it
delays proper medical treatment.

Post by A little knowledge
And there are people who have had success with various
alterntive remedies.

No one has had success with alternative remedies.
Alternative remedies do not work.

Post by A little knowledge
To say that mainstream medicine is the only right modality
and that any alternatives are useless is similar to people
who say their religion is the only right one and that all other
religions are wrong.

Religion is not simiar to evidence-based medicine, no way, no how.

Evidence-based medicine works and has a track record to prove it.

Alternative remedies have no track record showing they work.

No they should not feel free to see what works for them. Doctors go to
college and medical school then get on the job training. The become
qualified to give opinions.

But yet it can be shown that mainstream medical schools have been
largly funded by Rockefeller money in return for teaching
pharmaceutical medicine.

J. D. Rockefeller's donations to medical science were a tiny fraction
of the funding that has driven evidence-based medicine in the modern
era.

Receiving donations from Rockefeller was no vice for medical schools.

Post by A little knowledge
There is a whole class of medicine that is rubbished and minimised as
of no importance, and I'm talking about nutritional medicine.

Nutritional science is a regular part of medical school training.

Post by A little knowledge
Studyafter study shows the importance of various nutrients and how they can
benefit certain conditions. However, doctors are largely unaware of
nutritional cures and follow the old mantra that a good diet generally
provides all necessary nutrition.

Doctors recommend nutritional remedies when they are appropriate to
the patient's condition.

The problem with nutritional remedies is that in the vast majority of
patients who present in the practice of medicine, they are too weak to
be effective, given the seriousness and stage of patients' illnesses.

Get stuffed bob, you have no medical expertise of any kind and merely
go along with "experts" and "reliable sources" which anybody knows are
bought and paid for by the system.

Medical experts use treatments that have been proven to be safe and
efficacious. They are not bought and paid for by the system. Carole
cannot prove otherwise.

Carole is a purveyor of falsehood and misrepresentation.

Carole is a danger to herself. Anyone who puts stock in her online
pronouncements does so at his own peril.

Carole is an idiot who should be ignored if not jailed.

2015-11-01 02:51:54 UTC

Post by A little knowledge
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 23:21:50 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Science psycho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.
Mary

I don't agree that essential oils and herbs claims are exaggerated.

You have evidence, Carole?

One has to understand how totally corrupt the current system is, and
how vested in maintaining the status quo.

Where is your evidence?

Post by Bob Officer
There is a huge body of evidence that the claims of curative power is over
rated.

Fairy tales without evidence.

More fairy tales.

Post by Bob Officer
There is even a huge body of evidence nice that the oils are more likely to
cause harm.

It all depends on getting the right remedy for the condition and
knowing how to use it. Anything can be misused by people who don't
know what they're doing.

No evidence that you know what you are doing?

Post by Science psycho
There are some powerful cures if a person knows which herbs and how to
use them.

And do you feel a shop sales person reading from booklet is a good source
of medical advice and diagnosis?

What ever gives you the idea that people aren't allowed to find their own way
for their medical problems? Most people are smart enough to decide that
their own medical care is not something they care to learn as needed from a
"Medicine for Dummies" "do it yourself" book.

So, people do find their own way right to the doctors office and those
experts called Doctors.

We know that you did not do too well when "finding your own way" when it came
to your children and their head lice. We also know that after a quarter of
century you have not done too well finding your own way with your foot fungus
and you have a tumor of some kind on your neck that could eventually cause
you grief. Are you really going to continue putting your life in the
untrained hands of yourself, an person who is not even reading that
"Medicine For Dummies" book and couldn't even get rid of a little foot
fungus?

A little hint, Carole. If you had suffered any one of the problems the people
posting in this group have mentioned surviving, and found your own way when
it came to treatment, you would be dead and buried long ago.

No they should not feel free to see what works for them. Doctors go to
college and medical school then get on the job training. The become
qualified to give opinions.

No evidence.

Get stuffed bob, you have no medical expertise of any kind and merely
go along with "experts" and "reliable sources" which anybody knows are
bought and paid for by the system.

No evidence.

Post by A little knowledge
--
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing

--
Lu

For Carole. "Put up or shut up"!

Glasshouse

2015-11-08 02:56:40 UTC

On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 01:28:52 +1100, A little knowledge

Post by A little knowledge
But yet it can be shown that mainstream medical schools have been
largly funded by Rockefeller money in return for teaching
pharmaceutical medicine.
There is a whole class of medicine that is rubbished and minimised as
of no importance, and I'm talking about nutritional medicine. Study
after study shows the importance of various nutrients and how they can
benefit certain conditions. However, doctors are largely unaware of
nutritional cures and follow the old mantra that a good diet generally
provides all necessary nutrition.

Carole is an idiot.

Glasshouse

2015-11-08 14:35:49 UTC

On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 01:28:52 +1100, A little knowledge

Post by A little knowledge
But yet it can be shown that mainstream medical schools have been
largly funded by Rockefeller money in return for teaching
pharmaceutical medicine.

"Carole has never come across a conspiracy theory too bizarre, too
inconsistent with reality, or even too inconsistent with other
competing or contradicting theories for her not to believe it fully."
- re: Carole Hubbard, Highly Commended in the 2014 Millenium Awards.
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/caroleh.htm

Herb

2015-10-31 03:47:11 UTC

Carole is an idiot.

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2017-07-17 05:39:08 UTC

Post by Mary Wolstenholme
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.
Mary

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Post by Bob Officer
Has anybody tried myrrh or coconut or lavender oil for candida.
Topically or orally.
Mary

Mary save you self some grief. The use of essential oils is most likely a
great scam built upon fallacies and exaggerated claims.

Read this great article and seek some real medical care by a real doctor.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/02/02/essential-oils-a-perfect-example-of-alternative-medicine-exaggeration/
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Re: myths about statins. Group: misc.health.alternative (Member)
kaye wrote: > Herb wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 22:31:58 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> And what new skills have you learned in ...
10/31/15 by Bob Officer - 29 posts by 9 authors - 3 views
Re: Candida: Oils. Group: misc.health.alternative (Member)
Lu wrote: > On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 23:27:06 -0400, Bob Officer wrote > (in article < ***@news.alt.net>): > >> Lu wrote: >>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 ...
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Re: Multi-ethnic "Star Wars" and Abrams criticized. Group: rec.arts.movies.current-films
Your Name wrote: > In article <***@loclanet.com>, Invid Fan > wrote: >> In article , hislop >> wrote: >>> On 28/10/2015 2:01 PM, Invid ...
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Re: The true power of entertainment: Americans desensitized to slavery. Group: rec.arts.tv
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Re: Loopy. Group: uk.rec.sheds
JonG wrote: > I am not meaning to be argumentative just for the sake of it, Oh go on. It's been a dull day.
10/31/15 by Robert Harvey - 118 posts by 20 authors - 18 views
Re: How others see the Shed (was: Re: How to turn-on unicode for nn ?) Group: uk.rec.sheds
Richard Robinson wrote: > Conversation, basically. Yep >> Politcisans get short thrift > > I'm inclined to suspect that this is what gives rise to much of ...
10/31/15 by Robert Harvey - 55 posts by 14 authors - 21 views
Re: science based medicine. Group: misc.health.alternative (Member)
Anon <*@.*> wrote: > On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 23:45:41 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer > wrote: > >> Anon <*@.*> wrote: >>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:08:44 ...
10/31/15 by Bob Officer - 43 posts by 8 authors - 5 views
Re: Caancer and Antioxidants! Group: misc.health.alternative (Member)
Anon <*@.*> wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:39:56 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer > wrote: > >> Anon <*@.*> wrote: >>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 23:57:16 ...
10/31/15 by Bob Officer - 45 posts by 12 authors - 4 views
[OT] iPhone 6S. Group: it.sport.calcio.milan
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10/31/15 by Milansheva - 11 posts by 7 authors - 123 views
Re: canone in bolletta si dovrebbe fare questo. Group: it.hobby.fai-da-te
den wrote: > escludendo il fatto che non andrebbe pagato visto che fanno pubblicita > > > si dovrebbe fare questo: > il canone deve essere 120euro, ...
10/31/15 by papungo pipopango - 43 posts by 22 authors - 133 views
Re: [IT] newstap e scaricozzo. Group: it.comp.console
Pse wrote: > Hondy wrote: >> Sia eternal che fcku > > Prova diesel.cu.mi.it (ti devi iscrivere), a me pare che vada piuttosto > bene in termini di velocita' ...
10/31/15 by Hondy - 9 posts by 5 authors - 10 views
Re: peccato. Group: it.sport.calcio.torino
Doorman wrote: > Il 31/10/2015 19:55, AlexBi ha scritto: >> >> >> Fanculo >> Fino al 90esimo potevamo dire che il pareggio ci stava stretto... Poi ci ...
10/31/15 by AlexBi - 6 posts by 4 authors - 51 views
Re: primo tempo. Group: it.sport.calcio.torino
mauro wrote: > Il 31/10/2015 18:52, AlexBi ha scritto: >> Uhm... A parte per il gol non hanno fatto molto più di noi > > oltre a non farsi togliere il pallone ...
10/31/15 by AlexBi - 3 posts by 2 authors - 25 views
Re: Eccolo il derby. Group: it.sport.calcio.torino
Doorman wrote: > Il 31/10/2015 18:53, AlexBi ha scritto: >> Trusco wrote: >>> Goal fantastico di Pogba ed ora proviamo a recuperare... >>> Solo che ...
10/31/15 by AlexBi - 10 posts by 6 authors - 43 views
Re: TNT's "The Last Ship" adds Elizabeth Rohm. Group: rec.arts.tv
Rhino wrote: > On 2015-10-30 6:22 PM, David wrote: ...
10/31/15 by BTR1701 - 16 posts by 11 authors - 32 views
Re: NBC attempts to sweep debate debacle under a rug. Group: rec.arts.tv
Obveeus wrote: > > > On 10/30/2015 3:45 PM, Robin Miller wrote: >> BTR1701 wrote: >>> Obveeus wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/30/2015 1:46 PM, Robin ...
10/31/15 by BTR1701 - 25 posts by 9 authors - 45 views
Re: And so it begins... Group: rec.arts.tv
moviePig wrote: > On 10/30/2015 7:50 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >> >> ...the first salvo in the endless bleating cry of "sexxxxiiisssm!" in store >> for us over ...
10/31/15 by BTR1701 - 10 posts by 6 authors - 27 views
Re: [OT] Apple TV 4. Group: it.comp.console
IL GIUDICE DI DIO wrote: > Il 31/10/2015 14:06, Hondy ha scritto: >> IL GIUDICE DI DIO wrote: >>> Il 31/10/2015 13:58, Hondy ha scritto: >>>> IL ...
10/31/15 by Hondy - 85 posts by 19 authors - 141 views
Re: Sitting & Waiting & Thinking. Group: free.uk.btinternet.chatter.refugees
Gareth wrote: > Here I am in the hospital X-ray waiting room, waiting to go in > for my ultrasound scan. > > I have been thinking of Val all day and ...
10/31/15 by AriesVal - 6 posts by 5 authors - 2 views
Re: 15 indvandrere har vundet over Dansk Folkeparti i retten. Group: dk.politik
SAThomsen wrote: > On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 12:22:14 +0200, Jan Kronsell wrote: > >>> >>> Hvis et udsagn beviseligt er sandt, så kan man da aldrig ...
10/31/15 by TomL - 9 posts by 7 authors - 1 view

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Post by Mary Wolstenholme
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Topically or orally.
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